LAT: In GOP They Trust (beyond coasts, California trends Republican)

[DeepModem Mom]

In GOP They Trust

Murrieta is a city of affordable housing and deep conservatism -- a reminder that beyond the coasts, California is trending Republican.

By Maria L. La Ganga, Times Staff Writer


....Here in the stout heart of red California, voters snort with disdain when they hear that President Bush's strong victory caught America's Democrats by surprise. Not a single Murrieta precinct swung Sen. John Kerry's way in the bitterly fought 2004 election; in many parts of town, 70% or more of the electorate cast ballots for Bush — a strong show of red unity in one of America's bluest states....

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Boomtown California is Republican California, and this 13-year-old city of 77,661 could be its capital — bustling with earth-moving equipment and flag men, bristling with signs that promise "Coming Soon!" and "Starting in the $200,000's," Murrieta is all road construction and just-framed subdivisions and a parade route that navigates delicately through the confusion....

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Since 1992, the number of California counties with more registered Republicans than voters of any other party has nearly tripled, from 13 to 37 out of 58. That growth has shaped exurbs such as Murrieta, where "we're red. We're getting redder … the Democrats don't even bother to organize," said Shaun Bowler, professor of political science at UC Riverside....

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So where do the Blantons get their information? For Bruce, at least, the same place as many of his neighbors, men and women whose affordable homes are here in Murrieta but whose jobs are geographically undesirable. Trapped in their cars en route to the office, they listen to talk radio on their long commutes....


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-murrieta24dec24,0,3305579.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[robbedvoter]

1. Trends? I am sure I can find families that believe in Satan, the grim

reaper and other thingies. What makes a trend?

[The Zanti Regent]

26. This is the LIES ANGELES TIMES, folks!

Home of the racist bigot Michael Ramirez and this is also the paper that used to have "TRUE INDUSTRIAL FREEDOM" (i.e.no unions) on it's scab masthead!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. We have to find a way...

to combat their "push" propoganda and lies. Screw worrying about fairness doctrines.

[mazzarro]

3. Progressive have for so long discounted the cries and warnings of

online activists like DU'ers etc, who were warning about the lack of progressive/liberal voices in MSM. Now the seeds are begining to spring ever more pervasively and we have to play catch up with only AAR and few others in other token liberal stations. Progressives/liberals still lack presence in the BIG-league media comparable the Clear Channel, FAUX networks, MSRNC and CNN (Confused Non-news Network). This MUST be addressed and countered by all means available. We can no longer wait on Gore and his pathetic efforts to start a network that he does not want to work for progressives/liberals. We have to start a campaign to urge Soros and other progressive monied people to fund a TRUE PROGRESSIV/LIBERAL liberal NETWORK!

[bluestateguy]

4. Just read the article

And that town seems to be a better fit in Idaho than in California.

White-bread, white pickett fences, 125 mile commutes: I'll stick to living in the Blue Nation.

[xchrom]

5. oh yeah -- i remember reagan, wilson

the state has always been more conservative than it's portrayed.
and i'm not surprised by the numbers -- it simply draws more attention to the disease that is creeping across america.

[Tikki]

6. Two realities...

We have friends who moved across the coastal mountains to parts east.

Some in the 'white flight' movement.....other's to buy a bigger less expensive house.

Truth is: they plan, BY FAR, more trips to visit us 'out on the coast' then we do to visit them.
They can't sell their 'east' houses for enough money to return and 'replace' in size or quality with a home on or near the Coast.


Tikki

[joefree1]

15. Not to mention they're replacing small farms

Corporate mega farms and gated communities, welcome to Red California. Most California's live in or near the Cities and the Coast. And we're definitely Blue.


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[shanti]

19. and they're bringing their dem beliefs and values with them!

*hopefully*

[MGKrebs]

7. What I can't understand is,

from this and other recent stories, the claim is that red states are growing and blue states are shrinking. So who is moving? Are Repubs in blue states moving to more friendly areas? Do libs who move from say, PA to KY suddenly turn conservative? When conservatives move to liberal areas, it makes that area 'trend' conservative. So do libs not move? if they do, are the areas they move to 'trending' lib?

[salin]

8. not to mention - trending suggests majority

but I don't recall California going for Bush. Funny thing how a headline can create an image of a reality that, well, isn't reality.

[cascadiance]

9. GOPers still equate more geography equates to more people...

Therefore they see more outlying areas turning Republican, but like to conveniently ignore how cities become increasingly liberal as they grow their populations. Cities don't count as much because they don't take up as much land. Much like California doesn't count as much in the electoral college than any other state in terms of representation per individual.

City people are "lesser people" I guess!

[DeepModem Mom]

17. Hi, calipendence -- welcome to DU!

[cascadiance]

18. thanks!

I'll try to be on here when I can... I have to work like all of the rest of us good for nothing, welfare sniffing folks here though, so gotta go now for a half day!

[msongs]

10. Murrietta is just 45 miles from me and the white rascists moving there....

are fleeing formerly white republican Orange County (the one in the TV show) because of the rapidly increasing Latino/Mexican population (read immigrants) in Orange County.

The fact is that Orange County is now nearly 50-50 dems repubs and will be solidly dems soon.

funy how white racists are almost always christ-ians.

I know for a fact there is a small but dedicated group of Deaniacs and now DemocracyforAmerica people in Murrietta. the line in the article that says the dems do not even contest elections there is gonna change really soon :-)

Msongs
Riverside Ca

just 50 miles from booming traffic congested racially divided Murrietta

[yorkiemommie1]

11. all Laguna Beach

no Santa Ana, eh?

yorkiemommie in red torrance

[shanti]

yeah, lol

i grew up in santa ana, fled OC for sacramento in 1984, but not because of the immigrant influx. the traffic had become intolerable!! i like the political climate here better too.

[shanti]

dupe

[shanti]

20. dupe, sorry

[Piperay]

27. Hey neighbor

:hi: I'm in red Torrance too surrounded by obnoxiuos reds except for a blue neighbor right next door (he's a Brit but his wife is an American citizen and a voting Democrat). :-)

[DBoon]

12. They subject themselves to amazing privations

all in the interest of living in an all-white community.

Reminds me of a joke about eastern european peasants.

An eastern european peasant find a magic lantern in his field. Out pops a majical genie. Since this land is far from the genie's home, he can only grant the peasant one wish, not three.

He asks the peasant what one thing would he want more than anything. The peasant thinks for a minute.

Finally the peasant says, very definitively, "I want my neighbor's cow to die!"

[PROGRESSIVE1]

14. .

[JNelson6563]

13. I hope the Dems quit stupidly using CA as ATM

and do a little something to keep it in the blue column.

Julie

[VegasWolf]

16. GOP is convincing poor people that they are on their side. Dems too

stupid to craft message.

[mediaman007]

21. Its the "victim" mode: Republicans have been claiming to be

the victimized for more than 20 years. They have the Presidency, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, most governorships and state legislatures. They own the media. Yet, what do they whine about: the liberal media, Hollywood, liberal teachers, and the culture war.

They thrive on being the victim.

[girl gone mad]

22. Strong victory??

The revisionists march on..

[Moloch]

23. Republicans are such idiots...

From the article:
Sure, he's seen "Bowling for Columbine," Michael Moore's film on America's obsession with firearms. Sure, he acknowledges that the Columbine shooting was a tragedy, that kids shouldn't be able to take weapons into high schools and blow innocent classmates away.

"But when Michael Moore says we have to ban all guns, I find that personally insulting," Reiss said. "It's saying I was raised wrong. To tell me that because I own a gun I'm a criminal or wrong, that's insulting."
................

Where in BFC did Moore say to ban all guns? In fact, Moore makes the
point that there are plenty of guns in Canada and they don't have nearly all the gun violence that we have and if this asshat would have actually watched the movie, he would have known that.

Part of what made BFC a good movie is that Moore did not say to do anything and left it up to the viewer to decide the causes of violence in this country.

Conservatism is a mental illness. I give you exhibit B:

This devout Mormon couple, whose Boy Scout son Christopher marched on Veterans Day with his uniformed pals from Troop 524, will not see a movie that is rated R. They lump Whoopi Goldberg in with Dan Rather, the Dixie Chicks with CNN. They put Moore, the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times and most of Hollywood in the same bad grab bag of the biased and the out-of-touch.

They believe that the news industry is peopled with hard-core Democrats — even conservative Fox network, insisted an indignant Bruce Blanton. And they feel that the entertainment industry has coarsened this country's culture by shoving sex, violence and profanity in the faces of a defenseless public.

[yorkiemommie1]

25. they have talk/hate radio drumming in their ears

at least four hours a day, 5 days a week. they're brainwashed.

my husb. listens maybe a half hour a day and he's brainwashed so you can imagine what where these other people's minds are at. can't think for themselves and they bristle w/ righteous indignation should you critize their gods..rush, sean, bill o' reilly.

i wrote the LAtimes and suggested they all enlist.

[yorkiemommie1]

24. what a HUGE spread this was....pix and all

i forced myself to read every nauseating word of it. one thing that really stuck out was the prominence of talkhate radio. seems these redblooded patriots get their indoctrination (or two minutes of hate, if you read orwell ) whilst commuting.

i wonder what the recruitment statistics are for this area and i wonder how many of these good christians would support a return to the practice of stores closing in sundays?

i'd rather stay in my little old house here near the coast than have a huge thing out in freeperville.

as it is i have to venture to OC tomorrow. and i will wear my peace symbol pendant, amongst the 'xtians' who nevertheless see fit to sleep around. i hope somebody says something about gay marriage,or bush or something...it will give me an excuse to glance at my watch and say, gotta go!- Peace!

[Piperay]

28. Big fucking deal

they find some mid-sized city in a low populated county and want to use that as a red example. :eyes: I'll worry when the HUGE populations of Los Angeles and San Francisco go red and not before! x(

[daleo]

29. Maybe the smarter people are leaving for the coast

Leaving behind mostly Republicans.

[Mountainman]

30. My in-laws and wife use to live near Murrieta. I comes from white flight.

When my wife lived there, before I knew her, there were less than 200 people there and I-15 did not exist. Her family raised pigs and cattle and goats and some horses there.

All the construction is because people moving from Los Angeles and other places where the minorities outnumber the whites.

These people are not a trend. They brought their conservatism with them.

The last time we drove by there my wife cried. She said that all these people have done is bring L A with them.

[Dem2theMax]

31. Tell me about it. "when the I-15 did not exist." sigh.

The noise from the traffic drowns out your thoughts. I can remember when Murrieta was nothing but hills, trees and shrub grass. Now it's just one long piece of concrete, growing by the day. The houses and shopping centers go up faster than rabbits can breed. I live just south of the place. Used to be lovely there. Not anymore.

They had to shut down the freeway some months back due to a chemical spill. It was the most wonderful night here. You could actually hear the birds singing at sunset. The crickets chirped all night long. It was heaven. I went out for a walk at 2am, just to enjoy the peace and quiet. How I miss it being that way 24/7.

[Sara Beverley]

32. They have all received Limbauhodimies. Brain dead.

There is no hope for America. An ignorant elite is the new demon that will take us down.

[zann725]

33. This is SUCH a distortion. This is the L.A. Times...why on earth

are they trying to create the impression that California is turning Red??
Well maybe because Ahnnnald is now Governor, and is 're-districting' the State so that when Diebold fixes the election next time, they can make people (who read this article) believe that the election was fair, and that California is indeed now Red...not Blue!

Yeah, they're gonna need 4 years of this propaganda to convince people. Particularly since they can't use the "Dixiecrat" hype here.