U.S. Forces May Have Beaten Iraqi General

[Career Prole]

FORT CARSON, Colo. - Previously secret court testimony indicates an Iraqi general imprisoned by U.S. forces was badly bruised and may have been severely beaten two days before he died of suffocation during interrogation.

References to the alleged beating appear in a transcript, released under court order, from a military preliminary hearing for three soldiers charged with murder and dereliction of duty in the death of Maj. Gen. Abed Mowhoush on Nov. 26, 2003. A fourth soldier faces the same charges but waived a hearing.

During the interrogation, Army prosecutors claim Mowhoush was put headfirst into a sleeping bag, wrapped with electrical cord and knocked down before the soldiers sat and stood on him, prosecutors said. The cause of death was determined to be suffocation.

The defendants — Chief Warrant Officers Lewis Welshofer and Jefferson Williams, Sgt. 1st Class William Sommer and Spc. Jerry Loper — have all denied wrongdoing, saying commanders had sanctioned their actions.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=4&u=/ap/20050402/ap_on_re_us/prisoner_abuse&sid=84439559

And the Pentagon always says "rogue agents"..."loose cannons"..."bad actors".

They all have one thing in common...

"My boss said it was okay."
:grr:

[drummer55]

1. sounds familar huh? same fascism different era.

[democrank]

2. Quite a collection of "loose cannons".....

doing the bidding of their chickenhawk bully boy. But wait....we`re spreading freedom. Just plain sickening.

[hippiepunk]

3. but there not white so its ok

[Career Prole]

4. Welcome to DU, hippiepunk!

:hi:

[hippiepunk]

15. Thanks

[mike_c]

5. when will the soldiers get the clue...

...that command is not going to stand up for them when they get caught committing war crimes, even if they WERE following orders?

[madrchsod]

6. if the iraqs get one of our guys

i guess we really can`t say anything when they cut off his head. in some way the beating to death of a iraqi general is worse than the beheading of a us general-there is dignity in killing one with a sword.

[Career Prole]

7. Sadly, if it happens it won't happen to a general.

It'll be some kid who was looking to pay his college tuition. :(

[Auntie Bush]

9. Or maybe some women after she is raped etc or some innocent

tourist. I wouldn't want to be working for Halliburton. Bet they are in someones crosshairs.

[Rose Siding]

8. Sanction for illegal/immoral acts is IRRELEVANT

WHY don't they understand that :cry:

[Career Prole]

10. They'll understand it the day the sanctioners face justice.

I guess that means never. :cry:

[LynnTheDem]

11. WORSE than Saddam Hussein.

What difference between Nazis and these US troops? QUANTITY?

[UpInArms]

12. National security cited in murder case

http://www.gazette.com/war/1203warx.html

Dec. 3, 2004
Soldiers’ hearing is closed

The public won’t learn why the government has charged three Fort Carson soldiers with murder in the death of an Iraqi major general, a hearing officer at the post ruled Thursday.

The officer blocked public access to the twoday evidence hearing that started Thursday for the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment soldiers. Capt. Robert Ayers said his decision was based on the need to protect national security and the safety of the defendants.

“I do find that the government’s interests outweigh the interests of the public,” Ayers said before he closed the evidence hearing.

<snip>

Mowhoush had been a top target for American troops for weeks and was a suspected leader of Iraqi guerrillas.

His capture was heralded by the regiment. His demise was noted, too, with a public statement claiming that the general has died of natural causes while in custody.

...more...

National Interests?

Murder and torture :banghead:

[Career Prole]

14. Wow! Excellent, UIA!

Way to piece it together! :yourock:

[frictionlessO]

18. Way to tie it in, UIA. Natural causes never looked so brutal.

Sadly all the piggies are really starting to look the same.

Iraq is Animal Farm.

[Voltaire99]

21. Pathetic, isn't it. (n/t)

[VegasWolf]

13. In other news, sun may have come up yesterday. n/t

[icymist]

16. Yet another example of Bush's 'culture of life'.

n/t

[struggle4progress]

17. Rush must have been assiociated with some criminal fraternities.

[Lori Price CLG]

19. U.S. forces may have beaten Iraqi general

U.S. forces may have beaten Iraqi general

FORT CARSON, Colo. — Previously secret court testimony indicates an Iraqi general imprisoned by U.S. forces was badly bruised and may have been severely beaten two days before he died of suffocation during interrogation (torture).

References to the alleged beating appear in a transcript, released under court order, from a military preliminary hearing for three soldiers charged with murder and dereliction of duty in the death of Maj. Gen. Abed Mowhoush on Nov. 26, 2003. A fourth soldier faces the same charges but waived a hearing.

<snip>

Lori Price

[democracyindanger]

20. "May have"?

I guess he got the bruises when he, you know, fell down on his own.

[truthisfreedom]

22. this is what happens when you fool your military into believing they are

fighting the people responsible for 9-11. this is what happens when you lie to them over and over again. this is what happens when you characterize "brown people" from the mideast as godless terrorists. this is what happens when you completely dehumanize an enemy for the purpose of creating psychopathic monsters of your own fighters. this is what happens when you let someone into the white house who has no knowledge of people, cultures, or history. this is what happens when greedy freaks fix elections and nobody does a damned thing about it.

we have to do something about it. something different from what we've been doing so far. and we have to do it in such numbers that it becomes the one thing that WILL NOT LEAVE THE FRONT PAGES. if we put our heads together, we can figure this thing out.

[Career Prole]

23. Good post, tif!

And a good reason to be angry. :thumbsup: