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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:53 PM
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Yushchenko claims Ukraine victory | BBC
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 11:58 PM by DinoBoy
Yushchenko claims Ukraine victory


Mr Yushchenko hailed the start
of a "new political year"


Ukraine opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko has claimed victory in the re-run of the presidential election, as early results indicate a clear lead.

With 80% of the votes counted, Mr Yushchenko is 14 points ahead of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych.

He hailed a new era in Ukraine but the results could be challenged.

The original vote, won by Mr Yanukovych last month, was annulled due to fraud. Sunday's re-run was monitored by 12,000 international observers.

At about 0000 GMT, Mr Yushchenko declared: "I want to say this is a victory of the Ukrainian people, the Ukrainian nation. We were independent for 14 years, today we became free.

RESULTS SO FAR
Yushchenko: 55.1%
Yanukovych: 41.1%
Turnout: 77.3%
Source: Ukraine Central Election Commission, with 80% of votes counted

More at the BBC
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:55 PM
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1. Now he's not a fan of the west, is he?
Forgive me, I never stayed current... :-(
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:59 PM
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2. IIRC he was
Yanukovych was heavily backed by Putin, while Yushchenko wanted closer ties to the EU.
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podnoi Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:39 AM
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7. Not quite so simple.
Do some searching through the archives.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:56 AM
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11. I didn't say it was simple
I just said that Yushchenko wasn't anti-west.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:11 AM
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3. Here's a fascinating piece of info
What many Westerners do not realize, however, is when Mr. Yushchenko takes the seat of power, at his side will be a tough minded, savvy American-raised businesswoman. His wife, Kateryna Chumachenko Yushchenko, is the daughter of Ukrainian immigrants who grew up steeped in the traditions of her ancestral homeland.

Mrs. Yushchenko was raised in suburban Chicago as the daughter of an electrician and seamstress.

<snip>

In the late 1980s and early 1990s she worked in the human rights office of the U.S. State Department. She also worked for the first President Bush in the Treasury Department.



Here's the link, not that I enjoy quoting John Fund:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110006076
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MissBrooks Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:17 AM
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5. Wow....
I did not know that!

I knew he was more EU and the other guy was more Putin.
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podnoi Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:41 AM
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8. Amazing that is not discussed eh?
Nor the fact that Mrs Yuschenko is involved with conservative think tanks.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:20 AM
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:33 AM
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19. Considering.........
The two candidates and their support from the United States and Russia respectively, yes it matters. The Bush administration has repeatedly downplayed it's interest in this election, claiming to be relatively impartial whereas foreign critics have claimed that the Bush administration has done a great deal to influence this election on behalf of Mr. Yushenko.

The man's wife was raised and educated here in the States, and worked in the government under Bush 1. Perhaps that isn't a "smoking gun", but it is worthy of mentioning. Unless of course you'd rather have a detailed analysis of what Scott Peterson wore to his sentencing hearing and how it affected the judge. Hey, I guess news is all relative. Or something.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:36 AM
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:31 AM
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18. He was also backed to the tune of $65million from Bush
and I don't know how many millions from Soros. I heard as high as $100 million but haven't found a link.


Bush Adminstration Spent $65 Million to Help Opposition in Ukraine

December 10, 2004

By: Matt Kelley
Associated Press

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WASHINGTON - The Bush administration has spent more than $65 million in the past two years to aid political organizations in Ukraine, paying to bring opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko to meet U.S. leaders and helping to underwrite exit polls indicating he won last month's disputed runoff election.

(snip)

But officials acknowledge some of the money helped train groups and individuals opposed to the Russian-backed government candidate — people who now call themselves part of the Orange revolution.

For example, one group that got grants through U.S.-funded foundations is the Center for Political and Legal Reforms, whose Web site has a link to Yushchenko's home page under the heading "partners." Another project funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development brought a Center for Political and Legal Reforms official to Washington last year for a three-week training session on political advocacy.

(snip)
The four foundations involved included three funded by the U.S. government: The National Endowment for Democracy, which gets its money directly from Congress; the Eurasia Foundation, which gets money from the State Department, and the Renaissance Foundation, part of a network of charities funded by billionaire George Soros that gets money from the State Department. Other countries involved included Great Britain, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Canada, Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Grants from groups funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development also went to the International Center for Policy Studies, a think tank that includes Yushchenko on its supervisory board. The board also includes several current or former advisers to Kuchma, however.

IRI, Craner's Republican-backed group, used U.S. money to help Yushchenko arrange meetings with Vice President Dick Cheney , Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage and GOP leaders in Congress in February 2003.

(snip)

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=10108&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported



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(snip)

the U.S. government, through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), granted millions of dollars to the Poland-America-Ukraine Cooperation Initiative (PAUCI), which is administered by the U.S.-based Freedom House.

PAUCI then sent U.S. government funds to numerous Ukrainian non-governmental organizations (NGOs). This would be bad enough and would in itself constitute meddling in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation. But, what is worse is that many of these grantee organizations in Ukraine are blatantly in favor of presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko.

Consider the Ukrainian NGO International Center for Policy Studies. It is an organization funded by the U.S. government through PAUCI. On its Web site, we discover that this NGO was founded by George Soros' Open Society Institute. And further on we can see that Viktor Yushchenko himself sits on the advisory board!

(reluctant snip)

This May, the Virginia-based private management consultancy Development Associates, Inc., was awarded $100 million by the U.S. government "for strengthening national legislatures and other deliberative bodies worldwide." According to the organization's Web site, several million dollars from this went to Ukraine in advance of the elections.

(snip)

http://antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=4135
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THE ELECTION crisis in Ukraine highlighted once again how much the mainstream media reads straight from the White House script.

Still breathless from cheerleading the destruction of Falluja, the media fell right in line with the administration, portraying the standoff as a Cold War-style battle between a Russian-sponsored authoritarian, Viktor Yanukovich, and the Western-backed democrat, Viktor Yushchenko.

Journalists failed to mention that the supposed Moscow puppet, Yanukovich, did Bush’s bidding last year by dispatching Ukrainian troops to Iraq. The same newspapers that ignore or deride protesters in the U.S. enthused over mass demonstrations in Kiev staged by supporters of Yushchenko.

They dutifully repeated Bush’s pronouncement that the upcoming election rerun “ought to be free from any foreign influence." Someone at the White House forgot to tell Republican Sen. John McCain, who chairs the International Republican Institute, and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, his counterpart at the National Democratic Institute. Both outfits--which are part of the government-funded National Endowment for Democracy--were active in Ukraine supporting Yushchenko’s candidacy.

(snip)

There’s no doubt that supporters of the Russian-backed Yanukovich stole the November 21 runoff election. But for all his opposition imagery, Yushchenko is a status quo politician--which in Ukraine means being an insider with ties to superrich “oligarchs” like Yulia Tymoshenko, who became wealthy through corrupt privatization of state-owned industry following the collapse of the former USSR in 1991.

(snip)

http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-2/523/523_03_Ukraine.shtml
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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:11 AM
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4. KICK n/t
:kick:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:35 AM
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6. Also, in Romania, the challenger won as well. They too had a revote
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 12:36 AM by robbedvoter
Old story:

Call to scrap Romania poll result

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4055345.stm

Basescu says his fight is "to restore democracy"

Romania's opposition leader has called for the results of presidential and parliamentary elections to be annulled amid claims of voter fraud.

Traian Basescu, who heads the centre-right Justice and Truth Alliance, alleged that election authorities handed extra votes to his opponent.

With most votes counted, Mr Basescu's party trailed Adrian Nastase's Social Democrats by around 470,000 votes.

European election observers on Monday expressed concern over possible fraud.

They voted again, Basescu won, takes office,

Seems only in this country we aim low: recount instead of re-vote, and even that we apologize for. What worms we are!
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:45 AM
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9. This is shallow, I know...
But will the damage to his face from the poison ever go away?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:52 AM
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10. Will the damage of no real elections in this country will ever go away?
Nope, judging by those posts.



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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:59 AM
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12. From what I have been reading
IF it is indeed dioxin (and it probably is), his facial features will recover in 3-4 years. It looks like it's leathery, but aparently what we're seeing is intense oil creation in and on his skin. Like the acne to kill all acnes. I have not heard, but I'd imagine that this condition is terribly painful.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 01:05 AM
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13. Thank god! Great news for democracy and justice.
Great day for the Ukrainian people everywhere.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:00 AM
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14. YUSH CHENK OH! YUSH CHENK OH!
Good maybe now that the election's over, he can get a facial.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:23 AM
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23. Seems he's scheduled to go to Israel for cosmetic surgery and
liver complications from the poisoning.

What a horrible thing to have done to you! Hope they can really help him- especially for the internal damage.

Yushchenko to be treated in Israel
Poison victim will have plastic surgery at private facility

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Posted: December 21, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


Ukrainian presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko will have plastic surgery in Israel to correct scars and cysts that have disfigured his face as a result of poisoning.

Yushchenko is scheduled to travel to Israel after the repeat Ukrainian elections in late December, and has already been granted a visa, Moscow news agencies reported. Sources told Israel's Maariv daily Yushchenko aides have been in Israel to make advanced arrangements for his treatment at a private facility in Herzliya.

(snip)

Yushchenko must also be treated for liver problems and other ailments as a result of the poisoning, his doctor's said.

(snip)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42028

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PARIS Viktor Yushchenko has recovered enough from poisoning with a highly toxic chemical that, if elected, he should be able to serve as Ukraine's president, but he will need treatment for months if not years, his doctors and foreign experts said.

(snip)

He will need to take drugs to help his body get rid of the dioxin, which is normally deposited in the body's fat cells, and he will need close monitoring for cancers and abnormalities of fats in his blood - all aftereffects of the poisoning, Zimpfer added.

Yushchenko has recently consulted plastic surgeons in Israel, according to that country's press. But Zimpfer said he had strongly advised against surgery for now.

"Surgery could jeopardize his recovery because it is a trauma to the body in itself," he said. He added that Yushchenko's skin condition might well recur even if it could be surgically improved, since high levels of dioxin remain in his body.

In fact, scientists say they have virtually no experience with this type of dioxin poisoning, where the victim consumed a concentrated dose of TCDD.

(snip)

http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/26/news/grisly.html
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 07:02 AM
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25. I hope he recovers well....
Thank you Tinore.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:18 AM
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:23 AM
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17. sorry about your face let be a warning. USA can set you free if you want?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:48 AM
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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:01 AM
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24. Now the Ukrainians are REALLY laughing at us. "Look at what WE got done!
We DARE you to beat that!"

;)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:49 PM
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26. Romanians too . Apparently elsewhere, fraud is cause for a re-vote.
Only in the land of the free we ask: "Fraud? Hiw big? Bigger or smaller than a bread box?"
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