Yushchenko guards secret ingredient of his Agent Orange soup

[emad]

Times
From Jeremy Page, in Moscow



MEDICAL experts have identified the type of dioxin used to poison Ukraine’s opposition leader, Viktor Yushchenko, in a major breakthrough in his efforts to identify the culprit.

Mr Yushchenko has forbidden them from disclosing the results, to avoid influencing the re-run of his presidential run-off with the Prime Minister, Viktor Yanukovych, on December 26. Mr Yushchenko, a Western-leaning former central banker, said yesterday that his opponent was planning unspecified “provocations” that could jeopardise the vote.

He also said for the first time that he was sure he had been poisoned at a dinner with the head of the Ukrainian Security Service, Igor Smeshko, and his deputy, Volodymyr Satsyuk, on September 5, the night he fell ill.

Yesterday’s test results are expected to provide compelling evidence for his claim and further incriminate Mr Yanukovych’s Government and his powerful backers in Ukraine and in Russia. Mr Yushchenko’s supporters have suggested that Russia ordered the poisoning to prevent the opposition leader, who advocates joining the European Union and Nato, from winning the election.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-1406575,00.html

[Tinoire]

1. Here's more: Yushchenko 'given Agent Orange ingredient'

(More of the same really)

Yushchenko 'given Agent Orange ingredient'

Agencies
Friday December 17, 2004

A scientist analysing the compound used to poison Ukrainian opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko have determined that he was given TCDD, an ingredient of Agent Orange.

Though doctors say they do not know who had poisoned Mr Yushchenko in September, they said the substance had probably been added to his food, and that just a bit more would have killed him.

TCDD is the acronym for tetrachlorodibenzoparadioxin - the most harmful known dioxin. As a component of the herbicide Agent Orange, which the US military used to clear jungle during the Vietnam war, it caused a wide variety of health problems for US veterans and Vietnamese villagers.

(snip)

He was taken ill following a dinner with the head of Ukraine's state security services.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukraine/story/0,15569,1376188,00.html

[daleo]

2. Hmm... I wonder who might have plenty of Agent Orange kicking around

The U.S. military probably still has warehouses full of the stuff. The CIA would of course have access to it.

Although, other intelligence agencies could get their hands on it too. But why is Yushchenko playing coy about the source, if it points logically to the Russians or his political opponents? Maybe it points somewhere else.

[Tinoire]

3. Great minds thinking alike.... Baffling. but something stinks here n/t

[zann725]

4. Remember, everything is always backward from what it seems...

in this very Rove-ian world in which we live. So someone was poisoned, that we know. And someone claiming to be Yuschenko was the recipient of that poisoning. Although ironically, the result of this poisoning, is that it disfigured the recipient almost beyond recognition...if not outright killing him, that his features are so distorted now he could easily become someone else, and how would we know.

Also factor in the fact that his wife previously lived in the U.S., and worked in the State Dept. during Reagan Admin. Shortly after moving to Russia in mid-90's, she met and married Yuschenko.
Her presence could explain the West's interest in Yuschenko becoming President...despite Election Fraud.

[Igel]

8. Why see everything in polar opposites?

What, there's only the US and Russia in the world?

[Cheswick2.0]

5. here we go with the crazy conspiracy theories

because we all know Russian leadership is incapable of poisoning anyone, right?
It looks like Yushchenko to me and it seems clear that pro-russia agents tried to not only fix the election but kill the opposition.

Why is it so difficult for the people to believe that Ukrainian people, who have hated the Russians for decades, would want a pro-western government?

[Cooley Hurd]

6. But what if it's a case of "criss-cross?"

The Russian mob killed Nick Berg for the US govt (to take the heat off the Abu Ghraib scandal - I remember reports saying the "terrorists" who killed Berg spoke with a decidedly Russian accent), and we tried to kill Yushchenko as a favor to Putin...

:tinfoilhat:Throw Viktor from the Train?:tinfoilhat:

[Tinoire]

7. For the same reason it's so difficult for others

to form an opinion without CNN news first forming it for them.

Since when are asking questions and independent thought now called "crazy conspiracy theories"?

It's a pity one has to connect the dots in crayon to put a rest to these silly accusations of "consipracy theories". It's called INDEPENDENT, OPEN THOUGHT Cheswick so that when the facts finally line up you are open to processing the conclusion logically and factually regardless of it not fitting the government's propaganda.

Go do some reading on Yugoslavia, oil. Ukraine, oil. Soros. Yugoslavia, war. Soros. Russia vs the US, Soros, before tut tutting what you don't understand just because CNN hasn't told yet told you what to really think.

Eastern Europeans are not quite as fond of pro-Western governments as you imply. They watched in horror as Yeltsin sold the old Soviet Union down the river for a few cases of Western Cognac. Surely you're aware of that.

[zann725]

9. Thank you! Nearly all this Admin.'s "Truths" are 180 degree from Reality

How 'bout "The Clean Air Initiative" (which sanctions air pollution), the "Moral Majority" (which is neither), and the "Privatization of S.S." (which puts more SS funds into "Private" accts of the Powers-That-Be, than into "Private" accts for the people it allegedly will cover).

Come on, every time Scott McClellan speaks I find myself hanging onto the walls in the room...because of the SEVERE spin. Like the time he said: "The President likes 'open dialogue'...he encourages it. He welcomes different opinions." Oh yeah...

To not be somewhat tin-foil IS insane!

[whosinpower]

10. What confuses me somewhat

Is why use Dioxin? What was the intent? To kill him? Either they miscalulated on the prescription - or, it was intentional just to disfigure him....and then the question still becomes why? For obvious and clear reasons, just disfiguring him would gain him a HUGE following of sympathizers.

Seems to me if they wanted to kill him, they would of used a more effective and lethal poison - ricin or something....but hey - I am no assassin, so what do I know!!!!!!!!!!

[daleo]

11. I have wondered about that too

I would think if professional assassins want to kill you, they know how (especially Russian intelligence agents). So, it was either a sloppy amateur job, or the intent was to:
- gain sympathy for him (pro western forces did it).
or
- disable him so he couldn't campaign (pro Russian forces did it).

Who knows - both theories seem overly subtle.