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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:03 AM Original message |
Cahill Admits Underestimating (Swift Boat Veterans) Ads' Impact |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Out maneuvered by a bunch of rightwing sleazes |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. with the full cooperation of the corporate media |
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Born Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. "with the full cooperation of the corporate media" |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. they did expect it |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Yet, she has the courage so show her face and say, 'maybe' |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Whose hand is that? |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-04 04:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
94. So, what is she going to do to correct her error? Is she retiring... |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. I felt dismay |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Hell, I only did it once here that I remember |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
45. what's to fear in here. none of these people know where you live, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. Cahill and Bob Schrum are miserable failures. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. He wasn't surprised, but as Weld pointed out |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. Candidates should trust their political instincts rather than... |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. wouldn't have mattered |
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not fooled (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. Agree completely |
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Rockerdem (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
70. I concur - it was terror more than the Swift vets |
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UL_Approved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. You all missed the point |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Exactly! |
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necso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. Kerry was very badly advised -- |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:31 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Exactly |
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necso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. My feeling is that all these "handlers" |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. The organizer of this smear campaign is broke and begging for cash.... |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Do you mean O'Neill is broke? |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
12. "Perhaps we could have cut it off earlier." |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What I find telling about that statement is the "WE" |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. What I find telling, is that she should have read DU |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I agree with you |
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queenjane (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I have a theory |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Good take on it queenjane! |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Welcome to DU |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. That aligns well with popped into my head regarding elections in general |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. But , if you remember those of us who criticized his campaign were |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Amen, Koko. Amen. |
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queenjane (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. I winced all through the convention |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
75. Agreed on each & every point you've made. |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
79. but, but our dear friend dem strategist said political judo would work! |
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UL_Approved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-04 03:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
93. We didn't have a grip on reality |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
47. good point shrum has lost what, 8 in a row. damn how does he |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. ego.. plain and simple |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
51. Yep. They thought that by constantly hammering the pro-military |
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not fooled (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. yeah, but unfortunately... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
20. Cahill needs to spend some time in Central Florida. |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
22. Cahill was in over her head and |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
23. No way Swift Boat Liars would have gained traction w/o complicit media. |
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cybildisobedience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. key point |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. a complicit media is ALL THE MORE REASON it should have been addressed |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. Gee, Mary Beth |
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Bush was AWOL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
26. How could she underestimate? |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Because people like Cahill and Shrum live in a land called |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Now that's a term limit proposal I can support: |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
30. Underestimated what? That it would kill his national career in politics? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
32. paybacks are sweet (lott to bush) |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. Cahill was completely and utterly outclassed by Rove |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
34. I wrote to the dumb b**ch... |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
73. You and me, both. |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Yeah...and now |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. Raises hand |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
36. We aren't going to win again until we dump these consultants/strategists |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
37. I wonder if (gay) Kenny Mehlman was there as an official spokesman |
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mcgovern (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
39. We'll never get a flag-burner type elected president. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. welcome to DU, mcgovern |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. No, the people in this country are way to fond |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
43. I overestimated ... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
44. Now maybe the Bots |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
48. She was a wimp then, and even now her response is wimpy. (nt) |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
50. what does it tell you about the candidate who hired dunces like Cahill |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
52. Yea, she would like to think herself as that important |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
54. Gee, why didn't you just phone Susan Estrich? |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. yeah, I still get this Swiftboat shit thrown in my face ....TODAY! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
56. Enough of this media stuff |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I totally agree with what you're saying. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. How can you dance in a world you were not born into? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. That's the quote of the day, and deserves its own thread |
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KingChicken (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
57. I underestimated the stupidity of America.... |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
58. If Carville had been on board from the beginning... |
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Nameless (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
68. Some serious analysis of the "Shit Mouth Liars For Bush" 's impact |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. I think maybe their biggest area of impact |
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not fooled (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
69. we need a teevee channel... |
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sidpleasant (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. We might get one |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Oh God, that would be freakin' huge! |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
71. the media needs to be regulated again |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
74. Everyone in the United States except her knew they needed to respond |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
78. way to go mary beth, you're blind in one eye and deaf in the other |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
80. Banana Republicans: How the Right Wing Is Turning America... |
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CityDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
81. Good to hear that Mary Beth has pulled her head out |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
82. While we're discussing Cahill screwups, |
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CBHagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
83. But how do we get rid of the SBVFT and the others? |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
84. What she did was underestimate the stupidity of Merikans. |
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umtalal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
86. HAND RAISED. n/t |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
87. Raise your hand if you think this was typical of the Kerry campaign |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
89. She was a weak choice. But we should blame Kerry, not her. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Sorry, but I don't blame Kerry |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
90. sorry but she should have known better |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
91. This public regretting is exactly what Moore talks about |
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