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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:55 PM
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U.S. isn't winning against Iraqi insurgents, agencies warn: KR
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 09:58 PM by oldhat
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/10443261.htm

U.S. isn't winning against Iraqi insurgents, agencies warn

By Warren P. Strobel, John Walcott and Jonathan S. Landay
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the State Department have warned President Bush that the United States and its Iraqi allies aren't winning the battle against Iraqi insurgents who are trying to derail the country's Jan. 30 elections, according to administration officials.

The officials, who agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity because intelligence estimates are classified, said the battle in Iraq wasn't lost and that successful elections might yet be held next month.

But they said the warnings -including one delivered this week to Bush by CIA Director Porter Goss - indicated that U.S. forces hadn't been able to stop the insurgents' intimidation of Iraqi voters, candidates and others who want to participate in the elections.

"We don't have an answer to the intimidation," one senior official said.

Nor have the United States and interim Iraqi government been able to find any divisions they can exploit to divide and conquer the Sunni Muslim insurgency, the intelligence reports say.

The elections are key to U.S. strategy in Iraq, and Bush and his team have insisted that they proceed as scheduled.

The president and other top White House officials have steadfastly predicted that the insurgency will fail, even as they have acknowledged lately that violence is rising.

"The terrorists will do all they can to delay and disrupt free elections in Iraq, and they will fail," Bush told cheering Marines last week in Camp Pendleton, Calif.

But several of the officials said a vital effort to woo Sunnis, who held privileged status under Saddam Hussein and are now spearheading the insurgency, hasn't borne fruit...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:59 PM
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1. No shit. nt
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:01 PM
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2. no matter how many of them we have to kill.....
they WILL be free! I predict 55% of the votes on Jan 30 will goto the US puppet with the rest of the vote split pretty evenly between dead and wounded.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:08 PM
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3. Wonder if there will be anybody left alive in the country to appreciate
our version of "democracy" .
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:12 PM
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4. well...as my 9 year old would say....
DUH! Only a moron woud think otherwise. :crazy:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:16 PM
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5. And in other news, water is wet.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:23 PM
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8. Haitian proverb : to hide the truth is like trying to bury water
www.counterpunch.org/kelly12102004.html
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:18 PM
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6. Idiot bushies have their heads in the clouds.....
They use faith instead of reality, literaly relying on a "wing and a prayer".
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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:20 PM
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7. I think that's figurative.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:01 PM
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9. But, Robt. MacNamara says "There is a light @ the end of the tunnel"
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 01:02 PM by Ernesto
Whoops, that was "my" war. You know, that little quagmire that ALL our current chicken hawk "leaders" avoided.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:03 PM
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10. Oh, now there's a newsflash
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 01:04 PM by Solly Mack
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:15 PM
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11. the warnings -including one delivered this week to Bush by CIA Director
Porter Goss.

Ha! That's funny.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:29 PM
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12. "divide and conquer" = the GOP strategy against any majority
This is how totalitarian regimes have taken over since time immemorial.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:07 PM
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13. The only outcome more certain than the US Elections ..
Are the Iraqi Elections.

The Bushistas and the Neocons will not be humiliated by the election of an Islamic Theocracy.

No.. they will use the same techniques to steal the upcomming Jan elections in Iraq they used to steal the 2000, 2002 and 2004 elections here in the US.

Then, after they are done singing their own praises the insurgency will rise up and start a full fledged civil war. THEN.. we get the government Iraq is destined for, an Islamic Theocracy courtesy of the sacrifice of over 1300(and still counting US soldiers), and the mindless emperialism of the Bushistas.

It's inevitable. And it was avoidable.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:20 PM
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14. INTERESTING NEWS.............HUH!
excuse me I'm just visiting your planet..........:tinfoilhat:
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