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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:11 PM
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Giuliani spanks Bernie (Kerik)
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 05:12 PM by wicket
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/262645p-224880c.html

After days of embarrassing revelations, Rudy Giuliani scolded former NYPD commissioner Bernard Kerik yesterday, saying he has a "fair amount of explaining to do."

"I told him directly, 'There are are some significant mistakes you made here, even granted that only some of this is true,'" Giuliani said.

"And this is an aspect of Bernie's personality that needs to be changed. In this area - being careful - he is challenged. Really challenged."

The Daily News reported this week that Kerik broke city rules on accepting gifts, carried on two adulterous affairs in a secret apartment and buddied up to a city contractor with alleged mob ties.

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Guiliani is such a toad :eyes:
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:12 PM
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1. that's an insult
to toads
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TolstoyAndy Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:45 PM
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41. yeah, HypnoToad is pissed at you
:-)
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:13 PM
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2. Ah yes, the moral Rudy
who divorced his wife and married his mistress. There's them Republican Moral Values at work again.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:15 PM
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4. And married his first cousin in his 1st marriage, and had it annulled
n/t
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:16 PM
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7. And who's wife had to get a court order to get his g/f...
...out of the Governor's mansion.

Family values indeed.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:21 PM
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10. He married what he thought was his third cousin at the time of the-
marriage but then had it annulled when he FOUND OUT he had married his second cousin. Sure I believe that-----sure I do.



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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:02 PM
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22. Which wife was this?
Donna Hanover?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:39 PM
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37. There was one before Hanover named Regina Peruggi
He was married to his first wife (and cousin) from the late 1960's until the early 1980's.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:27 PM
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39. Wife # 1----Donna was # 2 n/t
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 08:28 PM by candy
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:18 PM
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9. Don't forget, Rudy moved his mistress into the mayoral mansion.......
while he was still married.
Rudy and Bernie are two of a kind, Rudy is just trying to save his own ass.:eyes:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:33 PM
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12. If the truth was known, he probably gave him a pat on the back..
Rudy was probably worst than Bernie.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:39 PM
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15. He tried to move wife and children out and girlfriend in
But a Judge kicked the girlfriend and Rudy both out. Then Rudy moved in with a gay couple in mid-town.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:11 PM
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32. the Christian Right agrees with you
and would never back him as a result. I think he also roomed with two gay men when he moved out of Gracie mansion. I don't think Giuliani has ever argued he's morally righteous. He's a different kind of Republican than W or Falwell.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:19 PM
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33. New Yorker
WHICH mistress? WHICH wife?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:50 PM
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42. Giuliani divorced Donna Hanover,
his second wife with whom he had two children, to marry Judith Kaplan, with whom he was having a very public affair while still living in Gracie Mansion (NYC mayoral home) with his wife and children.
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:14 PM
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3. Bad Bernie, Bad Bernie!
:spank:
he probably enjoyed the spanking.:evilgrin:
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:01 PM
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60. More, More, More, Master!
I bet that's what Bernie says when the blinds are pulled!
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:16 PM
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5. me thinks bernie is bull dog on rudy's leash
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:16 PM
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6. Spare us your pseudo-consternation, Rudy. It really is nauseating.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:17 PM
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8. Oh Bullshit Rudy, You've known along...don't pretend otherwise...
He's pissed because he knows he's toast and there goes his political aspirations and all the $$$ he was going to make off Homeland Security being a consultant...

Bye bye Rudy :hi: ...as much as I hate the Bush administration, I got to say, they did right by ya!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:03 PM
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23. Yes, he's pissed because of that, and probably moreso because
it all just got found out.
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marc_the_dem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:06 AM
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54. oh yeah
good riddance!
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:26 PM
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11. Kerik is Rudy's "TAR" Baby.......Let us not FORGET.....
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:56 PM
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58. LOL
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:35 PM
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13. *HE* is challenged???
Look in the mirror, Rudi, you f***ing TOOL.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:36 PM
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14. Ghoulini was at Kerik's 1998 wedding with mob figures
He didn't say anything then.

Why was it alright with Rudy then, but not now?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:41 PM
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16. I call bullshit...Rudy's only pissed that Kerik got CAUGHT
He says it himself:

"And this is an aspect of Bernie's personality that needs to be changed. In this area - being careful - he is challenged. Really challenged."

He knew he was an ethically-challenged scumbag from the get-go.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:42 PM
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17. When Giuliani FIRES Bernie (Kerik)
You can wake me up.

:boring:
rocknation
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:43 PM
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18. Hoooooo Boy! This is gunna be fun
Ghouliani is an injured (political) animal. He'll try to eat Kerik's ass on live TV if it will save his own future.

I hope both these fucking stooges go down in flames.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:50 PM
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19. Paraphrasing Guiliani
"You fucking idiot. You got caught."
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:56 PM
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20. Hey, Rudy
you talkin to me?:bounce:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:01 PM
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21. "...only some of this is true"?
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 06:13 PM by calimary
Methinks Rudy-baby is trying to wash his hands of Kerik so they're nice 'n' clean by 2008...

Sorry, Rudy, this is gonna be your Monica Lewinski. It'll always be there in the background, hounding you forever.

I'd be pissed, too, if I saw my Oval Office dreams going up in smoke before my very eyes... especially when he was considered (by some) to be a shoo-in.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:06 PM
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24. he's other Monica should have been the firemen radios..
....and police radios that were not functioning on 9/11 because he never upgraded their equipment. That should be CRIMINAL!!!! :mad:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:44 PM
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30. I want to know what part Rudy doesn't think is true!!
AND I want to know WHEN rudy knew about these incidents.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:23 PM
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35. Monica?
Rudh already HAS SEVERAL Monica Lewinsky's. LITERALLY.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:38 PM
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46. Don't worry
BushCo has it covered. Jeb is waiting in the wings, clean as the ass of a two day old baby.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:13 PM
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50. Jeb? Clean?
With the smuggler wife and the criminal children? With the mistress' office down the hall?

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:11 AM
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55. Couldn't you just see Jebb getting sworn in with Noelle stand close by?
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:44 PM
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56. Um, I think its called irony
Ever heard of it?
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:59 PM
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59. that and the tape of Rudy blaming the troops for not guarding the 380 tons
of ammo at Al Qua Qua (sp.?) in Iraq. That was priceless too.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:09 PM
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25. "I told him directly, 'There are are some significant mistakes you made"
Boy Gouhliani, do you know how to spank somebody!
Come over here and I'll smack you silly and show you
how to discipline employees.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:20 PM
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27. MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!
:D
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:14 PM
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26. honor among theives
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 06:15 PM by GreenArrow
Never underestimate the uncanny ability of Republicans to project their own shortcomings on to everyone else.

Maybe if Rudy G had been "careful" he wouldn't have gotten caught with his pants down.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:25 PM
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28. He got caught
I'm sure Rudy and bushie both are only upset because Kerik got caught. they don't care what he really did.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:35 PM
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29. I suppose the "Vagina Monologue" continues
Sorry, just had to say that!:silly:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:10 PM
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31. Shouldn't Rudy be more CAREFUL in who he hires?
Just a thought.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:21 PM
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34. FUCK Guiliani -- AMERICAN HERO MY ASS
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:29 PM
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36. LOL. Almost thought this was another Kerik scandal.
As if compromising photos of Kerik and Giuliani in some rather awkward positions were found. x(

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:40 PM
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38. Arrognance and greed...
Both of these con Artists were so arrogant that they thought that their scummy pasts would remain buried. Their reach exceeded their greedy grasp.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:35 PM
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40. In this area - being careful - he is challenged. Really challenged."
So what a perfect choice to head Homeland Security, huh, Rudy? Where "being careful" about minor details such as terrorism and civil rights isn't any kind of important character trait??

Fucking imbecile.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:03 PM
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43. These three amigos, Bush, Giuliani, and Kerik were all
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 10:06 PM by KC21304
headed for the scrap heap of history when 9/11 happened. And instead of being blamed for their part in letting it happen they all suddenly became heroes for doing NOTHING more than any ordinary human being would have done, and then trading on this tragedy to boost their political ambitions. They are despicable. All of them.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:39 PM
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47. Uhu
Well said, KC21304
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:05 PM
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44. "even granted that only some of this is true"
I call bullshit.
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:25 PM
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45. This guy is like Bush without all the smart people hiding his FUps. nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:40 PM
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48. "And this is an aspect of Bernie's personality that needs to be changed."
He sounds like a Dr. Phil wannabe.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:51 PM
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49. I'm so hoping rudy runs for something
on a national level. apparentaly all new yorkers know he is a piece of sh*t and it would be hard to keep it out of the media. At least I think so. Run rudy run!
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:45 PM
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51.  DOI investigaton bypassed for Kerik
Department of Investigation was suppose to do a complete background check of Kerik, before he became police commissioner. That's standard procedure. For some reason, that was bypassed. Breaking story about it in NY tonite. Before Kerik took that post, he only filled in the short DOI forms and not honestly either, it turns out. Someone at the top had to give the word to bypass a full investigation. Has to be Rudy. No honor among thieves.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:00 AM
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52. Sheesh, the rules just never applied to him, eh?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:05 AM
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53. I hope Giuliani pisses Kerik royally and Kerik spills the beans
on Giuliani's dark secrets! Wouldn't that be a gas?
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:54 PM
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57. Isn't Kerik
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 08:00 PM by judaspriestess
the same dude that Guiliani so lovingly told after seeing the towers under attack
"thank God Bush is our President" as stated at the RNC
that's what you get Rudy for lying about saying such a thing.
KARMA bitches KARMA
d*ckwad
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