Kerik e-mails to be turned over to investigators (Kerik's mob deals)

[Robbien]

BY RUSS BUETTNER

New York Daily News

NEW YORK - (KRT) - Former Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik is likely to face fresh questions about his conduct this week when e-mails are turned over to city investigators, the New York Daily News has learned.

The messages were sent by Kerik to Lawrence Ray, one of his closest friends and the best man at his 1998 wedding.

They could prove another headache for Kerik. The e-mails provided to The Daily News appear to show Kerik offering a company inside details of a city investigation into its mob links and advance notice of upcoming city contracts.

<snip>

Ray says that one e-mail suggests that Kerik planned to pass along inside information from a city investigation into Interstate. Another passage, Rays says, shows Kerik guiding him on how to help Interstate with the city's Trade Waste Commission.

In the e-mail Kerik suggested that Ray push a security firm that Interstate had just hired, Copstat, which was run by former NYPD officials.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/nation/10452848.htm

[Pachamama]

1. Bernie is so fucked-so is Rudy - guilt by association is a bitch, isn't it

:eyes:

[Robbien]

3. Ha! Guilliani is sweating

There is another story out today which says:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6733362/site/newsweek/

In a lengthy and candid interview with NEWSWEEK, Giuliani seemed to acknowledge that the whole episode has made him anxious about his business, which has thrived on his spotless reputation. Giuliani said repeatedly that Kerik's role in the firm is very limited, representing "less than 5 percent" of its business. He also said that Kerik's position was largely limited to their joint venture, Giuliani-Kerik. "He's not part of Giuliani Partners," the former mayor said. But at the firm's Web site, Kerik is described as a "Senior Vice President at Giuliani Partners."

Giuliani tries to explain that little detail away. But Ha, it is clear these two are buddies.

[Mike Niendorff]

9. Mission Accomplished

Guiluiani down, only McCain to go, then it's clear sailing for Jeb in 2008.


MDN

[zann725]

39. You forgot about Ahnnald!

n/t

[slay]

10. Hahahaha! BUSTED!!

From my POV that sums it up pretty fuckin well. Even Guiliani is runnin for the hills.

[radfringe]

19. "...less than 5%..."

gee...he wasn't all that involved....ummmm I didn't know him that well...errr...I only saw him once in awhile.....

---------- FEH

tap dancing to put some distance between Kerick and Rudy... wonder if bush* will say he never met Kerick or Rudy -- just like he doesn't know Ken Lay or Chabali

meanwhile -- during channel surfing last night, I caught a blather on FAUX news (yes, I actually paused the remote long enough to watch this little blather....then I threw up and 'moved-on')

It was about how the "press" racked Clinton over the coals for a personal indiscretion and how a politician's personal life should not be dragged through the mud unless it directly effects his ability to do his job. :eyes:

Then they went into how Kerick's personal life should not be dragged through the mud and as far as they are concerned it has no effect on his ability to do his job.... :eyes:

of course the mob connections, bribes and other dirty dealings weren't even mentioned

[Calliope]

33. I Knew

That somehow this was all Clinton"s fault!!

[itzamirakul]

6. God has a sense of humor...

Rudy was so cruel and disdainful of the rights of others during his "reign" in New York City and just when people had had their fill and were beginning to turn on him - 911 happened and he instantly became a hero. For what, I'll never know. He did nothing outstanding other than show up when that coward Bush went into hiding.

When people said, "Rudy led us. He told us what to do." Al Sharpton said, "He just did his job. We were all so jittery that we would have followed Bozo the Clown at that time."

The thing that should REALLY be investigated is that Rudy never turned in any of his administration records and papers when he left office. I mean absolutely not even one of them. All other Mayors of New York City have left their papers for the city's archives, to be studied, etc. Rudy took ALL of his with him and said he just wanted to have them categorized, etc. No one has seen or heard of those papers since.

And now, with Kerik being in such hot water, it is plain that Bernie did not think ahead like Rudy did. And perchance, once Kerik's papers are studied, Rudy might be implicated by more than just association.

Funny, isn't it that as close as the two men are, that Rudy never knew anything about Kerik's undercover dirty dealings. Yeah...right.

Now, Rudy supporters in NY are clamoring for the NY Daily News to shut up and leave the Kerik situation alone. Even Mayor Bloomberg has said, "enough is enough." Funny...I didn't hear a one of them say that about the Swift Boat Liars.

Yes, indeed. God really truly has a sense of humor.

[Robbien]

11. Enough is definitely not enough. Got a feeling we are only seeing

the tip of the iceberg.

And about Rudy & Kerik being buddies, Rudy's competitors are saying "The bread and butter of our business is doing background checks, and Rudy failed to do one on Kerik". I wasn't aware that Rudy's business was background checks. Somehow that fact seems to fit right into this whole mess.

[zann725]

40. Rudy never turned in his papers when he left?

That's a Bush, Sr. trick. I'm telling you this is all connected. This Kerik thing is gonna blow the whole thing open....9/11 and all.

And we couldn't have the cooperation of the media on something this large unless something REALLY BIG was going on behind the scenes. The media watchdogs wouldn't let it. This is NOT being done with Kkarl Rove's approval.

[slay]

2. Damn.. and this guy was supposed to be our Homeland Security chief?!?!

The most blatantly obvious fuck up by these creeps so far - or just a continuation of business as usual?

[vanboggie]

5. I don't know about that

I'd still rate * as the most blatantly obvious, but this guy could rate in the top 10 for sure.

[slay]

8. Yeah, seems like business as usual..

Hopefully it will go all over the news. Nanny problem my ass.

[zann725]

41. Maybe he was already Homeland Security(?) Chief-NY prior to 9/11?

n/t

[imenja]

4. So the nanny story was a ruse

This is the real reason he withdrew him name.

[NYC]

14. This is one of MANY reasons.

I hope you didn't miss the scandal about the cigarette kickback and Riker's Island.

[imenja]

16. I did miss those

How can anyone keep up with them all. One things for sure, he'll have no trouble getting a good book deal. Perhaps with Judith Regan?

[NYC]

17. Did you read about Judith Regan's necklace, cell phone, and

credit card?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49827-2004Dec8.html?sub%3DAR&sub=AR

...On the night of Nov. 28, 2001, crack homicide detectives fanned out all over New York City, one of them even going as far as New Jersey. In all, five detectives from the Manhattan South Homicide Task Force went to the homes of various suspects, fingerprinted some of them, interrogated all of them and told a few that they would have to take lie detector tests. The horrific crime? The police commissioner's friend was missing some items.

...Regan's items apparently went AWOL from a studio at Fox News Channel, where she also worked. They included a cell phone, a necklace and a credit card. All the items were later accounted for. The necklace was found at the bottom of her handbag. The credit card had been left behind at a drugstore. As for the phone, it was later found in a trash basket -- and it is my guess that it was the real reason for such measured panic. You never know what numbers might be in a cell phone.

And the Riker's cigarette scandal:


"He couldn't run the Rikers commissary without getting greedy and making a mess, in a jam," one correction veteran said. "Now he's gonna be in charge of the Department of Homeland Security? Let's just hope the terrorists don't decide to come back."

This former subordinate was referring to just one of many petty scandals that have hung over Kerik's career. When he ran Correction, nearly $1 million of tobacco-company rebates were diverted into an obscure foundation Kerik was president of. This was for cigarettes bought with taxpayer money and then sold at inflated prices to jail inmates. But this rebate money - would kickbacks be a better word? - got spent entirely outside the normal rules for public funds.

No one was criminally charged. But a whole rash of IRS rules were seemingly violated. One board member quit in protest when the foundation treasurer refused to provide him with financial reports. And no one has ever explained where all the money went.

From:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/politics/ny-nyhen034063947dec03,0,2450252.column

I'm not surprised you missed something. It really is difficult to keep up with a new scandal every hour.

[imenja]

47. You love this stuff. I'm starting to feel sorry for Bernie

Sure you don't have a subscription to the National Enquirer? :loveya:

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for poor Bernie. I believe there is a classism at work in the media backlash against him. Son of a prostitute, "what made him think he could rise to that level" I heard one reporter say. There is a sense of his not knowing his place, not staying where he belonged, in the gutters of New York. Kerick took kickbacks from mob businesses, Cheney from Halliburton. Somehow I think the corporate ties have been far more costly and dangerous for the American public.

Still, the stories are fascinating and it's hard to resist them. I'm looking forward to the movie myself.

Ultimately, the real bad guys in the story are the buffoons in the White House that didn't bother even a cursory vetting of their candidate for Homeland Security Director. It makes you wonder what else they've let get by. Alberto Gonzales was in charge of the Kerick background check. Wouldn't it be nice if this derailed his appointment?

[NYC]

48. Nouveau Riche.

Bush & Co. have had their money for years. Kerik is nouveau riche. I think that is why he is easily thrown to the wolves.

Yes, I am indeed enjoying this. First, I think he owes NYC money. I'd like it returned.

Second, who let this scandal ridden candidate through? Gonzales. Who chose Gonzales? Bush.

I see this as having the ability to be traced right up the line. At the very least, don't we see extremely poor judgment in staff selections? Doesn't that poor judgment go right to the White House?

I think Kerik has been abandoned because he is nouveau riche, but I think the trail can be followed up the line.

I fully agree that what Kerik has done, Cheney has done, but there has been no luck investigating Cheney. Kerik lacks the protection of the moneyed elite. I want any and all investigations.

You're kind hearted, but save your sympathy for someone who deserves it. This has nothing to do with Kerik's mother. This has to do with the nouveau riche thinking they can truly be admitted to the ivory tower of old money.

:hi:

[imenja]

50. Kerick terrorized Regan

I'm watching an issue of CNN's "Reliable Sources" I taped and they have a woman from the New York Post who says Kerick "terrorized" Judith Regan after they broke up. She says he called night and day, came by her home repeatedly, and even told her he was watching her daughter (or was it son?). You probably know this given your expertise on the subject, but I thought I'd mention it case you missed it.

[Robbien]

51. The man got kicked out of Saudi Arabia because

of his love of terrorizing those over whom he had power. Heavens, the Saudis who do not have an aversion to bullying thought Kerik was too big of a bully for their country.

I am also following this story very carefully hoping it will end up that Kerik has very little chance to obtain any kind of power ever again.

This is the man who was to have power over the security of each and every one of us!

[imenja]

52. he won't

Kerick's career is finished. The problem is the thugs that appointed and vetted him run the whole show.

[NYC]

53. I missed it.

We had a NYS judge who did the same thing after a breakup with his socialite girlfriend. Apparently called her 14 year old daughter, possibly threatened. (They didn't reveal any details relating to the daughter because of her age.) Anyway, he actually served time in prison.

The judge was, at the very core, guilty of "poor judgment", a terrible thing for a judge.

Interestingly, he came out of prison "reformed". Felt something needed to be done about the treatment of prisoners. Said they were treated like animals, and they should be treated like human beings and rehabilitated. I think his name was Wachtman.

I think poor judgment would also be a terrible thing for the director of Homeland Security. Too bad Judith Regan didn't file charges.

Edit: Thanks for telling me.

[imenja]

54. Post

You probably missed it because you don't read the New York Post. How can you consider yourself an educated person? :D

[NYC]

60. Thanks for the laugh.

:hi: Good one.

[slay]

7. Back on Dec 3rd, right wing propaganda paper LOVED Kerik - link:

Check out this fluff piece from The Washington Times. It says UPI - but there is NO WRITER listed.

Bush names Kerik homeland security pick

<snip>

Kerik was police commissioner on Sept. 11, 2001, when al-Qaida terrorists attacked New York and Washington and helped direct the city's rescue and response efforts.

Speaking in the Roosevelt Room at the White House, Kerik said the memory of that day, and the sacrifices made, were with him constantly. Speaking to first responders and others involved in homeland security, he added, "You have my respect ... and I look forward to joining with you to protect the nation we all love."

more:
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041203-100818-6461r.htm

[NYC]

13. On Dec. 3rd, NY Newsday called Kerik a "time bomb".

Same day, totally different news:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/politics/ny-nyhen034063947dec03,0,2450252.column

Kerik nomination is a ticking time bomb

Campaign bodyguard to Rudy Giuliani.

Errand boy for the Saudi royal family.

... White House sources were saying last night that Kerik, the scandal-scarred former commissioner of the New York Correction and Police departments, will be named today to take Tom Ridge's job as head of homeland security.

... Let this be a warning from someone who's followed the man's ladder-climbing career: He's a personal and professional time bomb the Bushies will learn to regret. Don't say I didn't warn you, guys!

[slay]

15. Same day, totally different news:

Bad week for the republicans huh? Kerik, Rumsfeld, Giuliani goin down in flames. Arnie saying the party should more more toward the left. Bill Moyers exposes the right wing propaganda machine on PBS. Wonder what's next?

[Robbien]

18. That Newsday writer did a follow-up "I hate to say I told you so ... but I

told you so"
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/politics/ny-hen12,0,1923843.column

he closes the article with this:

But a tangled personal life and all the questions about his career are what really did Kerik in. Everywhere you looked around him was a new pile of stink.

A daughter he'd abandoned in Korea. A lawsuit over a subordinate he'd allegedly taken a shine to at the Correction Department. A swirl of ugly stories about his dating life.

There was that $6-million stock bonanza from a stun-gun company he got without investing a cent. There was nearly $1 million in public tobacco rebates funneled into a foundation he ran. There were city ethics penalties for assigning on-duty police detectives to research his autobiography. There were homicide detectives turned into a personal lost-and-found squad the night his publisher's cell phone disappeared.

Oh, the stuff just kept coming. The personal bankruptcy. The unexplained withdrawal from Iraq.

Given all of it, if this were me or you, wouldn't we want to blame the nanny?

So this writer, Henican, who has been following Kerik's career for a long time, even he thinks the nanny story is pretty convenient.

[NYC]

23. Yes, I read that, and Henican is not the only one at Newsday

writing about Kerik.

So far, I would say Newsday is the best source on the Kerik scandal, though other papers have had good reports.

There's a new scandal every minute. :)

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. Errand boy for the Saudi Royal family?

Gee, I'd love to here more about that part. Funny how no one has gone beyond that one little sentence yet.

You wouldn't by chance know anymore about that one? It just might tie him back to BushCo and that would be worthwhile.

[NYC]

24. Yes, there's more.

Fortunately, there was so much Kerik information I couldn't read it all. I started bookmarking things. Some of them I deleted, but enough remain.

This link lists a lot, but I don't see the Saudi details here:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/dec2004/keri-d04.shtml

He worked for a Saudi hospital in security. Essentially, what he did was work for a director of the hospital who was keeping tabs on women in whom he took an interest. I read the story at a few different sites.

...He spent two years in Saudi Arabia as a contract military employee, then returned to New Jersey and joined the Passaic County sheriff's department, becoming warden of the county jail.

While in Saudi Arabia, he applied to the NYPD but never received a reply. With a flourish characteristic of many of his actions, he wrote a letter of complaint to then mayor Ed Koch. An application was sent forthwith...

...Kerik joined the Army, spent time as a military policeman in Korea and was later with the 18th Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, N.C., where he trained Special Forces personnel.

Soon after, he went to work for the House of Saud, performing various security assignments for the Saudi Royal family...

This is not what I originally read, but it's the best I can find right now:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Dec2004/Ireland1211.htm

...He signed on to head up the Saudi Royal family's security, and this princelings' bodyguard fled that job when it was revealed he'd been playing sex cop, and investigating the bed movements of the American personnel staffing a Saudi hospital on behalf of the hospital's randy Saudi administrator with a thing for nurses...

I'm sorry I can't find the actual interviews (brief) with hospital workers. The news articles are out there. I have read them. In at least one, Kerik was asked about a man who was fired for consuming alcohol, and he said something about finding it difficult because of the different moral attitudes re alcohol.

I forgot: Apparently he left his Saudi security job because he got into a physical altercation with a Saudi security employee.

[luaneryder]

26. Wonder if Kerik was the source for

".Kerik joined the Army, spent time as a military policeman in Korea and was later with the 18th Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, N.C., where he trained Special Forces personnel."

18th ABN and Special Ops are two different commands and this quote makes no sense to me. Sounds like Kerik wanted to make it sound impressive that he "trained" SF troops. How does one sift thru the myriad lies of this mans life?

[DoYouEverWonder]

27. That's a good one

If he lied about his military service?

Got any more info on that one?

Plus wasn't it Fort Bragg Special Forces that were at Tora Bora? Where Osama got that free helicopter ride out? I wonder if Bernie was around?

[luaneryder]

30. It'd be interesting to find out

Each SF group is focused on a specific part of the world. I think it'd be either 7th or 5th (HQ's used to be at Ft Bragg) that would have been in Tora Bora if their mission has not changed since I was in. An 18th ABN MP training SF troops just doesn't sound plausible; maybe traffic control or something minor. I'd like to see his DD 214 or other evidence to back up that claim.

[NYC]

25. Saudi job.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/13/1457224

...The Washington Post reports that nine employees of the hospital Kerik worked at providing security in Saudi Arabia accused him of using his policing powers to pursue the personal agenda of his immediate boss...

(I think I had read the interviews at the Washington Post.)


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45175-2004Dec7.html

Kerik's Surveillance Activity in Saudi Arabia Is Disputed (Dec. 6th)

...nine former employees of the hospital have said that Kerik and his colleagues were carrying out the private agenda of the hospital's administrator, Nizar Feteih, and that the surveillance was intended to control people's private affairs. Feteih became embroiled in a scandal that centered in part on his use of the institution's security staff to track the private lives of several women with whom he was romantically involved, and men who came in contact with them, the ex-employees said.

Kerik, who as chief of investigations was considered third in command of the security staff, personally surveilled some employees and at times confronted them with the results, several former employees said. He also was a lead investigator in the controversial arrest, for drinking, of a physician who was detained and deported from Saudi Arabia for the crime.

Ex-employees also said the official Saudi investigation of Feteih and the security team was begun in response to hospital employees' complaints to Saudi officials of intimidation by Feteih and the security staff.

After medical personnel at the hospital complained to Saudi officials, the security team helped get one whistleblower jailed overnight, sought to put another into a Saudi mental hospital, and stepped up its surveillance of some members of the medical staff, several of the former hospital employees said. Six members of the hospital security staff, including Kerik, were fired and deported, and Feteih was sacked as hospital administrator after an investigation in 1984 by the Saudi secret police, they said.

[slay]

12. Bush has reached a point where only criminals will work for him

No wonder so many people jumped ship over there after the election.

[Vidar]

21. Amen to that.

[blueknight]

22. this means nothing,

it will all be swept under the rug. then bernie,rudy,and the like will just fade away, leaving the door open for jeb

[underpants]

28. That is the best summary I have heard/read yet

His pool of loyalty oath signers to choose from is getting smaller and smaller. Hell he is letting Condi baically have to take care of two jobs because there isn't anyone left to trust.

[snippy]

29. But "Bernie (is) superbly qualified."

Bernie Kerik is one of the most accomplished and effective leaders of law enforcement in America. . . . In every position, he has demonstrated a deep commitment to justice, a heart for the innocent, and a record of great success.

. . . Bernie is a dedicated, innovative reformer who insists on getting results. . . . His broad, practical, hands-on experience makes Bernie superbly qualified to lead the Department of Homeland Security.

. . .

My nominee to succeed Secretary Ridge has the background and the passion that are needed to protect our citizens.

. . .

Bernard Kerik has devoted his life to protecting his fellow citizens, and his example has led many others to take up that calling. He loves his country. He has gained the trust and admiration of millions.

Thank you for serving, Bernie, and congratulations.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/12/20041203-4.html

http://news.corporate.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20041203/03dec2004112356.html

[slay]

31. Straight from the Idiot's lips to the brainwashed ears of the masses

Republican: "The world is flat. How do I know? Because my glorious leader W. and Faux News say so!"

[livvy]

32. Does anyone find it interesting or suspicious with all this stuff?

I don't know. I certainly don't think much of Kerik. Seems like just another dishonest never do well to me. But...does it strike anyone odd that so much is coming out about him? I mean it's virtually imposible to get the MSM to report on any hard, cold negative facts about anyone in this mis-administration. So how come so much is being "allowed" out about Kerik? I mean the guy is being blasted with something new every day. How come he's not being "protected" like the rest of them? Don't get me wrong. I'm sure he deserves it, but it just strikes me odd the way it's going down. It makes me think there's more to the story. Why is *&co. so eager for him to go down? If they weren't, we wouldn't be hearing a thing. What am I missing?
Edit: In other words. They want him out of the way-quick. How come?

[AlCzervik]

35. yes i do, i think it's either 1 or 2 scenerios

Ok, 1st-This admin is so brazen that they think they can get away with anything, and lets be honest, they have up until this Kerik problem. Maybe they were sure that because of invoking Kerik and 9/11 all the time that he's slide through with no questions.

#2-Maybe Rove is trying to take Rudy out of the picture, his views on abortion and gay marriage won't sit well with many Bush voters and maybe KKKarl is trying to clear the field for the hard righties to run in 08.

I'm probably wrong on both counts but thats what i think.

[Robbien]

36. I can think of a third scenario

It is the holidays, no one is listening to the news. BushCo believes the Kerik and Rumsfeld stories will burn themselves out over the Christmas/News Years holidays. They will come back in January ignoring the whole brouhaha ready to start business as usual.

[0007]

59. 0H 0H, junior will come out in front and praise Rumsfeld

and pat Kerik on the ass at the same time.

[zann725]

42. I was thinking the same thing. Hard as it may be to believe...

perhaps Shrubco are losing control more than appears? I agree, the only way the MSM would continue handling this (and I DO believe the damage is going to encompass far more than Kerik)...is if someone or something quite powerful is approving it. Certainly NOT the Admin...since the damage will no doubt trace back to them.

Has to be someone or something NOT intimidated by the Admin. Perhaps 'shadow government,' or disgruntled CIA/FBI, or the Mob?
Gotta be 'big' though.

Unless it's "needs" to be a big story...to distract from the Election Fraud story...which may be even bigger and more far-reaching than we know.

[Tomee450]

61. Does make you wonder.

[Cooley Hurd]

34. A little background on Frank DiTommasino:

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/philly/news/local/9080732.htm

TRENTON, N.J. - A Passaic County construction company whose affiliates were denied contracts in New York because of alleged mob ties has received a recommendation for a license to do business in Atlantic City.

<snip>

New Jersey gaming officials and New York City's Business Integrity Commission say there were too many questionable contacts to conclude Frank and Peter DiTommaso did not know the kind of people they were hiring or with whom they were dealing.

The brothers own Interstate Industrial Corp. and Interstate Drywall Corp.

</snip>

Did Bernie also frequent the Bada Bing?;)

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

37. I hope he and Rudy ROT IN HELL. What a bunch of scumbags...

Of course, the fundy Xtian dumbass Repuke lemmings will find some way in insulate their perceived leaders and faux 9/11 heroes.

JB

[zann725]

38. And another email, let me guess...suggesting Kerik's

knowledge of 9/11 beforehand? Don't know why, but with this guy nothing is unbelievable...so something like that would not be at all suprising.

Besides, doesn't Kerik look a lot like "J. Gordon Liddy?" Coincidence, or omen?

[Solly Mack]

43. That puke has pissed someone off big time

either that or Kerik's unsavory actions are being used to get to Rue-dee. Rue-dee. Rue-dee. 2 birds with one stone.

Shame this won't bring more repukes down.

oh, and "where's the nanny?"

How's Pataki doing? He worried about the next election? Competition? Can he run for another term?

Does Mayor Bloomberg plan on running for Governor?

Are republicans eating their own?

Does someone want to make sure Giuliani is out of the picture?

[infusionman]

44. King George should be impeached...

For allowing this stuff to happen without doing the background checks first.

Could you imagine a man with ties to the mob being the director of Homeland security???

He would have every single one of us paying for protection. Heh, Heh!

[Massachusetts]

45. AND what is RUDOLPH HIDING.......

The Bu$hco circus continues, better than Green Acres and Gilligan's Island rolled into one.:wtf: :mad:

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!

[ally_sc]

58. yeah..that's the thing..what is st guliani

hiding, oh my...

[MADem]

46. The Kerik story

...makes the McGreevey-Golan Cipel scandal look like such teeny tiny potatoes by comparison!

McGreevey had the stones to RESIGN over that failure. Would that others might follow his lead....

[yellowcanine]

49. The noose is tightening on the peckerhead. Will Rudy get sucked

into the scandals when they begin to break? We can only hope.

[0007]

55. bttt

[Swamp Rat]

56. Good bye scumbag!

[ally_sc]

57. St Guliani...Had to know

all Bernie's connections...