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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:46 AM Original message |
Vioxx. Celebrex. Now Aleve. What's a Patient to Think? |
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Krocksice (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'd say don't trust the FDA!!! |
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Elise (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Absolutely. |
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Scairp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. Naprosyn is different |
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ally_sc (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. well i guess asprin is the answer |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
81. naprosyn will burn a hole in your stomach, even if you take it |
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bluedonkey (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. stop |
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illflem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Americans are wimps |
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Elise (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Not nice. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 07:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Not everybody is a masochist. |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That I already do |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. you can have my arthritis, I'll keep the pain, but YOU deal with joints |
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infusionman (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. It's not just the pain... |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. Aspirin |
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Ms_Mary (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. My thoughts are that we have a punitive health care system |
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d.l.Green (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. "Health Care" label is deceptive |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. Unfortunately doctors are not trained |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. It is obvious, illflem, that you have never been in pain |
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illflem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. BS |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. You are still in no position to judge another's pain..... |
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illflem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Learn to read, that's why I said |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. Then you're an idiot. Pain is a positive feedback loop in the nervous |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
70. bravo for you |
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byronm (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. legalize mary j |
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realvirginian (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Exactly |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. My guess is that you have little experience with real pain. |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Or change your lifestyle... |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. Now that the drug companies pay the FDA, they can't be trusted. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. I have taken big doses of Naproxen for weeks on end for inflammation |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. I'm curious |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 07:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
82. Aspirin is also an anti-inflammatory drug |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. Big Pharma Knew |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Ten years is a good guideline? |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
62. If it comes as a generic, it has been out quite a while |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. I have been prescribed naproxen since 1982! |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Well, I took it for 20 years for neck and spinal injuries |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. Great...I just sucked down a couple |
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R Hickey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think Valium causes heart problems too, at least in me it does. |
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infusionman (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. You better get checked out. |
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Ronnie (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. My doctor tells me |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Yep. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Benzos strike the nervous system differently in everyone... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. Drugs are sometimes necessary for persons with chronic |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. If aspirin were discovered today it wouldn't pass FDA testing as safe |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
19. I'm on several prescription meds (insulin dependent diabetes, anemia, |
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Magginkat (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
21. What's a Patient to Think?? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Aspirin is a good drug |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. AMEN to you aspirin users! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
77. GINGER AND TUMERIC |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. i'm so glad aspirin works for you |
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Wilber_Stool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
24. And to think |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Wait until the aftereffects of Vigara and its ilk start popping up. |
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jukes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. ...and those that Mother gives you |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
27. No, you can't trust the FDA, but you can't trust the "science" media... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. But Aleve has been running commercials as an alternatvive to Vioxx! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
31. Codeine still works just fine |
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Mithras61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Codiene does work fine for pain, but... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I take a prescription NSAID for back problems and tennis elbow |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. NSAID... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Thanks for the recommendation |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. You need to take about 1200 mg of it a day (3 pills) x 2 months |
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Mithras61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Re: Glucosamine & Chondroitin |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Shark Cartridge... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
78. Do you realize how bad an idea |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I had a run-in with RA almost twenty years ago |
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shawn703 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm tired of the advertisements for these medications on television |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. Aleve had been linked to heart attacks |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
36. How does speeding up the FDA process equate to concealing trials? |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Highway Robbery!!! |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. By the way... |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Well all I can say is it's a good thing |
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d.l.Green (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Animal testing, huh? Hmmmm... |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. well when I start eating my crap for extra nutrients |
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realvirginian (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. I don't know what to think, but... |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. I think I'm going to avoid ALL NSAIDs including Motrin/Advil/Ibuprofen N/T |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
61. vaporize weed. |
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queenjane (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
67. Clinical Trials have limitations |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. Faith is merely the ability to take unproven trust in an unproven entity. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Not necessarily insanity, could simply be extreme stupidity. n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
74. The FDA is in bed with the Pharma companies. Screw the foks for profit. |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Yes and that's why they keep saying it's too "dangerous" to import |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
75. What else to expect form a 30 second commercial jingle filled with |
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stackhouse (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
80. whats wrong with Celebrex??? |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
83. I’ve had to take two aleve a day now for 5 years to stay off narcotics |
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