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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:50 AM
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Pentagon to investigate 10 (Soldiers) suspected as serial rapists
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=54&u_sid=1340865

Published Saturday
February 19, 2005

Pentagon to investigate 10 suspected as serial rapists

THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

NEW YORK - Stung by reports of serial rapists in the ranks, the Pentagon said Friday that it would investigate the service members identified by a watchdog group.

(snip)

"We're looking and trying to determine who these predators are," said Lt. Col. Joe Richard, a Pentagon spokesman.

(snip)

Each has been accused by two or more service members who came to the Miles Foundation for help.

Six are in the Army, two are in the Marines and one each is in the Navy and Air Force.

(snip)

In an interview airing Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes," Lt. Jennifer Dyer of the New Jersey National Guard said the Army treated her "like a criminal" after she reported being raped by a fellow serviceman, and she was even ordered to return to the base where her alleged attacker was stationed.

complete story:
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=54&u_sid=1340865
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:54 AM
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1. EGADS!!!
I don't even want to imagine:wtf:?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:03 AM
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2. Jeffrey Dahmer was in the Army, lived in Germany on an Army Post
in the 80s when there were several unexplained sex related murders in the German community ...
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:48 AM
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3. males or females?
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:57 AM
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4. Watch "60 Minutes" this Sunday
Watch "60 minutes" this Sunday.
It was the POAC who broke the Jennifer Dyer story and brought it to the mainstream media.
Her story is chilling and appalling.

POAC:
http://oldamericancentury.org/
http://oldamericancentury.org/jennifer.htm
The stories as we broke them in chronological order

Editors note: A tip of the hat to Mike Francis at the Oregonian who picked up this story and broke it in mainstream print media.
10-23 An Act of Betrayal: The Rape of 1st LT Jennifer Dyer
10-24 Jennifer's statement
10-25 Representative Frank A. LoBiondo begins receiving mail regarding Jennifer
11-05 Betrayed—The Rape of 1st LT Jennifer Dyer Here is the latest update on Jennifer
11-09 New York Times picks up the story
11-09 Free Republic picks up the story. Characterizes Jennifer as a black lesbian leftist activist who joined the military for the purpose of attacking it.
The state of New Jersey disagrees. Jack Dalton, the author who broke the story, has tried repeatedly to address them and set her record straight only to be immediately banned from their forum and having his posts deleted.
11-14 Mike Hall will face a pre-trial hearing on "rape, conduct unbecoming an officer and adultery.
11-22 An update from Jack Dalton
12-16 The Continued Plight of 1st LT Jennifer Dyer
12-22 Victory for Jennifer!!!! The Assistant Secretary of the Army (Manpower and Reserve Affairs) approved Jennifer Dyer's Resignation of Commission Request, effective 8/31/04 before the AWOL. The Character of Separation is Honorable. She now awaits the DD214. Word came through yesterday.

(Kudos to POAC and Jack Dalton!!!!)

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POAC Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:20 AM
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5. I hear that POAC guy
is really cool.
;)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 08:54 AM
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6. So we hear
;-)

I am glad that this story has gotten some attention. Absolutely appalling that it appears there is still such a "oh dear..." with a wink, wink to the perp and a "boys will be boys" attitude. While it appears to have needed external urging to move forward - I am glad to read that there are now active investigations into other cases. Perhaps the aforementioned attitude will eventually change.
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:08 AM
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7. Sexual assaults took place in combat areas, group asserts (307 cases)
A victims support group said members of the military have reported 307 sexual assaults that took place while they were stationed in Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan or Bahrain.

A statement from the Connecticut-based Miles Foundation, which first raised concerns about assaults on women serving in Iraq and Kuwait last year, said the alleged assailants included other members of the military, allies and foreigners. Most of the victims were women.

About one-third of the cases reported to the Miles Foundation also have been reported to military officials, the statement said.

http://www.marinetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-669405.php

this was too late for LBN so i'll tag it on this thread...
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:01 PM
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8. Only a third reported it TO the military...
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 12:09 PM by Panda1
...imagine how many women DON'T report having been raped.
We all know their response:Shut up Ms. Soldier or YOU will give the military a bad name.

Reading Lt. Dyer's account of her ordeal gave me the creeps.
If that's the way it's handled when going through Chain of Command, I have to surmise that many women avoid the hassle and remain silent.

I know, Im using the famous Peggy Noonan technique of "reporting".
"I wasn't there and I don't know any of the people involved but I can imagine they felt (fill in blank) and I'd say they were thinking (fill in blank) so it's true."

http://hometown.aol.com/milesfdn/myhomepage/
Interpersonal Violence Associated with the Military:
Facts and Findings
The Estimates:

Recent estimates suggest that domestic violence in the military rose from 18.6 per 1000 in 1990 to 25.6 per 1000 in 1996 .-FY90-96, Spouse & Child Maltreatment, Department of Defense
~ In FY 2001, 18,000 reported cases of spouse abuse occured involving military personnel. Eleven thousand were substantiated, rate of substantiated aggression of 16.5 per 1000.-Symposium on DV Prevention Research, 2002
~ The predominant type of substantiated spouse abuse is physical abuse. Eighty-five percent of the abuse is physical abuse.-Final Report on Spouse Abuse, Caliber Associates, 1996;
~Of the substantiated cases in 2001, 57% involved mild abuse; 36%, moderate; and 7%, severe.-Symposium on DV Prevention Research, 2002
~Offenders are somewhat less likely to be promoted and somewhat more likely to be separated from the Service. The fear of negative consequences is probably out of proportion to the true impact.-Abuse Victims Study, DoD, 1994
~Seventy-five to eighty-four percent of alleged offenders are honorably discharged.-Abuse Victims Study, DoD, 1994
~Although data are hard to obtain, it is apparent that relatively few military personnel are prosecuted or administratively sanctioned on charges stemming from domestic violence.-Initial Report of the Defense Task Force on Domestic Violence, 2001

..snip
-Department of Defense Sexual Harassment Survey, 1995
~Thirty percent of female veterans in a recent survey reported rape or attempted rape during active duty.
~Thirty-seven percent of women who reported a rape or attempted rape had been raped more than once; fourteen percent of the victims reported having been gang raped.
~Three fourths of the female veterans who were raped did not report the incident to a ranking officer. One third didn't know how to; and one fifith believed that rape was to be expected in the military. Women who served in Gulf War I were the only group that did not consider rape to be an expected part of military life.

...rest at link

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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:28 AM
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9. Jennifer Dyer story tonight
Tip of the iceberg on the "serial rapist" ugly truth.
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:08 PM
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11. Lots left on the cutting room floor.
Rummy interview cut.
Also snipped, mention of source: POAC

Sigh....damned Librul media.
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ausiedownunderground Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:35 AM
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10. If your a serial rapist or killer - Whats better Iraq or the US!!!
Nobody in the US knows what the "Fuck" is going on in Iraq. The serial rapist or killer may be killed by the Iraqi guerrillas if he/she is unlucky but if not - World of "FUNNNN". Protected by the US military!!! We do nothing wrong with our "Volunteer" army?? Hey, were the US Military!
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:12 PM
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12. I'd say that the cause of this is...
the murderer training that the Army puts soldiers through.

Take a "heartland" hick...put him through desensitization training so that he becomes a more efficient killing machine...and you get individuals willing to exercise the same "power over the enemy" mentality on their fellow female soldiers...and not flinch for a second in doing it.

Albert Einstein, in his social writings, talked about this...about the mentality of the military..and the consequences to the human beings' psyche that were placed in the training.

We never hear about it...but soldiers and officers regularly "explode" later in their lives...beating their wives, fighting in bars, etc. It happens all the time...and we ignore it as a society.
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