Federal Agency Disputes (The) Pill's Benefits

[Khephra]

Federal officials Wednesday backed away from the findings of two major studies on birth control pills, saying the research was flawed and that a new analysis shows there is no evidence that oral contraceptives cut the risk of heart disease.

The research, presented at a medical meeting in October, created a stir because it was from the nation's largest women's health study and found that women on the pill had lower risks of heart disease and no increased risk of breast cancer. That was contrary to what many previous studies had found.

But Dr. Barbara Alving of the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which funds and oversees the women's health study, said the work by researchers from Wayne State University in Detroit had not been reviewed by the study's leaders or the government before it was presented.

A new analysis by senior statisticians determined that the heart findings were flawed and that the breast cancer findings now also are suspect.

http://www.newsday.com/news/health/wire/sns-ap-the-pill,0,4486524.story?coll=sns-ap-health-headlines

[cornermouse]

1. Baby steps towards eliminating birth control.

Just watch and see.

[DemBones DemBones]

8. Take it easy. All this is saying is that a study that

claimed to show birth control pills may be good for women's hearts is flawed. There have been many studies of birth control pills over the past forty-odd years; some have shown them to have positive health effects, others have them to have negative health effects.

In the Seventies, feminists often argued against use of the pill because of allegations of it causing strokes and heart attacks.

[Dem2theMax]

10. We know what it 'says.' We're just counting on the consistency of this

morally bankrupt administration. Gotta think like them so we can plan ahead. Have I mentioned lately that I'm going :crazy:?

[DemBones DemBones]

15. Vigilance is great, and necessary. I just don't want to

overreact to ordinary news, which is how I see this. YMMV.

[Mandate My Ass]

12. No why don't you *take it easy?*

In previous posts you've made the absurd and patently false accusations that the pill is an abortifacient and that its widespread use has caused an upswing in women mutilating their babies. You'd get right on board with any study that found fault with the pill because you are quite obviously biased against it. Get real.:eyes:

[DemBones DemBones]

14. I've never made any such claims. The pill is not

intended as an abortefacient though there is some evidence that it may, rarely, cause early spontaneous abortion of embryos conceived while the mother is "on the pill." I would have to have a lot more evidence of a lot more spontaneoua abortions caused by the pill before I'd change my mind that the pill is an effective contraceptive that's safe for most women. I'd support the pill for any woman who wanted to use it and was one of the early users myself.

I am opposed to abortion, euthanasia, the death penalty, and war, also murder, but not to women and not to contraception.

Women mutilating their children because of the pill? Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about there.

:shrug:

If you read my post again, I merely pointed out that the report was simply saying that previously reported "good news" of some health benefit of the pill (apart from its effectiveness as a contraceptive) has been found to result from a flawed study. That doesn't mean the pill is now "bad" for women.

I have plenty of paranoia about some people in high places these days but I don't think they want to outlaw contraceptives -- or abortion, for that matter. They'll talk anti-abortion and pro-family talk to solidify their right-wing Christian base, just as Leo Strauss would tell them to, but they have no use for a population increase in the U.S.

[cornermouse]

21. You're wrong.

There are at least two senators presently in office who have gone on public record as opposing all forms of birth control. One from Oklahoma, the other I seem to associate with Pennsylvania.

[Dem2theMax]

2. Boy, what does this say about me and this country?

When I read the title of the thread, I immediately thought that the report was going to tell us that birth control pills do not prevent pregnancy -- and that they were going to be taken off the market.
I mean, I wouldn't put it past * and his house of ill repute (read 'RW fundies') to do something like that.

I think I need a vacation. Somewhere FAR away like Europe.
Think I'll stay for at least the next four years.

[Khephra]

3. Don't feel so bad

Those were my first thoughts as well.

[Dem2theMax]

4. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Probably both. Then go get drunk? Wanna join me?

Where ARE the aliens when you need them? I wanna go live on another planet! I'm going :crazy: here.

[Khephra]

5. Drink away...

I'll just have a errrr...smoke or two.

;-)

[Dem2theMax]

6. Hey, if I bring the munchies,

can I skip the drink and join you?

I hate hangovers. lol.

[Khephra]

7. Sure!

;-)

[DemBones DemBones]

9. I don't think the people in power now want a baby boom.

They'd rather import cheap labor, or outsource jobs. People having large families is not really part of their plans. I think they'd prefer a smaller population than we have now.

[Dem2theMax]

11. But didn't we get a 'list' a few weeks ago that said in part ,

'women, get pregnant and stay pregnant!'
Can't have single folk. We all have to marry. Can't have married folk without children. We all have to breed. Remember that post? LOL.

They may not want a baby boom, but they aren't doing anything to stop one. They are doing everything they can (so far) to stop us from NOT having children. Thank God I'm too old to 'breed.' Well, I'm not. But I say I am, so there, *.

They'll get that smaller population if they keep pissing off other countries. One big :nuke: is all it will take.

[DemBones DemBones]

16. Hmm, I must have missed that memo. You say we all

have to breed? Are they planning mandatory pregnancy tests? Mandatory reverse vasectomies? Uterine transplants for women who've had hysterectomies? No doubt they'll give free health care for pregnant women and young children - hahahahahha!

Seriously, I'm more concerned about them reducing the population by sending all the young, and many of the old, men off to endless war, and killing off the elderly and disabled by cutting their benefits and screwing up so we have no flu vaccines and other needed immunizations (like,say, smallpox.) SMALLPOX :scared:

[shrike]

19. I read an article about "deliberate childlessness" not long ago

How some Christian (read: fundie) groups are taking up the sword against married people who choose not to procreate -- it's against God's law. Married couples should accept "as many children as God gives them."

My husband made a point about large families -- if you have one, it severely limits your options. You HAVE to accept that lousy job, or work two or more, because your situation demands it.

[Mandate My Ass]

20. Exactly

When they're scrambling for crumbs, the engineered underclass is not likely to pick up the torches and pitchforks against their overlords.

It's all about preventing upward mobility and devaluing labor. Social stratification inhibits and even prevents liberal reform. And since there will be no social safety net, they don't care if people are starving or dying from lack of health care. What matters is that those who survive will fight for the opportunity to work for slave wages without benefits.

[BiggJawn]

13. I thought their prime function was to prevent pregnancy?

Here it comes, get ready, all you Handmaidens...

[wovenpaint]

17. Planting those seeds of "doubt"

To all the young people out there - keep vigilant!!!
It's easy to take reproductive rights for granted now, but things will be waaaaaaaaaaaaay different if things are turned around. A lot of hard work (understatement) went into obtaining these rights, so now it's your turn to keep up the fight.
Why, oh why, can't they attend to their OWN business -that's my mini rant for today.

[Mountainman]

18. You can't put your faith in anything this government says unless your a

fundie.

I would not believe anything Bushco's government says about medical issues because there right wing agenda is more important than scientific fact. I get my news from overseas and I will get my scientific information there too. I trust nothing this county says anymore.