US To Deploy New Missiles In S.Korea To Destroy WMD In N.Korea

[Tinoire]

US To Deploy New Missiles In S.Korea To Destroy WMD In N.Korea

WASHINGTON, Dec 20 Asia Pulse - The United States will deploy missiles to South Korea in 2005 with the aim of destroying underground facilities for weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in North Korea, a U.S. think tank said.

"The (U.S. President George W.) Bush administration plans to deploy a new set of missiles to South Korea next year that are designed to destroy the underground installations where the North Koreans are storing their WMDs," the Center for American Progress (CAP) said in a report carried on its Web site (http://www.americanprogress.org).

The report said such a "move will only make negotiations more difficult" as North Korea and other countries tended to accelerate their efforts to develop WMDs when they are threatened.

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http://au.news.yahoo.com/041220/3/s94u.html

http://au.news.yahoo.com/041220/3/s94u.html

[Dem2theMax]

1. The report said such a "move will only make negotiations more difficult."

Ya think?

Let's just get * boy to go over there with his six shooter and take care of it personally.

How long before the rest of the world has had enough? I wonder. I dread it and I wonder.

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[Zhade]

2. Robust nuclear earth penetrators...?

"Bunker busters", maybe?

Good find, Tinoire. Worrisome.

[daleo]

4. These things don't work anyway

According to an article in this month's Harpers.

No bomb can actually penetrate very far into the earth, without being destroyed in the process (especially hard rock), so they don't actually get down far enough to damage things that are buried relatively deep.

No bomb can actually penetrate very far into the earth, without being destroyed in the process (especially hard rock), so they throw up a mess of radioactive fallout.

So, they are not robust and they are not earth penetrators. But they are massive fallout generators.

P.S. I know the posters on this thread are savvy to these facts, just reiterating them for any readers who may not be acquainted with unbiased research on the topic.

[Zhade]

8. Yep, and good stuff to reiterate!

However, "stupid idea" and "thus not done" are unknown concepts to these guys!

[Tinoire]

10. I didn't know that. Thank you

Not a big fan of all these weapons. I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the insight.

[truth2power]

21. Thanks, Daleo. This is new to me.

Not everyone here is up to speed on various weapons systems. :-)

[daleo]

23. The story isn't linkable on their site yet, but this is the title

Buried Truths
Debunking the nuclear "bunker buster"
Benjamin Phelan

I think they may make it available on the web later, after the newsstand issues are no longer current - not sure though. I usually get the magazine, it is well worth the cost. It should also be at libraries. The article isn't too long or technical, but it gets the pertinent ideas across. I imagine some of the boosters of these weapons wouldn't agree with the author, though his case is persuasive.

[bhikkhu]

31. EMF effect?

if I have the term correct - a nuclear blast includes an emf wave that disables electronics, which are presumably abundant is missile systems (guidance, triggering, etc.). How effective this is at ground penetration I don't know...but I have read that one of the keys to a nuclear war is to launch before you are struck.

[FloridaPat]

3. I wonder if this is more BS from these clowns. Just like the

Missle Defense is suppose to protect us against N. Korea and Russia.

[lovuian]

5. Oh the trifecta Syria Iran and North Korea!!!

:nuke:

[teryang]

6. the main objective- defend defense contractor profits

this is why America softened anti-North Korean rhetoric. Now they can soft sell some multi-billion dollar aerospace subsidy. Ever seen the terrain in North Korea? Robust earth penetrator indeed. The ubiquitous rock formations of the Korean peninsula cannot be penetrated. It is the ultimate defense. Anyone who ever studied "bombing campaigns" during wartime knows it.

But the peninsula can be permanently radioactively contaminated and its' small agricultural base and water resources destroyed, rendering one of the most densely populated countries uninhabitable.

Defense contractor profits are the objective. Deployment of such weapons play right to Asian paranoia of American unlimited bombing policies demonstrated in the Korean conflict. The actual use of such weapons would result in war with mainland China.

[radar]

7. The Snake-Oil Salesmen strike again

From the makers of a bridge in brooklyn, oceanfront property in texas, ice-cream at the north-pole....

Comes this years MUST HAVE stocking stuffer!!!

[psychopomp]

9. Could lead to a Chernobyl-event?

The wind blows east from NK...towards northern Japan. Can't see that going over well in Tokyo.

http://www.wunderground.org/global/Region/AS/JetStream.html

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[Gemini Cat]

11. Oh hell

This will get ugly and China won't be pleased.

[HeeBGBz]

35. Maybe they want to piss off China

Brings em closer to Armegeddon. Fast food rapture.

[ThoughtCriminal]

12. I'm sure the targets will be carefully selected

with the same precision intelligence that knew exactly where Iraq was hiding WMDs there.

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[purduejake]

13. Uh, we don't have enough troops to pick fights.

[Erika]

14. Bush does away with Christ's Golden Rule again

How any Christian could have voted for W is beyond me.

[indepat]

16. Utterly mind-boggling

[gatorboy]

34. Onward Christian Soldiers.....

n/t

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[neweurope]

15. The bushistas seem to set things up to lead to exactly

the results the whole world warned against before the invasion of Iraq. I'm daily getting more scared. :scared:

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You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of the human race.(G.B.Shaw)

[0007]

17. Man I bet Jerry Falwel & Pat Robertson sleep like babies

upon knowing that junior is keeping all of god's children safe from those slant eyed pagan heathens, that hate Amerika because of its freedom. Even Benny Hine's is gonna do a free healing service next Halloween.



[w4rma]

18. Bye bye Japan if they actually fire those things. Are these whackos TRYING

to start a nuclear war?

[Rose Siding]

19. The bushies may have run the Iraq-play on us about NK wmd

If so, this is just a plan to spend with contributers. Here's a good article on what we really know about NK and how...

Summary: Two years ago, Washington accused Pyongyang of running a secret nuclear weapons program. But how much evidence was there to back up the charge? A review of the facts shows that the Bush administration misrepresented and distorted the data--while ignoring the one real threat North Korea actually poses.

Selig S. Harrison is Director of the Asia Program and Chairman of the Task Force on U.S. Korea Policy at the Center for International Policy. He is also a Senior Scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and the author of Korean Endgame.
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Much has been written about the North Korean nuclear danger, but one crucial issue has been ignored: just how much credible evidence is there to back up Washington's uranium accusation? Although it is now widely recognized that the Bush administration misrepresented and distorted the intelligence data it used to justify the invasion of Iraq, most observers have accepted at face value the assessments the administration has used to reverse the previously established U.S. policy toward North Korea.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050101faessay84109/selig-s-harrison/did-north-korea-cheat.html

[chenGOD]

27. And bye-bye Seoul....

Seoul (where I reside, along with my wife and all her family) goes up in "a sea of flames" if those things ever launch.
I joke all the time about heading down to the elctronics mart and doing some looting if there was ever war, but that's only a joke. If the reality of war ever happened here it would be devasting, and casualty rates would make Iraq look like a minor skirmish.

I hope Roh and his fragile coalition can grow enough of a spine to say no to this, and I hope enough people in the GNP (fascist opposition party) wisen up enough to realize that America no longer cares about the best interests of South Korea (whether they ever did is an entirely debatable matter, but one that shouldn't really be touched on in this thread).

Yes this is great for missile defense contractors, but we have no idea how the hard-liners in North Korea will react.

[bpilgrim]

32. Roh seems to have launched a campaign in recent months to persuade the US

Roh seems to have launched a campaign in recent months to persuade the United States and Japan that the only solution to the North Korean crisis is increased dialogue and engagement. In a November visit to Los Angeles, Roh urged Washington to reduce pressure on the regime and resolve the crisis through peaceful engagement. Roh reportedly suggested as much again in last week's talks with the Japanese prime minister.

Koizumi, however, is in no mood to entertain a more conciliatory approach to Pyongyang. The Japanese public is outraged by the fact that the regime handed over false remains of Megumi Yokota, who was abducted by North Korea in 1977 and whom Pyongyang claimed killed herself 10 years ago. There is now overwhelming approval in Japan for economic sanctions against the regime. In a Yomiuri Shimbun poll, 74 percent of the respondents approved of the sanctions. Whatever flexibility Tokyo once had toward Pyongyang has now all but petrified into an increasingly hard-line position.

Tokyo and Seoul are clearly on divergent paths that some speculate will lead to rocky bilateral relations in the future. Certainly, the prospect of increasingly contentious Japan-South Korean relations cannot be ruled out. But there is more common ground between Tokyo and Seoul than meets the eye, and it is likely that these commonalities will play a part in restraining bilateral tensions that may arise over North Korea.

more...
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20041225wo43.htm

North Korea threatens to shun N-talks
December 24, 2004 - 5:49PM

North Korea has threatened to stay away from six-nation talks urging it to abandon its nuclear weapons programs if Japan remains at the negotiating table.

The move comes after Tokyo's recent heightened discussions about sanctions against the communist nation in the wake of Japanese allegations that the North returned false remains of kidnapping victims abducted by the North Korean agents.

"It has become difficult for (the North) to sit down with Japan at the six-way talks as Japan acts without faith and morality," the North's Central Television Broadcasting Station said, according to a report on Friday by South Korea's Yonhap news agency.

The North has made similar threats before regarding Japan and its intention to discuss the sensitive abduction issue.

more...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Breaking-News/North-Korea-threatens-to-shun-Ntalks/2004/12/24/1103825079228.html?oneclick=true

peace

[chenGOD]

33. Well that's good news...

I sort of insulated myself against any local news since the last set of elections here, the mudslinging and childishness of Korean politicians makes the US Congress look mature.
I don't hold much hope for the talks with Koizuimi playing the populist and Bush playing the....total fucktard?

[bpilgrim]

36. i have family in japan and i am very worried

but hold out hope that both s. korea and japan go back to the recent 'sun-shine' (dialog/openness) policy with n. korea but admit it doesn't look good with the two you mentioned in power however koizumi who likes to play the populist must realize that * doesn't have much political capital left in asia.

thank GORE he 'INVENTED' the INTERNETs =)

peace to you and yours :hi:

[chenGOD]

37. Yeah I hope that Koizumi and the GNP here both realize that Bush

doesn't hold much political capital at all. Another game of "wait and see where Bush will fuck up next"

pooteewoot

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[DS1]

20. wow, I'm going to have to start dating men

:crazy:

[Gregorian]

22. Welcome to George's ball of confusion.

His world of perpetual war.

Missiles are money. War is profit.

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[gizmo1979]

24. Yeah that'll work

Idiots all idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zynx]

25. Most of North Korea's facilities can survive direct nuke attack

I doubt that whatever these are will do anything.

[Barkley]

26. What kinda missiles are we deploying? ballistic, cruise, SAM, etc.

What are the missiles' range and payload (WMD)?

Unfortunately, the article is too vague to have much meaning.

[Ian David]

28. If the missiles are that well hardened

I don't think we'd have much choice other than a total nuclear devestation of North Korea.

Our leadership is insane.

[ally_sc]

40. can we really afford financially to babysit this whole planet?

i can see the national deficit just churning and burning:wtf:

[chenGOD]

41. Yeah and who hired you guys anyways? eom

[manly]

29. more weapons of mass destruction

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
You got the country to swallow the Iraqi WMD, George, but do you think you can get them to swallow that same load twice? Sure, why not? They swallowed YOU twice. (Does that sound obscene. Well, it actually is.)

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[Sara Beverley]

30. Does Asia have anything like a "Monroe Doctrine?"

Why the hell can we place missiles anywhere and no other country can?
When is the world going to finally kick our asses out. Wherever we are there is fear and loathing.

[MRDU]

38. "US To Deploy WMD In S.Korea To Destroy WMD In N.Korea"

"The Road to Nuclear Security," Indeed.

[ally_sc]

39. why can't the usa...

mind her own business? happy holidays all..

[Deja Q]

49. WWNKD?

Now that they're seeing a bigger threat from who they see as an enemy with the rancid brain idea that "pre-emptive offense as a defense" is a good thing... you can bet they'll respond. Especially when they said the US doesn't have a monopoly on pre-emptive abilities.

So. Will NK bomb SK? How about India? Or China? Anywhere else where the US has a big presence yet is local? (Great idea corporate america, moving our jobs overseas for your cheap gain. Still, karma's a real ho of a bugger. O8) )

[ally_sc]

50. kim jong il is a nut job...

boom..

[Karenina]

51. No more

than your about-to-be duly installed *dauphin...