Wolfowitz Says No Nationalist Insurgency in Iraq

[leftchick]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050203/ts_nm/iraq_usa_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iraq (news - web sites)'s elections showed that U.S.-led forces are not fighting a nationalist insurgency but an "unholy alliance of old terrorists and new terrorists" trying to destroy Iraq's newly forming government, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said on Thursday.


Buoyed by the turnout and less violence than expected in Iraq's elections on Sunday, Wolfowitz said it showed that a two-year process to establish a new Iraqi government "despite setbacks and tragedies, is still on track," rebutting statements from some Democrats that it has become a quagmire.


With the first round of elections completed, Wolfowitz told the Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites) U.S. forces could be drawn down to 135,000, down by 15,000. The Pentagon (news - web sites) delayed the scheduled departure of thousands of U.S. troops in order to inflate the American force level to 150,000 to help provide security ahead of the election.

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Wolfowitz said the big turnout in Iraq's elections showed the violence "is not a nationalist insurgency. It is an unholy alliance of old terrorists and new terrorists" of remnants of deposed President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s regime and "new terrorists drawn from across the region."

... why does this lying piece of shit still have a job?




I have to edit to add:

car bombings in Mosul and Baghdad Today

a convoy of 50 IP attacked and 36 abducted in Baghdad

12 IP pulled off a bus in Kirkuk and slaughtered,2 apparent IP infiltrators get away with the "NON-nationalist" insurgents

A convoy of contractors guarded by US military is attacked and several vehicles destroyed on the Baghdad Airport road

..... I guess this means things are better and there are only a few "foreign fighters' wreaking havoc all over Iraq today???

[atommom]

1. One man's group of nationalists is another man's unholy alliance

of terrorists!

[Oreo]

2. Did he ask them personally

Your hair's messed up wolfie... time to lick your comb again

[Cocoa]

3. Paul "wildly off the mark" Wolfowitz

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/consequences/2003/0228pentagoncontra.htm

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Mr. Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary, opened a two-front war of words on Capitol Hill, calling the recent estimate by Gen. Eric K. Shinseki of the Army that several hundred thousand troops would be needed in postwar Iraq, "wildly off the mark." Pentagon officials have put the figure closer to 100,000 troops. Mr. Wolfowitz then dismissed articles in several newspapers this week asserting that Pentagon budget specialists put the cost of war and reconstruction at $60 billion to $95 billion in this fiscal year. He said it was impossible to predict accurately a war's duration, its destruction and the extent of rebuilding afterward.

more...

[Bozita]

4. IIRC, he estimated Iraq war costs would be about $2 billion

The guy's got real vision.

[leftchick]

7. and Iraqi oil revenues would pay for it

ALL! Lying fuck!

[tom_paine]

5. If I am not mistaken the Old Nazis (as opposed to our Kinder and Gentler

version) also called theose who opposed them "terrorists"

Some things simply never change.

[radar]

29. Yeah - the Stroop Report for one example...

"...I found the worst of the terrorists and activists, who so far had always found ways and means to dodge every searching or evacuation action."
The Stroop Report
THE WARSAW GHETTO IS NO MORE

http://www.adolfhitler.ws/lib/genocide/stroop/stroop1.html

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/sswarsaw.html

* And I believe the founders of our country were considered terrorists themselves, by the British...

The government of the United Kingdom, which has now designated the LTTE as terrorists, had also smeared George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and Francis Marion, with the same brush. In fact, back in 1776, all fifty-six leaders of the American Revolution were branded, and Britain wanted them ‘dead or alive.’ Their crime: they signed the American Declaration of Independence.
States, Dissidents, And the British Terrorism Law
http://www.sangam.org/ANALYSIS/Sangam3_2_01.htm


The Boston Tea Party was a political protest by Boston, Massachusetts residents against the British parliament. It is one of the key national myths of the founding of the United States and a key point in the American revolution. According to the FBI, the incident was a terrorist act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_tea_party

[underpants]

6. I'm sorry but between this and the SS WaPo article-LBN is hilarious today

I have been giggling about the Soc.Sec. LOAN program since I read it and now this. Sad but funny.

[Roland99]

8. Ideology is ignorance

Guess he's not too up-to-speed on Iraq's history.

[zbdent]

9. I wonder if the people of Iraq understand the difference between

the concept that the "liberation" promised by Bush is done by a different Bush than the one who left them high and dry in 1991?

I doubt that they care. All that they probably realize is that twice, Bush has killed thousands of innocent Iraqis in the quest to kill suicide bombers . . . or so Bush43 says . . .

[PurityOfEssence]

10. If they know who they are, why can't they find them?

They don't know dick. I'll give you a hint: it's probably (e) all of the above. Whether you want to call them "nationalists" or not, many just want the fucking invader out of their country. There are obviously religious nuts at work too, since secularists and freedom fighters don't tend to blow themselves up on purpose. There are groups vying for power and probably ad-hoc alliances going on between those who don't much care for each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they found virtually no foreign fighters in Fallujah, right?

[leftchick]

11. you are right...

and I agree there is an amalgam of resistance to the occupiers happening in Iraq.

[Plaid Adder]

12. Because if it were a nationalist insurgency, it would be OK?

Sure. Anything can be done in the name of nationalism. Car bombs, you name it. We prove that every day!

Also, I love how 9 car bombs and 22 dead is "less violence than expected," as opposed to "way more violence than is acceptable."

Sigh,

The Plaid Adder

[Alpharetta]

18. "We were right!"

It's like General Cornwallis saying "See? The French are helping General Washington. We had a darn good plan except for that."

[Alpharetta]

20. It's like being smug that Ho Chi Mihn wasn't really a communist

"See? We're not losing Vietnam to a communist. He was a nationalist way before he adopted communist ideals.

"So good news, folks," McNamara said to the joint chiefs of staff, "we're not really losing Vietnam to a communist."

[AlCzervik]

13. I'm watching him on cspan, he's lives in his own bubble.

[underpants]

14. Wolfowitz seems to be touting Kennedy's plan

With the first round of elections completed, Wolfowitz told the Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites) U.S. forces could be drawn down to 135,000, down by 15,000. The Pentagon (news - web sites) delayed the scheduled departure of thousands of U.S. troops in order to inflate the American force level to 150,000 to help provide security ahead of the election.

[saigon68]

15. Don't forget the 40,000 mercenaries plying their trade

At $1,500.00 per day of more.

[IA_Seth]

16. "Unholy" does EVERYTHING have to have a religious connotation?

[deacon2]

17. Listen to Uncle Wolfie

Everything is double plus good! Next stop, National Medal of Freedom (or honor, or something). Onward Christian Soldiers! Lather, rinse, repeat! Look at my purple finger. Have you got a purple finger? Only America haters don't have a purple finger. Today we're all purple-fingered Iraqis. They don't have purple fingers in Iran, you know. And that's very, very bad.

[lebkuchen]

19. Give Wolfie time. He'll figure out how to insert "terrorist"

into his daily dose of propaganda.

[frictionlessO]

21. when are they going to realize only a very stupid enemy throws

verything they got against you when they know you are fully alerted and reinforced and waiting for them!! Come on!! I mean I was surprised that 9 bombs got off.

We telegraphed extraordinarily well that we'll kill anything suspicious that moves or breathes during the run up to the elections and election day. What kind of comander who is outgunned technologically and with actual depth of fire power, decides "hey! fuck it! Im a crazy wild eyed jihadist Ill attack them when it'll probably do the least tohelp my cause!"...

The Sistani slate is already arguing with Allawis. The Sunni did exactly what we thought they would. Turkey is handing out warnings to Kirkuk Kurds like a card dealer on acid....

Full blown civil warfare is really only a few shots away.

[Nordmadr]

22. Yeah, Bush likes to say

that "a few" terrorists and insurgents...

Well those few have manged to kill over 1400 American soldiers and send more than 10,000 more home to not fight again.

But it is just a few bad seeds...need I mention I don't notice a downward trend in casualties.

Olaf

[Paranoid_Portlander]

23. Whose scalp is that?

The picture looks like a shrunken scalp held by his two fingers. A photo in need of a caption.

[flobee1kenobi]

24. Wasn't there a stat last year some time

That stated that ID's taken from prisoners were mostly Iraqi ID's?

sounds like history Version 5

[MrPrax]

25. State Propoganda...?

State Propoganda bordering on brain-washing...

Is there anyone left that can't accept the reasonable conclusion that a foreign, white, Christian expanionist state that has killed easily a 100,000, flattened a city, has interned and tortured thousands wouldn't cause a 'nationalist' backlash and insurrection?

Given the history of the US in the region, it's surrogates and it's unapologetic attempt to place a favourable client in Iraq, what possible logic would there be to appraising the situation as 'merely' America haters with no real 'agenda'?

Obviously Wolf's comments are for domestic consumption (brainwashing) and is simply stating patriotic 'talking points' for the rest of Media to follow under pain of 'treason'...

The guy, like the rest, just don't make a lot of sense...

(BTW who won this 'successful' election anyhow?...probably the only election in the world, where the results are less important than the 'process' itself)

[ckramer]

30. No question about that - pure Propoganda

[Hardrada]

31. We know the results of our presidential elections

Before the elections. Just a process here too. Make us feel good though going through the motions.

[hector459]

26. I still say, they are going to find some "insurgents" with inked

index fingers.

[skordane]

27. Gerald Ford Moment

Reminds me of when Gerald Ford said in the Carter debate that there was no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.

[Hardrada]

32. But we can't vote this guy out

For being stupid. We can't vote his boss out for that reason since Cheney is actually rather clever.

[Joe for Clark]

28. Too Funny.

Lets drop him off in down town Mosul for lunch.

If he is still alive five minutes later I'll listen to him.

After all, he shouldn't be too worried about "just a few troublemakers")

Joe for Clark

[Emillereid]

33. A resistance fighter by any other name,

will be just as deadly. What a fool you are Wolfie!

I can't believe that after all his lies and misjudgments, any committee would still invite his testimony about anything, much less Iraq.

I wonder if he's aware of the election in Vietnam in 1967 when apparently 83% came out to vote and supposedly were not deterred by those 'terrorists.' Those same terrorists that were fighting a war of national liberation.

Can't these guys show a little creativity and come up with a new story line?

[tabasco]

34. Lying traitorous scum !

Our troops will continue to die because of criminals like Wolfowitz.

I will not be happy until I see him behind bars.

[Megahurtz]

35. Um, yeah right,

just like everything else they say.

[ausiedownunderground]

36. Great photo Leftchick -"No you honour i lied! My dick's only this big!"

Paul "Pinnocchio" Wolfowitz. Nose bigger than his dick! Another example of PATHETIC US leadership.

[not fooled]

37. crackpot divorced from reality NOM

[Jack Rabbit]

38. As much as I don't like Wolfowitz, it's sad to see him stoop to this level

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