BLAIR MUST RESIGN IF NO WMDs ARE FOUND (Glenda Jackson)

[Emillereid]

Jul 12 2003

EXCLUSIVE: Glenda Jackson attacks PM


By Paul Gilfeather, Whitehall Editor

TONY Blair must quit if weapons of mass destruction are not found in Iraq, former minister Glenda Jackson said yesterday.


In one of the strongest attacks on Mr Blair's leadership yet by a former member of his Government, Ms Jackson said time was running out.


As several senior Labour figures raised doubts over his future, she said: "He must resign if they are not found. This is most certainly a resigning matter. British troops died for goodness sake.


"Now he is saying that only weapons 'programmes' will be found.


"Does that mean we went to war because Saddam Hussein could launch chopped up pieces of paper - effectively confetti - within 45 minutes?....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13169843_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-BLAIR%2DMUST%2DRESIGN%2DIF%2DNO%2DWMDs%2DARE%2DFOUND-name_page.html

Them there weapons programs can give you 'paper cuts' -- say what?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

1. Humming a Happy Tune

I am starting to believe this might actually happen. Blair going down, Shrub following in 2004.

Imagine the shock waves HERE if Blair is forced to step down! People will HAVE to start thinking this is the big deal that it is!

DTH

[IndianaGreen]

4. If Blair goes down, it will all fall down like a house of cards

Bush may go as far as asking Cheney to fall on his sword in order to save his sorry ass.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

6. I'd Love To See That

Imagine poor Shrubby, besieged and all alone with no adults around to protect him from himself. He'd follow Cheney out the door within months.

It warms my heart. :-)

DTH

[TankLV]

19. but if heart attack chenney is taken out of the picture, what will bunker

boy say - who will pull the strings?

This could get REAL interesting.

(Note: capitalization avoided as one means to show disrespect/disgust to those mentioned.)

[dansolo]

22. Do you really believe Bush is calling the shots?

Cheney will force Bush to fall on his sword before he ever steps down. Now that he has the power, he will not give it up easily.

[Jack Rabbit]

27. That may not be as absurd as it sounds, IG

If it comes to that, however, Bush is fried.

If Bush were really an honest man who was truly deceived, then he would be demanding the reignations of all who deceived him. This would include Cheney, who on two seperate occasions referred to Saddma's efforts to "reconstitute" Iraq's nuclear weapons program in terms that could only have come from the Niger document.

Of course, Bush is not an honest man, regardless of whether he was deceived or not. If Bush were to ask for resignations, including Cheney's, he would be in the character of the Bush we have come to know and love: a spoiled brat displaying passive/aggressive tendancies.

The likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld are going to take the fall for Bush. They may be dishonest men, but, unlike the Frat Boy, they are men.

[acmavm]

2. I just can't help but think they'll be finding them anyday. They

(Bush & Co. and Blair) have got to be sweating it. Do you think that if they do "find" something now that it will be possible to get Blix or someone in there to verify the authenticity of whatever they come up with?

[aquart]

5. Finding is not so simple

First they have to be shipped in, hidden, then discovered.

Mini nukes? Missiles? Nerve gas? Anthrax?

The situation in Iraq is not stable. Do you really want to chance having guerillas getting the cache instead of us?

Lord, it's a George Clooney movie.

[lfairban]

12. I am not sure that is going to work well with Anthrax.

It is possible that Anthrax has sort of a fingerprint, or actually better. I think you can get a good idea of where it came from by testing it. Kind of like doing a DNA test to establish parenthood. If they found it, everyone would know where it came from, or if they did not give the information out, everyone would be asking.

How did Iraq get its weapons? We sold them

Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Snr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene.

http://www.sundayherald.com/27572

More Iraq links:
http://home.columbus.rr.com/lfairban/Pages/Iraq.html

[Emillereid]

23. According to Ritter the chemical weapons

that Iraq made was of poor quality that would not even be potent anymore. Also I'm not sure how well they had weaponized anthrax. So if we're going to plant the stuff and if there's a possibility of real inspectors getting a look at it, we'd better make sure we don't find stuff that's 'too good.'

[WindRavenX]

3. Blair is under so much fire right now

I watched a blurb on the news, and jesus, members of his own party are grilling him like there's no tomorrow. British politics are so much more fun then US politics; I mean, can you imagine what Bush would do if he had to deal with hundreds of screaming members of Congress? He'd piss his own pants or drown in his own sweat.
I predict Blair is going down. He has almost NO supporters in Parliment right now.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

7. Still Humming a Happy Tune

Best case scenario is that Blair goes down, and an anti-war Labor (or Labour, if you prefer) :-) MP ascends to PM.

DTH

[indictrichardperle]

8. I dont think Poodle is in good shape

he probably has had diarrhea for months now. The guy is about to lose it.

[WindRavenX]

11. Bush does look like the stress is eating him...

...I wonder how long it'll be before he has a major hissy fit on TV. That'd be damn pricelss.

[jamesinca]

15. How can he be under stress?

He has been on vacation, got his tax breaks and secured his retirement, only thing Bush can loose at this point is his retirement pay from the government as a former president, and he really does not need that with all the tax breaks and money he is giving himself. If he was threatened with capital punishment for treason or something like that, maybe life in prison with no possibility of parole and a cell mate that wants a prison bitch he would be scared. Imagine George being sentanced to 7 times a day by his cell mate, never make noise when he farts ever again. That would be justice and very deserved for what he has done to this country.

[twilight]

18. he looks like he's 1/2 dead

Have you noticed the BIG BLACK circles under the poodle's eyeballs? He looks like he's gonna crack ... right down the middle.

Its just a matter of time before the empire collapses. It will be up to us to pick up the pieces!

God DAMN YOU * and God Damn your lies!


:dem:

[TankLV]

20. or can you imagine REPUKES grilling their own?

It's just not in their concept of their universe.

[JCMach1]

9. Even the Tories are after his blood now....

...

[Alex88]

10. Leading a war effort is often followed by downfall

This is not ment to be a prediction of what's to come, but as I recall, wars are often followed by the political downfall of those who lead them. Those that come to mind are Winston Churchill, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, George Bush I. Also, all of the leaders of the coalition for Gulf War I, Gorbachov, Thatcher, Shamir of Isreal, the Canadian leader(I forget his name) and Bush senior were all out of power within like 2 years.

[mrfrapp]

13. Thatcher wasn't PM at the time of Gulf War 1...

it was John Major, who lasted until 1997.

[Alex88]

16. True

http://www.uu.edu/front/features/front/fall98/mtbio.htm

"She resigned on November 28, 1990."

True. I'm recalling the significant role she had in bringing it about. Especially convincing President Bush that Hussein was another Hitler, when he had up until then not been too bothered by the invasion of Kuwait. However, since Blair had just taken office, he couldn't be blaimed for much of anything by the British people after the war. Much of the buildup of troops and equipment, and coalition building had already taken place when he took office.

Again, I'm not trying to predict anything. If the economy is humming in the fall of 2004, short of a big scandal, he could easily win.

[newyawker99]

25. Hi Alex88!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[FlashHarry]

14. Only MP to have won an Oscar!

Loved her in "Elizabeth R."

[Skittles]

17. GLENDA

was (is? not sure if she ever acts now) was a DAMN FINE ACTRESS.

[DrBB]

21. THAT Glenda Jackson?

I didn't realize she'd been in Blair's gov't. Saw this thread for a day or so and thought, well, just an actor's opinion after all.

D'oh!

[Jack Rabbit]

28. Yes, THAT Glenda Jackson

Please click here.


Photo from the BBC

[chasqui]

24. Still is

All politicians are good at acting...

[lfairban]

26. Not all actors are good politicians!

Remember Reagan?