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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:46 PM
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Nine U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=6004e6d7187ffa56



Nine U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq
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Big News Network.com Monday 13th December, 2004

Eight U.S. Marines with the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force have been killed while conducting separate security operations in Anbar province, Iraq, which takes in Fallujah.

The deaths occurred on the weekend. For security reasons, the Marines provided no further information about the attacks.

Military officials in Baghdad meantime reported that a Task Force Baghdad soldier died from wounds sustained following an improvised-explosive-device attack on a patrol in northern Baghdad on Saturday, bringing the weekend death toll to nine.

more...

This is getting bloodier and bloodier!!!
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Liberal Grant WI Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:48 PM
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1. Sad..
theres no reason why we are even over there!! im so sick of the god damn war!! if kerry was in office he would have a plan for the peace or at least be working on it unlike Bush who keeps soliders there by extending their tour of duty.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:48 PM
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2. Crap!!!!
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indianablue Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:50 PM
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3. not breaking news...
this story was out yesterday and this morning..I know its sad but just adds to the confusion..this news has been posted many times today.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:53 PM
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4. For political reasons, the Marines provided no further information
For security reasons, yeah, right. What total, unmitigated bullsh*t.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:14 PM
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5. More people die in traffic accidents...
that's the republican response from my family...Soldiers signed up to fight and risk the chance of getting killed.

Bytheway, my stepson will be home tomorrow from Iraq. He was on the JFK carrier. Has been assigned to 4th Iraq duty in February. He worships bush and Limpballs so more people die in traffic accidents...etc.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:23 PM
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6. They may have signed up voluntarily but
that does not make this war a just war or the deaths necessary.

I've lost a relationship with a woman who supports her college age son so he can race cars and have fun. She doesn't want him in Iraq. She said there are many kids "willing" to go over there for whatever reason (they can't get jobs or afford college).

Nor does she want to hear anything about the war. She is upper middle class where money is not that much of a problem. She just pretends all is well in this country and the world. Yes, she's Republican. She still supports a boycott against France.

I try now to completely keep away from her.
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messyca Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:37 PM
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7. Why do the numbers keep fluctuating?
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:41 PM by messyca
Last night on my MSN home page it said 8 marines had been killed, this morning they changed it to 7. Now 9? It makes me wonder if it might be more. ...just checked MSN again and it reports the number is up to 10, in the past 3 days.
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:46 PM
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9. Some of the poor bastards were probably clinging to life,
but didn't make it.
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messyca Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:50 PM
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10. That is what I assumed...
but the number went down not up.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:42 PM
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8. And the senseless deaths continue.
A little nitpick: the person who wrote the headline was wrong. Nine MARINES died, not nine soldiers. Nitpick over.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:51 PM
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11. Marines Do NOT consider themselves soldiers!!! Respect that.
As I've posted before I have a marine nephew in Iraq. Before he left, I asked him how he liked being a "soldier". He tersely responded that he was not a soldier, he is a marine.

These marines deserve our respect. Call them what they are, marines.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:11 AM
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13. You *were* agreeing with me
and just reiterating my point, right?

I said that because I know soldiers and THEY are soldiers. Marines are Marines, airmen are airmen and.....seamen (??) are seamen (that is what they call squids, right?).

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:28 AM
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16. Yes, I'm agreeing with you.
They are all of our "troops" but they each have their own identification.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 AM
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17. They are dead either way, marines or soldiers
Sometimes I think these inter-service rivalries within the U.S. military just add to some strange military mystique, and therefore lend psychological support to the entire mental machinery of war. I suppose that won't be a popular opinion.

I will elaborate just a bit. These debates about whether they died as marines or soldiers cloud the important point, which is that they died as U.S. citizens in altogether the wrong country, for altogether the wrong reason, serving as pawns of an altogether immoral administration. If there is an afterlife where people get the opportunity to review their life, I would expect these people would be thinking more along these lines, than what branch of the service they died in.

I think the important distinctions are:
- first, between a moral and immoral war,
- secondly, between combatants and a civilians.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:51 PM
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12. Dupe
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:58 PM by Erika
As I've posted before I have a marine nephew in Iraq. Before he left, I asked him how he liked being a "soldier". He tersely responded that he was not a soldier, he is a marine.

These marines deserve our respect. Call them what they are, marines.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:29 AM
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14. One from NW Ohio, Army, killed Sunday
http://www.nbc24.com/Global/story.asp?S=2687619&nav=1aI4U9iz

Ohio Soldier Killed while on Patrol in Iraq

snip:
DEFIANCE, Ohio (AP) - The mother of a northwest Ohio soldier says her son has been killed in Iraq. Le'Ann Ramsey says her son, 19-year-old Private First Class Josh Ramsey of Defiance, was shot and killed yesterday afternoon while on patrol.


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:25 AM
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15. Army Soldiers Also Deserve Our Respect
19 years old. When will America wake up?
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:48 AM
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18. It wont stop until the US citizens say "STOP"
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