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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:53 AM
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NYT, pg1: It's About Aid and an Image (Bush perception: America first)
It's About Aid, and an Image
By DAVID E. SANGER

Published: December 30, 2004


CRAWFORD, Tex., Dec. 29 - As Asia suffers through a 9/11 of its own - a natural calamity instead of a man-made one, but at least 25 times more deadly - President Bush's response in coming weeks may well determine his success in repairing relations strained by three years of relentless American focus on terrorism.

It took 72 hours after the tsunamis washed away countless villages and tens of thousands of lives before Mr. Bush appeared in public to declare that the United States had the rudiments of a plan for addressing "loss and grief to the world that is beyond our comprehension." His aides said it took that long to understand the magnitude of the tragedy and to plan a recovery effort that must stretch from remote villages of Indonesia to the eastern coast of Africa.

But the aid effort that has now begun presents Mr. Bush with an opportunity to battle, with action rather than just words, the perception that took root in his first four years in office that he is all about America first....

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....perceptions set in a first term have a way of becoming the political canvas of the second. And America's response to this tragedy, some administration officials acknowledged, is crucial in places like Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, where the earthquake and tsunami first hit and where Islamic fundamentalism, never a political force during the cold war, is seeking to make inroads....

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To some degree, the war of perceptions has to do with whether the Asian nations believe Mr. Bush focuses on the tsunami tragedy with the same kind of energy he put in to making sure that other nations signed on to his counterterrorism agenda after Sept. 11. Just weeks after those attacks, Mr. Bush traveled to Shanghai for the annual summit of Asian leaders and made clear he would judge allies on the basis of how well they joined the fight. Among the first visitors to the Oval Office after the attack was Megawati Sukarnoputri, then Indonesia's president. She pledged to join the hunt for Al Qaeda operatives on her territory, and largely made good on the promise....

(The article includes a response by Senator Leahy, Democrat of Vermont: "I just about went through the roof when I heard them bragging about $35 million. We spend $35 million before breakfast in Iraq." Senator Leahy suggests that some of the unspent $18 billion allocated for Iraq reconstruction be used for Asian relief.)


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/30/international/worldspecial4/30prexy.html?oref=login
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:05 AM
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1. Americs first, my ass, Bushs base are his first and only concern!
cold hearted little SOB.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:05 AM
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2. Maybe it took Dubya's handlers 72 hrs to get him to...
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 07:06 AM by Hekate
...stop hollering about the End Times and focus on a statement that wouldn't make the rest of the world think he's a lunatic as well as a moron.

That's my theory, anyway.

Good for Senator Leahy, btw.

Hekate
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:06 AM
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15. He was so drunk
that it took 72 hours for him to sober up enough to deliver the statement.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:09 AM
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3. In all fairness to bu$h,
The empty-headed, clueless little Puppet Moron couldn't be expected to make any sort of statement concerning this horrible event on his own. He could not express his opinion on the subject because he had not yet been GIVEN his opinion.

Somebody had to find The Dick first to ask, "What does the pResident think about all this?" And, of course, it took 24 hours for Cheney to lose the two-inch woody that he got over the thought of 100,000 brown-skinned people dying at the Hand of a Just and Merciful God.

The Regime moved as fast as it was capable, given the fact that there was no oil involved.

:puke:
dbt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:14 AM
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4. That's a quotable quote, dbt --
"The Regime moved as fast as it was capable, given the fact that there was no oil involved."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:20 AM
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8. two-inch woody
HA HA HA :thumbsup:
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:32 AM
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12. He didn't want to scare the children. n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:16 AM
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5. God forbid someone ever decides
to nuke us. It will take W three days just to find his dick.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:19 AM
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7. Well, add another quotable quote to dbt's above!
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:18 AM
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6. Such a nice little...
heiney-spanking the NYT is giving Bush. Just a couple of warm pats on his well-padded covered butt to remind him that "we are still watching..." Damn! They could have done better than a mere chiding.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:20 AM
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9. More Like 'Saudi Royal Family First' n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:24 AM
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10. he doesn't give a shit about America either
in fact if he did give a shit then he would do something to truly help the tsunami victims.
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Dr Batsen D Belfry Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:29 AM
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11. Give Bush a break
Reasons why it took three days to speak about the Southeast Asian Crisis

1) He can't help it took him as long as it did to figure out how to pronounce Tsunami. No Child Left Behind wasn't around when he was in school.

2) Bush kept pronouncing Phuket as "Fuck It"

3) Bush kept laughing when told there was an area named Phi Phi that was pronounced "pee pee"

DBDB

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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:58 AM
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13. "We never could have imagined a tsunami..."
would have been created by an underwater earthquake": Condilethal Rice, Dec. 29, 2004.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:04 AM
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14. David Sanger, please stop kissing Bush's ass!
Typical PRESSTITUTE hired by the Screw York Times!
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:13 AM
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16. Keep your eye on the ball
The only monetary promises that he's ever kept have been tax cuts to the wealthy and money for Haliburton. All other promises of aid and support he's shortchanged. If he promises $35m, they'll only get $15m.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:39 AM
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18. Actually, $15 million IS all they're getting
The rest of it is supposed to be a loan.

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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:26 AM
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17. His plan: Marginalize the U.N.
I suspect he's setting up his own "coalition" so that the U.N. does not have the lead role in organizing the relief efforts. It's the Repug alternative to the U.N. whereby the U.S. is always in charge and can't be voted down. A benevolent dictatorship.

(Whew, the things you can do with borrowed money!)
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:51 AM
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19. 7.083 billion bbl of oil reserves in Indonesia will get * off his ass
Don't think for one pretzelsecond that there won't be a deal forced on them.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:24 AM
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20. We was watching CNN on tsunami coverage
There is like 12 of us in the office watching
Then Bush pop on
We all saw the curtain backdrop and the sole lonely rostrum he was speaking from.
There was total silence .... and whisper of bastard silently swear.

The President of the USA in all is glory telling the people of Asia he cares.
Please go see CNN for yourself ....
see wheather what I describe is wrong ....
Sadly thats is how it is projected
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:31 AM
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21. Thanks so much for posting, Oversea Visitor --
our hearts are with you, and my family has joined many other DUers in making our own contributions to organizations that I hope will bring help and hope.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:45 AM
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22. I saw his "comments" yesterday,
and was totally embarrassed for our country. He's such a neener-neener. He dribbles, he shoots, he smirks...and that annoying "Beavis and Butthead" heh-heh he does drives me up the flipping wall.

Here's a great opEd from today's NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/30/opinion/30thu2.html?oref=login&th
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:55 AM
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23. "His aides said it took that long to understand the magnitude of the ...
tragedy and to plan a recovery effort that must stretch from remote villages of Indonesia to the eastern coast of Africa."



Hey, presidunce Chimp, maybe if you would pull your head out of your ass and perhaps read or watch the news, you would probably grasp the magnitude of things a lot quicker, asshat!

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:30 AM
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25. In less than 24 hours after the quake and wave, it was known 40K were dead
He's full of shit. chimpyboy moron.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:29 AM
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24. God Bless America and to Hell with Everybody Else...
that's bush's and his christian follower's motto.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:33 AM
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26. Nah, the corrected title should be
"It's About Aid and an Image (Bush First: The Hell With Everyone Else)"
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:55 AM
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29. god bless 'red' amurrika
n/t
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:42 AM
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27. If we had a real president
They would have been on top of this from the beginning. I'm not saying they would've had a plan, but at least they would've been doing something.
We're going to be reaping some bad karma from this and all of the chimps* fuckups.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:46 AM
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28. The real implication here is Indonesia terrorism
Muslims in Indonesia are the largest growing group of recruits for terrorism today.

Bush had the perfect opportunity to nip this in the bud by reaching out to Indonesia and throwing all of America's available resources into this tragedy.

Instead of an olive branch, Bush held out a rotting sack of garbage.
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:58 AM
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30. You nailed it........n/t
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:03 AM
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31. So what's the problem?
More incentive to keep the "War on Terra-Terra-Terra" going on perpetually...A neo-con/PNAC wet dream!
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:05 AM
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32. Except for Israel, when has this nation ever come up big for
non-white, non-christian countries?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:13 AM
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33. And for Israel only because it is useful to Christian Fundies
without the end times prophecies, there would be nowhere near the support for Israel we see
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:51 AM
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34. God, the guy claims to be a Christian!
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