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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:04 PM
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Director of Analysis Branch at the C.I.A. Is Being Removed -NYT
WASHINGTON, Dec. 28 - The head of the Central Intelligence Agency's analytical branch is being forced to step down, former intelligence officials say, opening a major new chapter in a shakeup under Porter J. Goss, the agency's chief.

The official, Jami Miscik, the agency's deputy director for intelligence, told her subordinates on Tuesday afternoon of her plan to step down on Feb. 4. A former intelligence official said that Ms. Miscik was told before Christmas that Mr. Goss wanted to make a change and that "the decision to depart was not hers."

Ms. Miscik has headed analysis at the agency since 2002, a period in which prewar assessments of Iraq and its illicit weapons, which drew heavily on C.I.A. analysis, proved to be mistaken. Even before taking charge of the C.I.A., Mr. Goss, who was a congressman, and his closest associates had been openly critical of the directorate of intelligence, saying it suffered from poor leadership and was devoting too much effort to monitoring day-to-day developments rather than broad trends.

Ms. Miscik's departure is the latest in a series of high-level ousters that have prompted unease within the C.I.A. since Mr. Goss took over as director of central intelligence in September. Of the officials who worked as top deputies to Mr. Goss's predecessor, George J. Tenet, at least a half-dozen have been fired or have retired abruptly, including the agency's No. 2 and No. 3 officials. Much of the top tier of the agency's clandestine service is also gone.

http://nytimes.com/2004/12/29/national/29intel.html?hp&ex=1104296400&en=298bf1d6514365b4&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:23 PM
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1. Decapitation
... as an approach to improving intelligence is questionable. (On the other hand, if Smirk were decapitated he'd do fewer stupid and evil things.)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:36 PM
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2. AKA "You will only report what we tell you to report..."
If you don't play you, you get "retired".
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:38 PM
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3. They want more ANAL and less SIS.
:shrug:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:46 AM
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4. Duck!



NNNNobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!



Our chief weapon is suprise...
surprise and fear... fear and surprise....
Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....
Our THREE weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
Our FOUR...no... AMONGST our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as
fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:50 AM
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5. You called, sir?
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:14 PM
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15. But please don't forget the Comfy Chair!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:36 AM
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6. This is huge
Director of Analysis Branch!

Oh my.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:48 AM
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7. Bush is taking over all the Branches and putting in his Yes Men
I feel Mr.Goss is in for a rude awakening!!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:00 AM
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8. The formation of the KGB is beginning.
Within two years Amerika will be a Police State. The Dems will also approve of Gonzales as AG. Will a purge at the FBI be next?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 06:34 AM
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9. Well, WAS the CIA responsible for the failure of intelligence?
Here's an article from motherjones, about the fake intel unit set up inside Pentagon to cook data and present them as arguments for war:

The Lie Factory:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html

More:
The Misinformers
http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2003/04/we_352_01.html

Clueless in Langley
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/01/cia_langley.html

West Wing Pipe Dream
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/07/we_489_01.html

These are MoJo articles only, but there was info all over the net about how the administration was kicking out the CIA (and the military intel) to put their own people in charge.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:19 PM
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16. It was executive failure,...not intelligence failure,...
Of course, improvements in communications are necessary. Improvements are always necessary in a growing, changing environment.

However, the OSP (Rummy's baby) filtered and screened the intelligence to create what the neoCONimperialists wanted as the bottom line: an excuse to wage war in Iraq.

Now, intelligence will be further filtered and screened to provide the bases for all the neoCONimperialists bottom lines. It won't be pretty.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:56 PM
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21. Couldn't have been. Otherwise, why would Gee-Duhbya
have awarded Tenet the PMOF 2 weeks ago?

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:01 PM
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23. Pre-war CIA analysis said Iraq was no threat.
When it came down to Tenet confirming the Pentagon's intelligence, it was agree or go, so he agreed. Even in agreement, the CIA reports were filled with caveats, 'if such and such' 'OBL may be' 'Saddam could have'.

All the 'actionable intelligence' came from the pentagon, meaning from Chalabi and Iran, through Rummy.

I don't know what's scarier. That the WH knows the intelligence was cooked, or that it doesn't.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 04:54 PM
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28. Good question. Did you see the flow-chart of the intel office?
Here's a picture:

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:08 PM
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24. This paragraph sounds familiar -- from the 3rd link.
"Until that day, the agency had been strutting its stuff, suggesting in background briefings and off-the-record comments that the terrorists were on the run. It cited a steady decline in attacks, interpreting the prolonged silence as evidence of capitulation or fear, seemingly oblivious to the idea that the silence was that of a plan coming together."

This is exactly what worries me whenever I hear the repukes saying that *'s strategy is working because there haven't been any attacks on US soil since 9/11.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 07:36 AM
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10. bogus assertion of the NYT....
"a period in which prewar assesments of Iraq andikts illicit weapons, which drew heavily on CIA analysis..."

Er... read Karen Kiatowski who was in Fieth's outfit during this time.... problem was that the CIA analyses were too cautious, had too many caveats... so the WH/Pentagon created their own "boutique" in the Pentagon.

Guess this move will let bushco move their boutique directly into the CIA.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 07:41 AM
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11. I think they are clearing house to cover for just that
in addition to putting yes men into place they are getting rid of everyone who could tell the real story of the prewar intel.

Expect to hear "FORMER" stated loudly whenever these people are quoted with a "left the CIA" at the end implying that they are disgruntled and not a credible source.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 08:14 AM
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12. If/when the public starts to shake off its collective
cognative dissonance and open their eyes... then all bets are off in terms of successfully discrediting these folks.

Sadly we are far from that point.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:20 AM
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13. Feeling safe?
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:23 PM
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17. Safe? I fear this administration more than I fear Osama.

I see Osama as no more than a puppet of the administration. We all know he worked for CIA in the past, and I see no evidence that they ever cut him loose. Don't they say "No one retires from the CIA"?

I, wearing tin foil, believe that members of this administration are responsible for everything that has happened to us since Oklahoma City. I would be happy to be proved wrong, but with the MSM today being nothing but stenographers for the junta, the truth will never be revealed, at least not before the revolution. And that's what it will take to change the direction of the country.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:56 PM
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14. An Intelligence agency without intelligence.
Why worry about what is happening (reporting) if you are in a position to make it happen? Sounds like the CIA is taking the same government controlled route of the MSM.

This is the same group of thugs who latched on to the false yellow cake reports. Jami was probably in a position to know the truth.

I think we are seeing the end result of decades of planning so far everything must be going according to the plan. Eisenhower warned us when he left, this civil servant is not in a position to issue any warnings.
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Ufour20 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:23 PM
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18. What I don't understand....
is how Tennent got a medal and Condi got a promotion? These were the people that failed on 9/11 and the got a promotion and a medal, does that make sense? It just blows me away the asinine crap these people do.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:58 PM
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22. Yeah, it is enough to give ya brain cramps, isn't it?
(btw, hadn't seen your post when i mentioned tenet's pmof somewhere upthread - obviously a good point, imo)

And welcome to DU~
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:19 PM
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25. It's not about competence. It's about loyalty. n/t
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:41 PM
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19. Like CNN getting dumped
Just as Bushites favor FOX so too the typical bad user of Intel favors personal black bag gossipers like Chalabi, whose murky whispers can't be trusted and plays arcane double games in unreality. Real world Intel, facts and figures, real stuff on the ground as can be found by reading newspapers or train itineraries provide extremely important and reliable data which is not sexy enough for preconceived agendas.

Again with Hitler. That loser chose the black bag incompetents(had to shoot its chief, Admiral Canaris after the General's plot). Incompetent, inconsequential, disastrous AND double dealing, but they had real appeal to the robust dictator, the lover of enforced illusions. The real Intel from industrial intelligence that showed how the Russians moved all their factories to Siberia and would not be beaten...Well, forget it. Russia here we come!

Bush is even a more stupid and obstinate(et tu Cheney and stooges) in reshaping reality and expecting reports on progress in Wonderland, not facts on the ground.

I predict the hiring of spies will largely be for black bag unaccountable secret and private armies for the Bush agenda, NOT for actual intelligence gathering or analysis- much less the basis for real world decision making. If you join the CIA you are in for a ruder awakening than the National Guard. No one will ever know you even died in the line of Bush duty doing the same work as the grunts but with less infantry training and US support.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:47 PM
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20. Porter Goss, making the world safe, one CIA agent at a time. Doesn't
pay to disagree with the chimpanzee.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:37 PM
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26. Bushco is clearing house
AWOL is going to make the CIA his own little private gestapo. We need to contact our senators and reps to stop this purge.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:49 PM
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27. They have not been real effective lately have they? n/t
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