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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:25 PM
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About 800 Colo. Beef Packers to Lose Jobs
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/financial_markets/10402035.htm

GREELEY, Colo. - About 800 workers at the Swift & Co. meat packing plant here will lose their jobs just a few days before Christmas.

The layoffs take effect on Dec. 20, 11 days before the expiration of a contract that had Swift processing cattle from three ConAgra Foods Inc. feedlots. ConAgra, one of the nation's largest food companies, sold the lots earlier this year to Smithfield Foods Co. of Smithfield, Va.

"Those lots supplied about 40 percent of the cattle we processed at the plant," Swift spokesman Jim Herlihy said.

Swift, the largest employer in Greeley, anticipated 1,100 layoffs when it first announced changes to its meat production two months ago. Still, the layoffs will be one of the worst hits to Greeley's labor market in two decades.

"I have been preparing myself by saving my last few paychecks because I have to support my mom and my brother until I get a new job if I lost this one," said plant worker Raymond Villalobos, 25. "We're also going to celebrate Christmas in a modest way."

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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:28 PM
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1. God! Where will the jobs be in 20 years?---We will become a nation
of emigrants,thanks to big business.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:46 PM
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6. Food jobs
may be outsourced. Have most of our food imported because of profit margins. Then the people will loose even more power. He who controls the food supply controls the people.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:13 AM
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11. Two words: Soylent Green
:scared:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:29 PM
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2. Consequences
A Red County in a Red State.

These people (at least those who voted for Bush) need to learn their lesson and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Oh well, maybe their local Republican Party will come and help.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:17 PM
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27. "...chickens are coming home to roost." No pun intended?
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 01:18 PM by KansDem
To an out-of-work beef packer, that may be good news! ;)
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:30 PM
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3. Red State getting its due
Sorry, my heart can no longer bleed for these people. I'm sorry for the ones who tried to oust the Chimperor, but I'm a full-fledged supporter of ending red state welfare. Bush voters will now reap what they've sown.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:24 PM
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9. Youre state was only this close to being red...
so perhaps I should hope you get blasted come the next deer hunt?

Just because a state is red don't mean that 100% of the people are. Id bet most of them voted Democrat.

Nice way to alienate every Red State Democrat.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:36 PM
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10. We know you are out there.
Don't listen to somepeoples ramblings. Unity is needed nationwide.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:21 AM
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13. Alienating Democrats is one of our most popular activities here!
Sure, it's very counterproductive, but constantly proclaiming one's own superiority to other people is just so doggone fun that we can't resist it!
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:45 AM
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16. Wishing my death?
Boy, now that's a real democratic value! Just about every state went half red. I'm well aware of that. Drastic times call for drastic measures and one might as well let the neo-cons do it to themselves. The ending of red state welfare fully relies on straight and narrow Dems to hold their lines in their communities to protect everyone.

Don't think I asked for anyone's death by my comments. Sorry you felt you needed to wish ill on me.

Thank God for blaze orange,huh?

Nor was I bashing Democrats by my comments. Think someone read into my post something that was not there.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:22 PM
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29. Who wished for your death?
Are you sure you responded to the right post?
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:51 PM
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31. I was responding to the lot of you
one of whom said something about wishing my death in a hunting accident up north. It was not you, QC, but you did mention that registering dissent with Democrats was not an appropriate action by me. My response was directed at 3 threaded comments, including yours, although you did make the comment about the hunting thing.

It's hard to tell in cyberspace what someone's emotions are and it registers pretty flat most of the time. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:18 PM
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21. Agreed. The red-state bashing is just plain stupid
People here who gloat over other people's lost jobs b/c they just happen to live in a red state -- now THAT'S being a "sore loser", and it certainly isn't what the Democratic Party should be about.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:56 AM
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18. I don't think welfare should be ended in any State
There are people out there who really need it. That's rude.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:14 PM
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26. Not what's meant
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 01:14 PM by sandnsea
red state welfare. Red states receive more federal money than they put in. Then want to tell Blue states their economic ideas are better. This is from 2003, but it's close to the same now.

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:08 PM
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28. and it should also be noted
that Colorado is NOT one of the red states that gets back more than it puts in.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:31 PM
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4. Oh snaps
That fucking sucks :(
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:44 PM
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5. Chimpanzee voters get their rewards. n/t
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:10 PM
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7. Pity they don't have any Canadian beef to process
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:20 PM
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8. my sympathies to the Kerry voters.
FU to the Bush voters.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:20 AM
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12. Swift & Co - 16% (D), 84% (R) / Smithfield Foods - 15% (D), 85% (R)
Fuck 'em if they didn't know they were working for fascist farts.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:14 PM
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20. Where did you get those figures? (n/t)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:52 PM
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30. http://www.opensecrets.org/
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:44 PM
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25. it's not like there's a heck of a lot of work to find in Greeley
the only other industry is agriculture, and there's not much going on this time of year. The majority of people who work in the packing plants are Latino, and those that vote, vote Democratic. Not that it helps much - since that area of the state is overwhelminfly Republican.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:28 AM
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14. How is Smithfield going to keep up production?
Lots of this is happening. Smithfield has expanded into products other than ham, and Tyson has expanded into pork and beef. Other than gaining comtrol of the market, are they going to expand their work force?

My husband is a meat cutter who works for a large chain of supermarkets in the SE. He's been talking about this for a long time. The products from these companies come into the supermarket already cut and packaged. All you need is a part time person to put it out in the case. This is the way most supermarkets are moving so they don't have to employ meat cutters any more.

I'm sure the people at the packing houses aren't going to be making a lot of $$, but I have to believe their number of employees are going to have to expand.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:22 PM
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22. Packing houses are doing fine
All of my cattle are sold locally to individual buyers, Then taken to packing houses to be processed. It's cheaper than buying at the Market. You just need a big freezer, to hold all the meat. Some family's go in together and split the meat.
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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:51 AM
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15. For the Bush voters...eat your bibles
for the Kerry voters, sorry for your loss.
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Sputnik Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:45 AM
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17. "Value added" meat?

This paragraph caught my attention:

"Some employees could be rehired within 18 months, based on their union contract. Up to 200 employees may be retained based on seniority to train employees working a new second shift at the plant that will produce new 'value added' meat products. Such products, which require more processing, sell for three or four times that of traditionally boxed beef.


So, America needs more expensive beef?

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:27 PM
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23. They mean beef "products" - processed meat with crap added to it
It's the American way. Take food and adulterate it with as much crap as possible to reduce the nutrition to the bare minimum, then sell it for four times as much as the original food in its natural state would have cost. Convince people that they just have to have "Lunchables" through marketing.

I don't mean to criticize anybody's job. We all have to work. I'm just pointing out how our entire culture in the U.S. is based on adding money every step of the way, instead of being satisfied with the basics.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:06 PM
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19. Four giant corporations
control 85% of the meatpacking business. Astronomical worker injury rates, lines moving so fast that the animals are skinned alive, $6 an hour for workers, no OSHA oversight, union busting, abused and powerless immigrant work force, no health insurance in one of the country's most dangerous jobs, filthy deplorable conditions as bad as depicted in 1906 by Sinclair... and it gets worse every year.
Until this industry is regulated properly, nothing will change.
People who vote for deregulation, ie vote Republican, have nothing to whine about.
The meatpacking corporations are nearly 100% Republican in their donations.
Let the townspeople and workers register their complaints with the Republican Party.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:28 PM
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24. This deregulation started under Reagan
and people still worship the ground he walked on. Insane.
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