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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:47 AM
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GOVERNMENT’S ‘INTERNET2’ SEEN AS NEXT ‘NET BATTLEFIELD
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 11:50 AM by NVMojo
I hate to know that the Chimp was talking about something in REALITY during the Presidential debates but it appears he was. Sorry for the Dec. 10 date. I meant to post this yesterday but got interrupted.



SPECIAL TO FREE-MARKET NEWS NETWORK, DEC. 10 - You didn’t know the government was working on a “new’ Internet? Actually, it’s already being tested in the defense department and a number of universities, but it’s so thoroughly redesigned it might as well have been built from scratch. And it’s so complicated it has been compared to the effort to put a man on the moon.

It’s called variously “IPv6” (the current ‘Net protocol is known as IPv4), “Mission Moonv6” and “Internet2.” Details have long been available to the ‘Net community, but the status and use of the IPv6 protocol has not yet seemingly penetrated the general consciousness of the on-line population. That may change as wider implementation looms and various power players attempt to sort out their differences, and cement advantageous positions in advance of Internet2.

Mission Moonv6 – Ipv6 - is going to be sold to the public by virtue of its “bells and whistles,” its speed, ease of use and the availability of private computer identifiers - static Internet Protocol (IP) addresses, a kind of phone number available to each and every individual computer - that will vastly increase the possibility and practicality of customized ‘Net services.

Sounds good – but it’s this last point that causes trouble. The current Internet was not built with the idea of every machine in the world using static IP addresses. Most computers aren’t individually identifiable unless the user makes a special effort. In fact, businesses charge extra fees for consumers to use static IP addresses. All that will change with the next-generation Internet, which is being built so that each user can, and probably will, receive his or her own static IP address.

more...

http://www.freemarketnews.com/portfolio/index.php

Today the story is the top link, middle page, I could get a seperate link for it after opening it up.

I am going to try and see if this one works, just in case ...

http://www.freemarketnews.com/nview.php?nseq=4
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:51 AM
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1. There goes the last shred of our freedom of information.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 11:51 AM by neweurope
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:54 AM
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2. yep, we might as well be walking around nude ....
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:56 AM
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3. what happens if they build it - but no many comes?
Reverse field of dreams scenario - where is the incentive for folks to "switch"?
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:05 PM
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5. They'll sell it, I have no doubt. They're going to sell the idea
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 12:05 PM by neweurope
of having RFD-chips implanted under the skin, too. The population will stand in line in order to get them. It will be so convenient. No more lugging around of cards etc.

I'm very afraid.

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:06 PM
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6. Monstrous bandwidth
It'll be like interactive TV, and then some. And you know what a shiny bauble TV is to most people.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:23 PM
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8. my guess is that they will have to force it via congress
like they did with digital vs analogue tv sets. In that case, for some reason, they didn't want to rely on the sacred market forces...
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:37 PM
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9. I don't think they'll have to force it
Want to use the spiff features of WindowsXYZ? Smooth motion HIDef videophone? Join your buddies in a realtime Doom6 fragfest? View all 6 camera angles for your fave reality show? Access your financial/medical/job/life history in a blink from a remote server?

They'll make it irresistable. And necessary, if you want to interact with anyone else -- sorry, online MasterCard access requires Windows2008 and a 500meg connection. Visit our local affiliate, open M-W between 8 thirty and 9 am.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:56 AM
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4. IPv6 has been around a number of years and for the most part
need. We are running out of IP numbers. There are only 4,294,967,296 (call it 4 billion) ip address under V4 (without using submasks which some companies do use). A lot of these are "reserved" by companies already.

And no Bush does not understand this, LOL, he is not that smart.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:12 PM
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7. then that means he's just a little "parrot"
and I wonder what they will do to get the die-hards off "internet1"? Even more vicious spyware or something worse?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:08 PM
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10. This is hysterical babble.
Yes, it's coming, but you have no privacy on the net now, unless
you use an anonymous proxy server, and this will not change that
at all. They know your phone number too, so what?
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:22 PM
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12. In my opinion we can't get hysterical enough. Why would they do it if
they have no reason? And their reasons MUST be sinister, or do you think anything they do could be for our GOOD?

By the way we just had that switch analogue/digital TV also... And I do not like my thoughts.
:scared:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:32 PM
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13. There is a reason, it just isn't this one.
We need to stand up for our rights, not run around babbling in
fear at chimera and ghosts. Let them watch, screw them.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:24 PM
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18. Now THAT I agree with - stand up! :)
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Guarionex Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:11 PM
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11. I'd like to keep my dynamic IP...thank you very much!
otherwise, any posts I put anywhere on the net dissenting to the government would be traced back to my computer and I could be blaclisted...

Don't trust the government...if Internet 2 static IPs are implemented, I'm posting all my DU and dissenting stuff on public libraries...

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:33 PM
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14. They can trace you now. nt
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:37 PM
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15. Scariest sentence in the article? It's this one:
"...the end result is an opportunity for government and corporate America to use IPv6 to track a limitless number of activities by Internet users."
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:59 PM
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16. The idiots cann't even get an election right...
... or maybe they think they did.
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:11 PM
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17. IPv666
a computer in every home and a digital angel required to interact with it. this will be a good idea since restrictions on travel will make it impossible for slaves to leave designated areas for grocery shopping, banking, innoculations,etc..
every type of content will be allowed, with various levels of filtering presets (depending on your productivity). even liberals will come to worship chimpface, saying "what can we do about it now?" then the u.s. deservedly gets nuked all 2 hell by rusia. amen.



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