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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:02 PM
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Snow: Tight Spending, Tax Cuts to Cut U.S. Deficits
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow, launching the Bush administration's defense of its new budget proposals, made clear on Tuesday that tax cuts remain a cornerstone of its plans for boosting economic growth.

"This administration appreciates that cutting taxes and exercising fiscal discipline must go hand in hand," the Treasury chief told the House Ways and Means Committee.

As he has done in the past, Snow called deficits "unwelcome" and attempted to head off any criticism that excessive tax-cutting zeal helped create them.

"We are not under-taxed and higher taxes will not be the solution to reducing deficits," he said. "Fiscal discipline, combined with economic growth, is the correct path."

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=7570826&src=rss/ElectionCoverage
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:04 PM
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1. A 40 million dollar inaugural is tight spending? n/t
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:07 PM
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4. Sure it is
They could have paid for rooms or meals for the soldiers they ordered to be at the inauguration, but they didn't! That's what Bush calls thrifty.
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:06 PM
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2. This is so sad it makes me want to cry
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:07 PM
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3. You know, these guys never explain how tax cuts reduce the deficit...
Why? Because they don't. Tax cuts increase the deficit, which in turn gives the license to cut education and social programs for the poor. They've been pulling this shit since Raygun, at least.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:16 PM
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5. I live in Atlanta. There are numerous autos still wearing their
"W" stickers with pride. But, in today's Atlanta Journal, there was a listing of some of the budget cuts effecting Georgia. For instance,
60 C130 airplanes, 100+ F22, 15,0000 farmers, CDC cuts, and hundreds of thousands of other Georgians directly impacted by the new "austere"
(meaning no money left after funding the Iraq war) budget.

How long will it be before the morons flashing their "W" stickers will begin to realize that they have been "had"? Amazing how these white people down here are shooting themselves in the foot by supporting Bush. I hope they are enjoying the fact that gays will have a difficult time, abortions may become illegal in about 15 years
and the Iraqi new freedoms (while 100,000+ are already dead).

Are we having fun yet? Oh, I forgot, it's probably Clinton's fault.

Of course when one is totally "faith-based", they can make up anything and declare it to be true without the need of objective evaluation.
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:05 PM
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25. I know what you mean......
I relocated to the area about 6 months ago and there are times when I'm waiting in traffic surrounded by the W people and frustrated as hell that I can't find a good progressive radio but I can find Hannity, Rush and O'Reilly as easy as hell that I actually question my sanity.

I agree that I am astounded as well. What really kills me is that the housing construction continues at an unbelievable pace. When these cuts hit, how are people going to be able to afford these homes?
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:23 PM
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26. don't feel too bad about finding a progressive on the radio
I live in the Chicago area. We voted for Gore and Kerry. In IL we have a democratic gov and both house of the legislature. Still we have no progressives on the radio. Liberal media? What a laugh!
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:06 PM
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30. Get the F**k out of here !~!!!
None at all??? Wow. In NY you could find them. Didn't have the prescence that they should have had but you could find them. I'm very surprised that a city like Chicago would be progressive free.
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:17 PM
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32. Used to have Nancy Skinner and Mike Malloy
but both are gone now. To the best of my knowledge there is no one.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:56 PM
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16. I know! I know!
They didn't include those figures in the budget!!!

Go read the Democrats Attack Budget article. It's true! They just didn't include making the tax cuts permanent in their budget calculations! Unfriggin' believable!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:47 PM
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28. They've been pulling this BS since President Hoover caused the
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 06:47 PM by w4rma
Great Depression with this same exact "trickle down"/"turning the corner" BS.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:16 PM
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6. Yeah, sure. The tax cuts so far have taken a surplus to record levels
Of deficit, but hey, ya gotta admire record-setters, right? :eyes:

Any wonder they call it a Snow-job?
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:17 PM
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7. don't forget HR 4520 a 137B corporate/special interest pork feast
I'm so sick of their brazen lies and out of reality "talking points".

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:18 PM
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8. Bush's plans have worked so well up until now.
NOT!

I wonder how these guys can stand up and tell people what they're going to do with a straight face. Nothing has worked as planned for this bunch. Everything they've done has blown up in their face. You'd think they would show some embarrassment they screwed things up so bad but they act as if nothings wrong.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:25 PM
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9. They don't count Iraq of course
that's a freebee. Also they don't count the costs to phase out social security.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:58 PM
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18. And they don't count the tax cuts!
Isn't that an amazing way to balance a budget? Just don't count reductions in income, voila! You're a freakin' financial genius!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:26 PM
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10. Reducing revenue will decrease the deficit?
Hunh?

It hasn't helped yet.

I seem to recall higher taxes during the Clinton administration and he managed 4 years of fiscal surpluses!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:50 PM
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29. Note that those taxes were higher on the weathy and lower on the middle
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 06:51 PM by w4rma
class and the poor than they are now. (Remember that "fees" are taxes also)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:29 PM
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11. The Federal Debt will reach a 50-year Record High in FY2006
In very meaningful terms (as a percentage of the GDP), the Federal Debt will reach a 50-year Record High in FY2006 as a result of the fiscal irresponsibility of the Reichbot Banana Republicans during Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle, and Bush/Cheney. This doesn't even include foreseeable supplemental appropriations of over $80 billion for the military occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.


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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:33 PM
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12. G.H.W. Bush had a name for this: "voodoo economics"
He was right then and his son is wrong now.
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:44 PM
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13. snow job!!!
What a moron!!!If raising taxes will not reduce the deficit,what will? according to the Repugs,more tax CUTTING is the answer.What a bunch of selfish idiots!
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:47 PM
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14. WTF???
"This administration appreciates that cutting taxes and exercising fiscal discipline must go hand in hand..."
WTF???
Snow called deficits "unwelcome..."
No SHIT???
WHO hired THIS lame-ass???
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:51 PM
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15. It's not that they're looking to decrease the deficit...
Or improve the economy, for that matter........To the GOP, the deficit is just fine the way it is....This enables them to do what they always wanted to do since the 50's - cut all government programs except for defense and end government as we know it. If they get less taxes from the rich, the only thing left will be taxes from the rest of us. If they successfully cut every gov't program not directly related to the war on terra', all OUR taxes will go towards funding the Defense Dept. so we can continue to get into wars that the poor and middle classes will wind up fighting....

Who said * was stupid? This is actually a brilliant strategy.

Bottom-feeding, dirt-bagging, motherfucking EVIL......but brilliant.

:evilfrown:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:02 PM
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19. Snow is in bedded with GOP!
I think he wants to take this country into bankruptcy!!!
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:58 PM
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17. WTF
are these guys smoking....I want some!:hippie: :bounce: :wtf: :silly: :dunce:
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:04 PM
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20. Yeah, supply-side economics has worked so well in the past...
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:18 PM
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21. If I give away all my money...
I can pay my bills. :crazy:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:37 PM
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22. Tax Cuts DO NOT reduce deficits...
..period. They increase them. We've seen that. It's just like trickle-down - the sh*t doesn't work. Didn't we try that crap in the 80s? (cutting taxes for the rich and trickle-down enronomics?)

Jeebus.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:28 PM
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23. More from Reuters: Snow Urges Quick Action on Social Security
snip>
"The sooner you act, the more options are available," Snow said near the end of a three-hour hearing at which several Democratic lawmakers complained they still did not have details of the White House's plan for an overhaul, which would include private savings accounts for younger workers.

Democrats also criticized the absence of information about the costs involved in altering Social Security, which Snow said was "doomed by our country's demographics and in need of wise and effective reform."

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=7572184&src=rss/ElectionCoverage

This guy's killing me
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 09:52 PM
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31. wise != nazi
John Snowjob said:

"...{Social Security is} doomed by our country's demographics and in need of wise and effective reform."


No matter how hard you try, you just can't say "wise" & republinazi in the same sentence. Never gonna happen.




"Prosperity is just around the corner." -- Herbert Hoover
"The economy has turned a corner." -- GW Bush

Herbert Hoover = GW Bush

Neither man cared about the Depression their economic policies created.

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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:45 PM
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24. Just how do tax cuts when we are spending over a billion a week
in Iraq cut the deficit? I heard on NPR coming home that Bush says doing away with the big farm subsidies would save a billion plus over 10 years. Ha! That is one week killing innocents in Iraq.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 06:37 PM
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27. Fuzzy math.
When Canada cut its deficit (and turned it to a surplus) the government implemented both tax increases and spending cuts. It worked, and now we can afford to re-invest.

It is folly to think tax cuts can lead to lowered deficits, especially tax cuts on the rich.
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