Cheney Says He Doesn't See Iraq Theocracy

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney on Sunday brushed off concern that Islam will be the guiding principle of Iraq's new government, saying the country has the right to shape its own democracy without becoming "an Iraqi version of America."

"They will do it their way," Cheney said. "They will do it in accordance with their culture and their history and their beliefs and whatever role they decide they want to have for religion in their society. And that's as it should be."

The United Iraqi Alliance - a Shiite-led group whose leaders have ties to neighbor Iran - has taken a big lead in results being tallied for the Jan. 30 election.

Cheney said he does not think that means Iraq will have a theocracy like that in neighboring Iran, where individual rights are restricted.

Story: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/politics/10833080.htm



All this from one of the men who "saw" mobile chemical labs in sat photos.

[diamond14]

1. cheney has fucked up everything he's touched...it's no wonder he can't see

this coming....

[durablend]

4. What would you expect?

They all wear shit covered glasses and shit filled earplugs so they won't see or hear the truth.

[AG78]

2. He doesn't care what it becomes

He's done business in a theocracy in Iran. He's done business in a theocracy in Saudi Arabia. I'm sure he's done it in a military dictatorship in Pakistan, or an authoritarian police state in Uzbekistan. He's done business in Iraq with Hussein there.

Whether it's oil, or war, it's all a business to people like Cheney.

[w13rd0]

3. If the end result...

...is a society in which women have less freedom & equality than they did prior to the invasion-occupation (entirely possible), the US will have not spread freedom, other than the freedom to oppress and persecute.

[stepnw1f]

5. That's Because Cheney is Blind

The greedy power hungry only see what they want to see. That's why they fail so miserably, while innocent bi-standards always pay.

[bluedog]

6. you know

I really don't hear the pubbys talk about cheney very much......he does sneaky things in the background.but they claim they voted for bush..very seldom do they say bush and cheney....wonder why?

[kiraboo]

8. Maybe they view Cheney as an intellectual! LMAO.

Did you see the pictures of his face at the SOTU address? It reminded me of what somebody - it might have been Mark Twain - said when he saw a representation of Shakespeare for the first time - "...a bladder-faced burgher..." as in, surely not noble enough to represent genius. I think this describes Cheney very well. A face like a bladder which reflects all the nobility he possesses. None.

[Magleetis]

7. I hope

that Iraq turns into the biggest theocracy the world has ever seen.

[CTLawGuy]

9. he's an idiot

NT

[fortyfeetunder]

10. Cheney! Get out of Denial!

They are in deep denial when they don't believe the Iraqi citizens want religion to guide their government. After all, Bush uses God to guide him, why can't Allah guide Iraq?

[cliss]

11. The headline says it all: "Cheney doesn't see Iraqi...."

Doesn't that sum it all up? The man doesn't see. He's incapable of seeing what's right in front of him. I remember watching him at the Presidential Debate #2, when he battled it out with John Edwards.

The man is knowledgeable, no doubt about it. He had a lot of his facts straight; he has a good memory, can talk a good talk......to an extent. But when I listened carefully, I heard a lot of bull-shitting too. A lot of "canned" statements, that he's had plenty of practice. He promised a lot, but I'm sure they were just empty promises.

His body language was interesting, too. He was curled up, and he looked down a lot of the time. His body language said, "Leave me alone". Like he was hiding in shame. (small wonder)

So I came to the conclusion that he's nothing but a big bullshitter. A fast talker. A used car salesman, with much less integrity than they have.

So whenever Dick Cheney opens up his big mouth, we should take everything he says with not a grain of salt, but a while salt shaker. Liar.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

14. Funny, I was thinking the same about Rummy this morning as he did

the talk circuit.

I used the same "used car salesman" descriptor.

[VegasWolf]

12. Yes, and Cheney went around in late 2004 insisting that we would

still find WMDs in Iraq. This clown couldn't predict
a rainstorm if it was pouring outside.

[smoogatz]

13. Well, he's been right about everything else...

Like our troops being greeted as liberators. And the WMD thing...
Uh-oh...

[Moderator]

15. kick

[Mark E. Smith]

16. Cheney: US Not Concerned About Iran-Style Govt In Iraq

By VOA News
06 Feb 2005

Vice President Dick Cheney says U.S. officials are not concerned that Iraq's next govt will seek to fashion an islamic state like neighboring Iran.

The vice president was responding (to) a story in the New York Times that said leading Itaqi Shi'ite clerics want Islam to be the guiding principle in Iraq's new constitution.


Translation: The Bush administration is scared to death that people will start talking about this latest Iraq failure. 12,000 US casualties so Iraq could have an Ayatollah led govt like Iran?

Story taken from Cheney's Fox News Sunday appearance this morning.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-02-06-voa22.cfm

[wtmusic]

17. We don't care if they bury women alive

for being unfaithful...as long as that crude keeps flowing

[Supersedeas]

18. Pretty confidence about that--Confidence to the point of FOREKNOWLEDGE

[Zynx]

25. Why do you assume they have some master plan?

They have done nothing in Iraq OTHER than screw up.

[Supersedeas]

36. what does a master plan have to do with 'rigging' elections

the voting irregularities in Iraq are a fact...and it's not that hard to screw up a few critical polling stations...just ask Kenneth Blackwell and Kitty Harris (they can fill you in on the 'master plan')

[Massacure]

19. Yet they are drawing plans to invade/bomb iran for their nuke tech

Right.....

[HysteryDiagnosis]

20. I love my vice president. He is so witty and steadfast. eom.

[GetTheRightVote]

21. As long as they run the show who cares what they pretend to be...

:kick:

[Blue Gardener]

22. Baloney

No way they are going to let that happen. That might put a crimp in their plans to take all of Iraq's oil.

[Mark E. Smith]

32. When Cheney & Rummy Show Up On A Raft Of Sunday Morning Talk Shows...

...with the express purpose of displaying their lack of concern over Iraq becoming the fundamentalist mirror image of their co-religionists ruling in Iran, they are very concerned.

Originally the purpose of this war was to stop Iraqi WMD from being used by Saddam Hussein, or falling into the hands of America's terrorist enemies. Except there were no WMD in Iraq.

Then we had gone into Iraq because Saddam Hussein had connections to Al Qaeda, and could possibly have played a role in the 9/11 attacks. But then even Bush had to admit there were no connections between Saddam hussein and Al Qaeda.

And when the 2004 election cycle got under way the Bush administration rolled out the story that we had gone into Iraq in order to bring democracy to a part of the world where none had ever existed. Except that the Iraqi people, when given the opportunity to vote, elected an Islamic fundamentalist theocracy that has about as much to do with democracy as bananas do with pick-up trucks.

So what will the next fairy tale be? That Iran subverted the elections in Iraq and must be taught a lesson?

[ckramer]

23. Another damn lie

What were these thousand dead soliders died for?

[tlcandie]

24. So why are they wanting to liberate and bring democracy to Iran?

OH, because they supposedly have a nuc to protect themselves from Israel and the US.

EDIT: And Iraq will be better off after this? According to who? It's just exchanging one set of problems/issues with another!! Unbelieveable! I don't believe this for a moment..these are the words of a madman!

[tabasco]

26. I believe it ...

We are preparing to turn over Iraq back to the Iraqis, with one key exception - - THE OIL. US forces will be shifted to guard oil facilities as we allow Iraq to provide their own law & order (civil war). Cheney and the corporate cabal won't give a damn about what kind of government Iraq has as long as they stay away from the pipelines.

[jimfromthebronx10469]

28. tabasco...

how right you are !! its about the crude...not about wmd's or democracy but the worlds 2nd largest supply of oil..long before sept.11 plans were on the table for the "invasion of iraq" see it at www.cooperativeresearch.org
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :dem:

[Toucano]

27. Wow. Earlier he "didn't see" that gov't developing.

Now he's "not concerned".

His opinion has been upgraded to stable, I guess.

[Kimber Scott]

29. But, what about the liberty and freedom our troops have been dying for?

And, if Iran-style government in Iraq is not a problem, then why is Iran-style government in Iran a problem?

I hate these people. I really do.

[proud patriot]

30. Cheney is full of CRAP

[leesa]

31. This is their usual MO....when they royally screw things up, they pretend

it's A-OK with them. Meanwhile they are thinking up more sleazy tactics to get their way...and "their" oil.

[cthrumatrix]

34. $300Billion and 1500 lives for an Islamic State.... thanks bush

[enki23]

33. these incompetent fools are pretending what they got was what they wanted

all along.

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Now, a US theocracy, that's another story....

[indepat]

37. Wonder if any prospect of a theocracy is seen in this part of the world

[infusionman]

38. I don't know why...

All those people are over there killing themselves in an effort to kill our troops. If they were smart, all they would have to do is bide their time, and as soon as we pull out,then they can take over.

It's gonna happen, sooner or later. I just wish we didn't have to have so many of our troops murdered to get it done.

[yellowcanine]

39. Cheney and Bush are both ignorant barbarians who have no sense of history

or their own culture, let alone other cultures. Bush represents the trumph of knownothingism over intellectualism. They are the western mirror image of the Taliban.