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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:36 AM
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Clinton: Hillary Would Be Great President
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 06:39 AM by cal04
Former President Clinton said Sunday that his wife, Hillary, would be an excellent choice as the first female leader of the world's most powerful nation. In an interview with Japan's TV Asahi, Clinton said he did not know whether his wife, the senator of New York state, has any plans to one day run for the presidency
"I don't know if she'll run or not," he told the network, but added, "She would make an excellent president, and I would always try to help her."

Hillary Rodham Clinton has said she plans to run for re-election as New York senator in 2006. Speculation has periodically surfaced, however, that the 57-year-old former first lady may have her sights set for the presidency in 2008.Results from a U.S. poll released last week showed that six in 10 American voters believe the United States is ready for a female president.Fifty-three percent thought Hillary Clinton should try for the job, according to the survey by the Siena College Research Institute and sponsored by Hearst Newspapers. "If she did run and she was able to win, she'd make a very, very good president," Clinton said Sunday. "I think now she's at least as good as I was."

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050227/APA/502270573
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=535428&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:42 AM
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1. that's the way to do it, big dog... keep them in a constant state of
agitation. 8^)
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heyphillip Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:20 AM
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17. Hillary in 08
She can't win and if the demorcrates are stupid again in a presidential election they will loose again.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:59 AM
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2. Give it to em straight Bill!
Dammit, I sure do miss him!
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:21 AM
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3. I fear that Hillary would only try to out "hawk" Condi.
And we don't need anybody like that in the WH.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:12 AM
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10. Me too
I will not support her candidacy.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:55 AM
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15. Is Hillary For The Grassroots Demos?
She seems ready to jettison most of what the "librul" base of the democratic party wants and to embrace as much of the DLC as she can find. I am ill at ease to clamor on her behalf until I see more definitive position for what the "progressives" and base democrats say of her. I am not ready to give her or her husband the benefit of doubt any longer. If they are not willing to abandon the "triangulation" nonsense, then we should not give any support for this quest.
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Blue to the bone Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:46 AM
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51. Fear not all, she's far more progressive than she's........
........letting on. Her current move to the right is merely to fake out the Murikan Sheeple.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:24 AM
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4. Which is the reason the repukes are pumping up Condi.
Lord if there would be a race between Hillary and Condi, I don't think I'd be able to take it. But I'd have to see the repuke party nominate a black woman first before I really start talking about it.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 10:19 AM
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16. My thoughts exactly.
My faith in the open-mindedness of the Republican base tells me this will never happen.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:47 PM
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28. Many of the Republicans I know would not vote for a woman, nor
would they vote for someone who's African American. I may be wrong, but I can't see Condi Rice running.

With regard to Hillary, I don't think she can win, either. She's my senator, and I like her, but we need a better candidate in 2008, and we need the Democratic Senate seat in New York.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:37 AM
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42. I think republicans
would sooner vote in an African-American male for president than a female of any race.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:33 AM
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5. I expect Bill to endorse Hillary. He owes her big time for his affair
with Monica as well as being her husband.

If Hillary is the Dem nominee in '08, I'll be voting Green. She's too pro-war, too pro-corporate and too pro-Israeli-apartheid for me. And of course, she really is unelectible, thanks to Bill. The Repukes will be running ads saying, "Do you want him as First Husband back in the White House flirting with interns?"
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justy387 Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:28 AM
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18. The republicans may be bad...
but not that bad! THEY WOULD NOT RUNS ADS SAYING, "Do you want him as First Husband back in the White House flirting with interns?" That's insane.

Notice that Hillary Clinton's approval ratings went way up in NY. Why? Because of her speeches moderating her position on abortion. It works to sell out. It wins elections.

What will you accomplish by voting green? Putting in Frist or Jeb or Condi or Brownback?! That way we'll have a conservative supreme court that would outlaw abortion and gays and everything else. Then, in 2010, after a few more wars, you will regret that you didn't vote for the democrat.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:00 PM
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23. I voted ABB in 2004. ABB expired on Nov. 2, 2004
No more supporting Repuke-lite Dems, like Hillary.

Oh, and you totally underestimate the Repukes. They are already working on a "Swiftboat Vet" type guerrilla campaign against her. It won't take long for these creeps to use the "Hillary as Prez = Bill Clinton as First Husband rollicking with future Monicas and staining the reputation of the White House again" ads.
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hezekkia Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:07 PM
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32. well said, justy. n/t
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justy387 Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:59 PM
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38. Thanks for the support.
While I respect the views of the very liberal on this board, I think that it's time for Democrats to realize that we have to be much more realistic and in-touch with mainstream Americans.
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hezekkia Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:35 AM
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41. though I DO think Repubs would stoop to that level.
I can hear Hannity and O'Reilly raving now. still-- your point is well taken that we shouldn't be killing our own.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:09 PM
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52. If, by mainstream, you mean those influenced by the rightwing MSM
then you should know Hillary doesn't stand a chance.

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rukkyg Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:56 PM
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54. Moving to the center
only serves to activate the strict father frame of swing voters, having them vote Republican.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:16 PM
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34. Yes they are that bad
they would say that and more. They ARE insane, or haven't you noticed?
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:36 AM
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50. Oh please! Not that bad???!?!??
They denigrated a WAR HERO and dragged a DECORATED VETERAN through the mud and you're saying that they're "not that bad"???

They are complete and utter scum. No debate.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:36 AM
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20. good point!! rofl
"Do you want him as First Husband back in the White House flirting with interns?"

i would not support hillary, for the exact reasons you mentioned, but she is the most ... um, not visible ... maybe the best known ... no, that's not what i'm trying to say. boxer is vocal, and i would stand behind her in a second. she is ethical and supports the left. but she does not have the presence ... ugh, i can't find the right words! she has a HUGE presence, larger than hillary, in my eyes - maybe that's it - hillary is more recognizable to the mainstream. that is it! and that scares me.

did you like my train of thought there?!?! good god - go get some more coffee, girl!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:52 AM
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49. Jeeze...endorse his wife? What a reach....
I mean, Liddy Dole spent all that time stumping for Steve Forbes...
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:47 AM
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6. I will vote for her if she is the only...
choice, minus a Green. And she damn sure better move back from her right-ward shift!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:53 AM
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7. And now he talks about the real reason that he was so little help during
the last election and so damn little help to us now. He's just left us to wallow in four more years of bush** so he can try to set it up for Hillary. And she's turning out to be no great prize.

No vote for Hillary in my future. Why not be honest and vote for an avowed corporatist republican?
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:57 AM
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8. Vote Hillary in 2008 and hand the election to the Repuglycans again.
Hillary for Prez in 2008?

No f***ing way!!!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:03 AM
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44. So little help? The man had heart bypass surgery
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:00 AM
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9. I'd vote for her, but I'd rather we have a different female candidate
Senator Boxer would be an awesome prospect.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:17 AM
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11. No.
NT!

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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:24 AM
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12. The Right Wing has wet dreams about the Dems nominating Hillary
The rank and file have as much, if not more, distate for Hillary than we have for Bush. She is their most productive fund raising tool in 100 years. She will get out more Republican votes than Ronald Reagan. And she will split the Democrats who won't unite behind her.

If the Dems nominate her, we might as well not bother with an election. Post election analysts will be talking about what can Democrats do the next election to at least get to McGovern's electoral share as a building block for the future.
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hezekkia Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:10 PM
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33. not really
have you ventured over to any right-wing blogs lately? They think Hillary is our strongest pick-- and don't tell me the stupid-asses at Free Republic are just trying to trick us into nominating H.Rod. they aren't that smart.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:26 AM
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43. I agree
kcwayne, they would just love to have a polarizing Democrat in our court.
How soon we all forget just how venomous the repukes are.
In fact if one happens to venture over to that other disgusting message board those idiots are STILL going on and on about Clinton 5 years after he has been out of office.
:eyes:
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:22 AM
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46. I sadly admit, you are correct.. n/t
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:00 PM
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55. i agree. i hope she's not dumb enough to run
after what they did to her already,if i were she, i'd be having nightsweats over the idea of running against that ugly GOP machine.
Isn't she the woman they love to hate the most?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:31 AM
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13. No
See post No. 5
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:38 AM
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14. Is this country ready for a women president?
I got into an argument the other day with a 74 year church woman that thought no women should ever be president, LOL!!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:33 AM
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19. What else could he say?
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:44 AM by gulliver
Hillary is a great woman, but she is only qualified to be president if you don't count the people of the United States as a factor. She is only good presidential material as a matter of (misguided) principle and misunderstood statistics.

As has been previously written many times by others, the six in ten number for people saying the United States is ready for a female president is a pathetically low number, not a cause for celebration. The Republicans will play it up big time though, if for no other reason than to keep the Hillary speculation alive. In my opinion, there won't actually be a female president until the vast majority of us baby boomers are in the ground.

One interesting thing I noticed in the above piece is the mischaracterization of Bill Clinton's quote. The writer writes "Clinton said he did not know whether his wife... has any plans to ... run for the presidency." But Clinton did not say that. He said "I don't know if she'll run or not." Are journalists just stupid?
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skeeters Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:45 AM
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21. Act, Don't React
I hope we never choose a candidate because of how the Riech Wing reacts. So I guess we should never have nominated Roosevelt or Kennedy because the Bigots wouldn't like them.

And I would love to have a Woman President. But I have turned my back on Hillary, Big Time.

She did not stand up for us. She is too busy kissing Bush's ass. 90 killed in Iraq and she called it a victory for the US. Go and tell that to the families, Shillary.

Give me The Boxer any day. And Dick Durbin is on the Offense. Back him to the hilt.
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:01 PM
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22. The era of the Bush\Clinton Dynasty? I've had enough already.
This isn't supposed to be a monarchy.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:37 PM
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24. Rove, Gingrich, Frist: Hillary an excellent Dem candidate for president
How do you like her: baked or broiled, sauce on the side?
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:06 PM
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25. I coulda sworn I typed in "democraticunderground.com"
but judging from these comments I somehow ended up at "freerepublic.com".

Wonder how that happened ...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:34 PM
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26. There will be a broad range of candidates. Hillary, Clark, Edwards etc.
Not one will get through the primaries unscathed.
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hezekkia Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:22 PM
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35. LOL, Mizmoon
I agree-- this place can be scary sometimes. The fringe-left apparently hates anyone who doesn't align w/ their views 100%, and they're willing to throw anyone more centrist than Dennis Kucinich to the wolves. I hate to break it to these folks, but Hillary Clinton is not the equivalent of Jerry Falwell, Paul Wolfowitz, or John Ashcroft. I probably won't vote for her in the primary, but I'd gladly vote for her in the general.

If these people who are bitching and moaning about Hillary voted (with the same uber-purist standards) in past elections, they would have clearly been against FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton and every other great Democratic leader of this country--they weren't perfectly progressive either.

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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:36 PM
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27. She's got my vote if she wants it. nt
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dameocrat Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:08 PM
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29. I don't hate her, but I don't want her nominated either
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 09:18 PM by dameocrat
I think her policy of pandering to the dlc most of whom are rabid Hillary haters is dumb politics and I we need a smart politician this time around. Not another Kerry who is moderate right but perceived as liberal. That is the worst possible type of candidate one can have. Someone who is disliked by the left and the right, not to mention moderates. They are the worst Hillary haters of all.
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:28 PM
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30. Well....
I wasn't too crazy about William Jefferson, but at least he is intellectually inclined. Same goes for Kerry. I think Hillary could be a more effective candidate than Kerry, and she's very smart. I am curious to see how she would battle the right-wing punditry.

I wish she'd swing left, but from a tactical standpoint, that's probably not feasible. The abortion issue has gotten blown out of proportion with emotional appeals and there are too many single-issue voters (which IMHO is the politically correct way of saying politically ignorant) to take a firm pro-choice stance.

We have three years to mull it over. I would support her over any Republican, but that's not saying much.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:42 PM
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31. I'm getting this loving a third party feeling in my guts. n/t
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hezekkia Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:26 PM
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36. yeah, that'll do a LOT of good.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:26 PM by hezekkia
let's hand the country to the rethugs without a fight. lets just vote Green and screw abortion rights, any chance at ever gaining equality for homosexuals, fiscal discipline, or a sane foreign policy! sounds like a brilliant plan.

:eyes:
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:32 PM
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37. What the hell is the matter with these RICH democrats? Hint!
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:33 PM by ElectroPrincess
There's no way in hell Hillary has a chance to win. Damn these already wealthy Democrats who don't give a damn if our entire party is sold out by their shameless promotion of inane candidates. Damn them to hell! They are *drunk* with privilege.

They no longer represent the working class in the USA.

Sick, bloated, wealthy, placated, sell-out bastards :(
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:22 AM
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39. Brought to you by the "Kerry is the most electable" crowd.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:34 AM
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40. how unique that Joe Biden was talking similar today, too
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:20 AM
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45. I think she would be, too, but she can't win the general election. nt
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:29 AM
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47. shut up bill n/t
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:52 AM
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48. It's on....It's so on....
Watching this dance is going to be so entertaining over the next four years.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:46 PM
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53. NO NO NO Republican lite!
She just voted to side with the credit card companies on a bankruptcy bill.

She helped Indian outsourcing companies get a foothold in the US
who now take American jobs.

NO NO NO NO NO!

We absolutely do not need yet another politician from the corporate
party...

while Clinton was brilliant, unlike our dumb as a box of rocks neocon
group...they are cut from the same cloth...

the corporate party.

Anyone aware of just how badly Clinton sold out the working class?

He signed NAFTA, when he said he wouldn't and probably THE most
damaging thing he did was push the CHINA PNTR (free trade)

Look at what's happened...China now has our jobs, our intellectual secrets our industry...

and they IGNORED any human rights and environmental abuses by China...

I mean, basically they let a totalitarian regime obtain so much
power they were ellipse the US economy in a matter of years.

NO NO NO NO NO.
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UTdem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:22 PM
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58. "NO NO NO Republican lite!"
Well said Robert.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:00 PM
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56. Go, Hillary, Go!
Yay!

Hillary '08
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:17 PM
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57. Gee! Let's all get excited about 2008!
Wooo hooo!
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