G.O.P. Consultant's Marriage Is a Gay One

[ruggerson]

This is a jawdropper.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/09/politics/09finkelstein.html?
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<snip>

By ADAM NAGOURNEY

Published: April 9, 2005

WASHINGTON, April 8 - Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant who has directed a series of hard-edged political campaigns to elect conservatives in the United States and Israel over the last 25 years, said Friday that he had married his male partner in a civil ceremony at his home in Massachusetts.

Mr. Finkelstein, 59, who has made a practice of defeating Democrats by trying to demonize them as liberal, said in a brief interview that he had married his partner of 40 years to ensure that the couple had the same benefits available to married heterosexual couples.

"I believe that visitation rights, health care benefits and other human relationship contracts that are taken for granted by all married people should be available to partners," he said.

He declined further comment on the wedding, which was in December.

<snip>

[Skittles]

1. a republican hypocrite

STOP THE PRESSES

[brainshrub]

76. Is there any other type of republican?

[Orangepeel]

2. selfish bastard

it doesn't matter what happens to anyone else, as long as you've got your rights. Of course he's a republican.

[sonicx]

3. Chickens for the Colonel. nt

[applegrove]

4. There is nothing in the books that says a homosexual male cannot

also be a cold, sadistic, rule-maker (hypocrite). Sociopaths come in all sorts and sizes.

[Flubadubya]

31. You conveniently leave out one important fact...

He is a REPUBLICAN cold, sadistic, hypocritical sociopath!

I think the REPUBLICAN part is more germane to the problem than the fact that he is homosexual.

My you do have a way with words, though! :puke:

[applegrove]

35. I agree. But the same goes. There is nothing about being homosexual

that says you cannot be a Republican.

[Flubadubya]

36. But your emphasis is on his being "homosexual"...

as you juxtapose all those atrocious qualities to the fact that he is gay. You don't even mention his being "Republican". This is where I think you spin the issue considerably.

I would tend to think it is his "republican nature" that makes him such a lout as opposed to his being gay.

[applegrove]

43. I hear you.. I am tired. I think we are talking at cross purposes. I

consider myself to be completely without predjudice when it comes to such issues. My emphasis may be wrong. Or the order of my words. I do not have the brain to go back and correct myself as I am tired.

Sorry if I offended.

[varun]

5. Freepers are freaking out

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380214/posts

"...If he's suppose to be so "prominent", how come I've never heard of him? If he's suppose to be conservative, what's he doing in a liberal interview admitting he's a sexually dysfunctional pervert?
With friends like that, who needs enemies? Fire this freak!

41 posted on 04/08/2005 7:50:17 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)..."

[NashVegas]

8. Cognitive Dissonance Personified

"I admire their 40 years together; I appreciate that one can have a love of one's life and mutual support. I prefer to file this under taking available legal steps to protect one's family and loved ones. The article doesn't say that these men believe that the culture should change. The article doesn't quote them as saying domestic partnership laws would not have been adequate for their purpose."

[tanyev]

37. Oh wow.

He's the "Stop Hillary Now" guy? We need to spread this far and wide.

[warrens]

66. Ah, the hate, the anguish, the mindless spewing

That's our pinhead Freepers. Bless their pointed little heads.

[PartyPooper]

6. This is unbelievable! Is this dude a member of the LCR's?

If so, he's such a despicable piece of crap!

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

7. He should be shunned

He should be shunned in the gay community. After all, he is supporting a political party that wants to take away the rights of gays.

[BobbyinPortland]

41. I shun all gay republicans

being a gay republican is like a black man/woman becoming a member of the KKK, they might tolerate you, but they still hate your fucking guts and when the last one of your kind is gotten rid of, you're next.

[Psephos]

47. Shunning based on membership in a group is the definition of bigotry

Just a thought. People deserve to be evaluated individually.

Peace.

[Boomer]

64. He's part of a group that defines his values

Which is a bit different than being a member of a group that you can't change -- like your ethnic affiliation, race or the nation in which you were born.

[Psephos]

68. Political leaning has a strong genetic component

If you think that a group label is more important than individual characteristics, we will not find much common ground.

It's not completely genetic, but identical-twin studies have shown that personality and cognitive style are strongly correlated to genes. Personal experiences can enhance or suppress certain aspects of one's personality, and in extreme circumstances introduce unexpressed pathologies...but whether one is shy or extraverted, pensive or sensorial, curious or content, is in large part a genetic determination. The same goes for athletic skills, too, which are also a brain function (it's funny, no one seems to argue about this).

Political affiliation shows high correlation with certain cognitive and personality styles. With an accurate personality test in hand, a good psychologist can predict political leaning correctly four out of five times.

We are not slaves to our genes, and we have the choice of joining or not joining certain groups, but our predilection for the groups we join - that is, the groups that seem sensible to us and harmonious with our values - is governed at least as much by our biology as by our upbringing. Not so long ago, most people (including a lot of gays) thought that homosexual identity was a choice. We know better now, but that knowledge came through science, not through political philosophy.

I am obviously predisposed to left thinking, but I also know that if conservative thinking was universally bad, it would have been edited out of the human genome long ago. (It takes a bit of courage to say that, but I refuse to let my politics dictate my science.) The truth is that human communities need some members with a traditionalist point of view, and some with a progressive point of view. We need some to be hunters and others to be gatherers. We need some people with an eye for detail and a focus on the here-and-now, and we need dreamers who imagine things they can't see (now we call them ADD). We need all kinds of people because in prehistoric times, before books and technology and metal and all the rest, the greatest resource a tribe of humans had was to adapt to whatever the local circumstances were, whatever the local dangers were. A complex range of threats endangered early humans, and flexibility of response was literally a matter of life or death.

I see no evidence in history that either leftists or wingnuts have ever had all the answers. That's why dogma is such a bad word.

I stand by my earlier position: every human deserves to be evaluated on their individual merits. Prejudging people by their label is, by definition, prejudice.

Peace.

[Boomer]

71. Some very good points

I don't disagree with any of your major points, and in fact I've often argued a similar theory about the need for a balance of personality types in any society. It provides the psychological checks and balances that a group needs to survive variable conditions.

All that being said, most of the condemnation of this particular man is based on his specific individual actions. He's not JUST a Log Cabin Republican, he is also an active promoter of values which are detrimental to the group to which belongs. And he has taken advantage of adoption and marriage rights, even though he works against those very benefits in supporting candidates that want to prohibit them.

So, I'll grant you that blanket condemnation of any gay Republican is probably unjustified, but condemnation of this particular gay Republican is valid criticism.

[Psephos]

73. You also make a great point

Specifically, that you have gone beyond the label and examined the individual circumstances to arrive at your opinion.

Boomer, interacting with people like you is what brought me to DU in the first place.

Peace.

[usregimechange]

9. kick

[Placebo]

10. G.O.P. Consultant's Marriage Is a Gay One

Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant who has directed a series of hard-edged political campaigns to elect conservatives in the United States and Israel over the last 25 years, said Friday that he had married his male partner in a civil ceremony at his home in Massachusetts.

Mr. Finkelstein, 59, who has made a practice of defeating Democrats by trying to demonize them as liberal, said in a brief interview that he had married his partner of 40 years to ensure that the couple had the same benefits available to married heterosexual couples.

"I believe that visitation rights, health care benefits and other human relationship contracts that are taken for granted by all married people should be available to partners," he said. He declined further comment on the wedding, which was in December.

Some of Mr. Finkelstein's associates said they were startled to learn that this prominent American conservative had married a man, given his history with the party, especially at a time when many Republican leaders, including President Bush, have campaigned against same-sex marriage and proposed amending the Constitution to ban it. Mr. Finkelstein has been allied over the years with Republicans who have fiercely opposed gay rights measures, including former Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina, and has been the subject of attacks by gay rights activists who have accused him of hypocrisy. He was identified as gay in a Boston Magazine article in 1996.

More...

Oy vey.

[vogonjiltz]

11. Gosh what a hypocrit, Ican't think of anything else. nt

[Stephanie]

12. Hypocrisy Thy Name is Republican

It's just endless. There's no point in even pointing it out any more. We should start pointing out instances where they are NOT hypocritical. It would take a lot less time.

[wellst0nev0ter]

19. Not Hypocrisy, Just Afrikaaner Socialism

Big government protected privileges are perfectly ok, as long as you are the "right people".

[mac56]

13. One set of rules for us...

another for all you poor losers.

[Liberal Veteran]

14. What a self-centered selfish bastard....

If there was ever a case of "I've got mine, so fuck the rest of you" this is it.

[CoffeeCat]

15. This is like Willy Wonka lobbying against the sugar industry...

I really don't get this.

At all.

It defies...well, everything.

This man must really hate himself. He's devoted his life to campaigning against his own identity and his own soul.

Beyond bizarre.

[RPM]

28. I want to laugh....

You're analogy is hilarious.

Yet, I am so disgusted with this man - self-hating is the tip of the iceberg.

[MsTryska]

32. hee - i just made a thread about this in GD.....

i don't think it's superhypocritical - i think it's great for these reasons:


1. He's an out of the closet republican

2. He's acxtually gone ahead and gotten married, despite his career as a republican stooge.

3. He's willing to talk about it in the press, and uses exactly the correct sentiment to further Equal Rights for all people.


In other words, despite being a republican stooge, he is being true to himself and his partner.


More power to him.

[JoFerret]

39. Yet work full time to deny the same

rights for others.

[Ms. Toad]

44. Has he worked against same gender marriage?

I don't count working for the Republican party (with which he apparently mostly agrees) as working to deny same gender marriage (a particular plank his actions would suggest he opposes). If I did, I would have to call myself hypocritical because I worked to get Kerry elected (with whom I mostly agree) and he has publicly opposed my right to marry (a particular position with which I disagree).

I am having a good laugh at what I am sure is massive Republican discomfort - but until I hear that he worked specifically against same gender marriage I can't say the act of getting married is hypocritical.

[foreigncorrespondent]

61. Yes!

"Has he worked against same gender marriage?"

By working to get repukes who oppose gay marriage elected.

[Ms. Toad]

63. Well . . .

I worked to get Kerry elected, and Kerry also opposes gay marriage. I voted for Clinton twice, and he signed the Federal DOMA bill into law. I guess that means I worked against same gender marriage as well.

Since I have been married to a woman for 23+ years, that makes me a pretty big hypocrite.

Given that neither major party is where it should be on gay marriage, I just don't buy that working for either party necessarily means you agree with either party's very similar planks on gay marriage.

[foreigncorrespondent]

67. I know...

...a hell of a lot of queers who worked very hard to get Kerry elected, but the alternative (Bush*) was a nightmare.

I also know lots of queers who voted for Clinton twice, my partner included.

Now, when you look at the difference between both parties in relation to gay rights, we soon see that the repukes are not our friends. Now, when you have a queer person working to get repukes who in turn stall a lot of much needed gay rights laws in both houses, then that is where the hypocrisy begins.

This man is enjoying life with his new husband thanks to those on the left who worked tirelessly to get marriage laws passed, while my partner and I live 8,000 miles apart thanks to repukes stalling the PPIA in both houses.

I am not questioning you for wanting anyone but Bush*. What I am doing is questioning the ethics of a man who enjoys rights given to him by the hard work of the left, all the while fucking the rest of us over.

[foreigncorrespondent]

59. How nice...

...in the mean time, thanks to this jerk, my partner and I don't get to see one anther on a daily basis. You see, it is the repukes stalling the passing of the PPIA.

More power to him? I truly believe he (like all republicans) have far too much power. I for one want jerks like this to have LESS power.

Since reading this article I have been sitting here in tears, why? Because he does get to go home to his parter every night. He does get to spend weekends with his partner. Now he is enjoying rights the LEFT brought him, while the rest of us are constantly told to shut up and sit on the back of the bus.

[MsTryska]

70. You and your partner should move to Massachusetts and get married.

what is the hold up with your situation?

[foreigncorrespondent]

74. Not at all!

Immigration laws are federal laws. So we could go get married but because the federal governemnt still refuses to recognize the validity of same sex relationships I would still end up being deported.

[MsTryska]

75. Oh....that sucks...

i didn't realize there was a green card situation involved. What about Canada? or Amsterdam?

[MADem]

16. Oi vey is right!!!

How can that guy live with himself? More to the point, how can his partner bear to 'better or worse' with such a raging, self-serving, clearly self-driven hypocrite?

Ah, the "ME" generation. No scruples. No soul. No compassion.

[shanti]

17. republicans

the party of hypocrisy....for shame!!

[countmyvote4real]

18. A whore is a whore is a whore.

Of all people, Finkelstein, should know better.

[readermostly]

20. I checked Fox News tonight

I may have missed this (Fox News -especially that screaming mimi Sean Hannity and the arrogant Bill O and the others), but I didn't see this conservative republican's marriage mentioned. Did I miss something?

[katsy]

21. Is it hypocrisy?

Or have both parties engaged these "whores" to develop media circuses?

These people are nothing but directors setting a stage for the numbed masses... much like jury consultants. They get paid big bucks putting on a show.

Dems should step up to the cameras and congratulate him and the pukes for standing up for homosexual rights (loudly and often). Play this up Dems! Be nice... be loud!

Congrats Mr. Finkelstein!

:applause:

Did you hear that you rw hypocritical christo-fascists???

:rofl:

[daleo]

22. The Republicans will criticize Kerry for this.

After all, he is the senator from Massachusetts. Something about this must be his fault, just as it was in the case with Cheney's daughter being gay, during the debate.

Don't ask me how.

[WindRavenX]

23. Am I the only one who is giggling at the headline?

I mean, jeez...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

24. The man comes from an era where repression was the order

so it seems natural to him to repress others....as long as he isn't.

[theHandpuppet]

25. I don't agree

"The man comes from an era whern repression was the order"? Mr Finkelstein is just six years older than me and about the same age as my sis. He came from an era which saw the full flower of the Civil Rights movement, groundswell opposition to the Vietnam war, and a social revolution which gave rise to so many other fights against repression and oppression. I don't know where Mr Finlkelstein was or what he was doing while all that was going on, but I was protesting in the streets.

Had Mr. Finkelstein been just a bit older, yes, he would have spent his youth influenced by the echoes of McCarthyism, but at 59 he would still have been in high school when MLK marched on Washington. So there's really no excuse whatsoever for him to play the "Roy Cohn" card as a mere product of his era.

There's a notorious term for collaborators like Mr Finkelstein and their ilk to be found within the gay community -- CAPO.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

45. Hey I'm 12 years younger than him and cops were hassling us in

GAY bars still in the eighties

[TaleWgnDg]

26. This is nothing new . . . Arthur Finkelstein is gay. It's well-known.

.
This is nothing new . . . Arthur Finkelstein is gay. It's well-known. Allegedly, he's been in a long-standing homosexual relationship for many years. He has two adopted kids within that relationship. He resides in Massachusetts. What is *new* is that Finkelstein allegedly married his gay partner.

All that being said does not obviate the fact that Arthur Finkelstein is an unscrupulous hypocrite working for politicians who bash and demonize gays. As such, he's scum. Pure unadulterated scum. However, this, too, is not unique in today's politics. Low-lifes, scum, and people with no character or morals, such as Finkelstein, abound in the so-called neocon political bent.

google: "Arthur J. Finkelstein & Associates, Inc."
google: "Arthur J. Finkelstein"
google: Finkelstein Massachusetts Republican

For example, see: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/news/9610/10/karl.finkelstein/index.shtml (this is a 1996 CNN article) . . . and . . .

http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchSummary.asp?ReadFromDB=True&UpdateAllowed=&FEIN=132734785 (MA Secty of State, corporate filings url)

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Here's another DU thread on this topic: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3451499

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[robcon]

27. Good for Finkelstein!

It's what we need. Like Nixon in China and Clinton on Welfare Reform, the best way to change attitudes, and maybe policy, is to have the change come from an unexpected source... for more rightwingers to have same sex marriages.

[Psephos]

51. Very good point n/t

[LizW]

29. This is typical of life in Republican America

There is a social, political and economic apartheid where there's one set of rules for the rich and connected and another for the rest of us.

Examples: Bob Barr on abortion. Bill Bennett on morality in general. Gingrich on marriage. Rush Limbaugh on drugs. Bush (and other neocons) on military service. Santorum on limiting access to the civil courts. Practically every Republican in government on honesty and open government.

Do as they say, and don't question what they do, because it's their right as the ruling elites.

[truthisfreedom]

30. his name should come up during the next few pseudo-press conferences

with "scott." i hope "scott" gets stuck.

[AngryAmish]

33. He must be destroyed

Collaborator.

[UTUSN]

34. If They're Repukes, There's Something Wrong with Them, So

it's not the marriage or the Gayness, it's the jerks IN the marriage.

[BiggJawn]

38. Come out of the Log Cabin, Art...

A Gay ReTHUGlican.....I will NEVER understand them.

That's like "Jews for Hitler", or "The KKK Negro Auxillary"

Guess Finkelstein's got enough wealth that he feels welcome in a nest of snakes who would hate him if he was poor....

[Orsino]

40. "Two Americas"

June Cleaver trumps loving, committed individuals who have to live in the real world.

I can only hope that Finkelstein feels his share of the pain he has helped to spread.

[Misunderestimator]

42. Love the way he says "human relationships contracts" so he can

pretend that the federal financial benefits aren't important. We need a term for men like this... how about Uncle Mary?

[Placebo]

53. That's great.

:yourock: "Uncle Mary" :yourock:

[Misunderestimator]

54. Hehe... that or Uncle Dorothy.

:)

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

46. "It's okay if you're a Republican."

Paul Krugman was right. At least I think it was Krugman. If it wasn't, someone correct me.

[papau]

48. G.O.P. Consultant (to anti-gay GOPers) Weds His Male Partner

Proving once again that there is NO end to the hypocrisy of these pit-bull Republicans -"Mr. Finkelstein has been ALLIED over the years with Republicans who have FIERCELY OPPOSED GAY RIGHTS measures, including former Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina" -"the same man who was the architect of Jesse Helms's political rise." - "Mr. Finkelstein has frequently come under criticism by gay rights groups for REPRESENTING politicians who have been ARDENT FOES OF GAY RIGHTS."

G.O.P. Consultant Weds His Male Partner
by ADAM NAGOURNEY
The New York Times
April 9, 2005

WASHINGTON, April 8 - Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant who has directed a series of hard-edged political campaigns to elect conservatives in the United States and Israel over the last 25 years, said Friday that he had MARRIED his male partner in a civil ceremony at his home in Massachusetts.

Mr. Finkelstein, 59, who has made a practice of defeating Democrats by trying to demonize them as liberal, said in a brief interview that he had MARRIED his partner of 40 years to ensure that the couple had the same benefits available to married heterosexual couples.

"I believe that visitation rights, health care benefits and other human relationship contracts that are taken for granted by all married people should be available to partners," he said. <snip>

Some of Mr. Finkelstein's associates said they were startled to learn that this prominent American conservative had MARRIED a man, given his history with the party, especially at a time when many Republican leaders, including President Bush, have campaigned AGAINST same-sex MARRIAGE and PROPOSED AMENDING the Constitution to BAN it. Mr. Finkelstein has been ALLIED over the years with Republicans who have FIERCELY OPPOSED GAY RIGHTS measures, including former Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina, and has been the subject of attacks by gay rights activists who have accused him of hypocrisy. He was identified as gay in a Boston Magazine article in 1996 (which reported that Mr. Finkelstein lived with his partner and two children in Ipswich, Mass.). <snip>

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/09/politics/09finkelstein.html?

[yurbud]

49. PRINT AND MAIL TO RELIGIOUS RIGHT GROUPS

It will have no effect on the leaders, but will start some talk between the peons who open the mail.

It's a PR trick called viral marketing. It's only unethical if the virus isn't true.

[yurbud]

55. CONTACT INFO for a couple of fundamentalist groups

When you contact these people, it would be better to do so as hurt and confused followers.

It would hurt to mention a couple of the other gay GOP gay bashers like
Ken Mehlman and of course Bush himself.

Bush's "purty mouth comment" in Canada
http://www.rense.com/general47/bushsmitten.htm

Bush's special friend from Skull & Bones
http://poland.indymedia.org/pl/2004/09/9014.shtml

Male prostitutes in Bush Sr. White House
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm

Male prostitute in Baby Bush White House:



More info on Gannon, the man ho:

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/man-called-jeff.html

Who to share this with

Center For Reclaiming America
P.O. Box 632
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33302

Dr. James Kennedy
Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church
5555 N. Federal Hwy,
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33308

Fred Phelps
(of "God Hates Fags" fame)
3701 Sw 12th St
Topeka, KS 66604-1730


Lou Sheldon
Traditional Values Coalition
100 S. Anaheim Boulevard, Suite 350
Anaheim, CA 92805

Family First
645 M Street - Suite 21
Lincoln, NE 68508 (anti-gay marriage)



Jerry Falwell
Liberty University
1971 University Boulevard
Lynchburg, Virginia 24502


Dr. James Dobson
Focus on the Family
(street address not required)
Colorado Springs, CO 80995

Holland, MI.
Family Research Council
11311 James Street
Holland, MI 49424
OR
Washington, D.C.
Family Research Council
801 G Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001


Wheaton College
501 College Avenue
Wheaton, Illinois
60187-5593



Crystal Cathedral
12141 Lewis Street
Garden Grove, CA 92840


Benny Hinn Ministries
U.S.A.
P.O. Box 162000
Irving, Texas 75016-2000

[Behind the Aegis]

50. Disgusting!

Typical piece of shit! As long as he gets his "rights" then it is OK, but fuck everyone else. Sounds like a Rethug! If gays had equal standing in this nation, I wouldn't be opposed to gays in the Rethug party, but considering they are part of a party that wants to destroy our changes at equal rights...fuck them!

I hope this fucker reads up on WWII. The gays in the 3rd Reich were given good jobs and once they had captured other gays for the Reich, they (the cushy gays) got the same 'reward' in the end!

Fucking traitor! He is an "Uncle Roy!" (As in Roy Cohen!)

[renaissanceguy]

57. Just like Jews for Hitler.

Self-hating, trying to blend in with the rest just because they can't handle being themselves. They don't appreciate the people who are working hard for THEIR rights. They should all rot in hell.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.20383992

[Behind the Aegis]

60. I agree!!!

They want "their" rights, but screw the rest of us! People like this are scum!

[Boomer]

65. More like the kapos

Jews who worked with the concentration camp guards to keep down the inmates. Kapos got special privileges for oppressing their own people.

[Joey Liberal]

52. Fucking Right Wing Hypocrite

The republicans make me sick.

[foreigncorrespondent]

56. How nice for you, Mr. Finkelstein!

In the mean time, my parter and I cannot enjoy those same benefits because you have been working against us.

You have dedicated your life to getting conservatives elected who refuse to sign the PPIA, which means, my partner and I will never be able to settle down in her birth country.

But it truly is nice to know, that you and your partner of 40 years are enjoying laws which people on the LEFT fought the good fight to get.

You are nothing but low life scum!

On edit: typo!

[Placebo]

58. Sing it sister!

:applause:

[despairing optimist]

62. This is great. Show the country the Republicans don't stand for anything

They used to stand for personal freedom, limited government, fiscal restraint, states' rights, strict reading of the Constitution. They even campaigned as recently as the last election for family values and the defense of heterosexual marriage against the onslaught of the gay heathen. Then came Terri Schiavo, Tom DeLay, and now Arthur FINKelstein and his SO and their need to give a big heave-ho to everything Fink had been working for in his party up to their Massachusetts moment.

I love it. Bring it on!

[SnowBack]

69. He needs to "meet" Jeff Gannon...

Since both of em are Uncle Toms working against the GLBT community...

Seems to me they would probably enjoy doing to each other what they've been doing to us....

:grr:

[FlyByNight]

72. Sickening.

Not the marriage; the hypocrisy.

It seems the Republicans are, at once, the gayest and most anti-gay group in the country. :wtf:

How does this guy reconcile his past consulting behavior with his marriage? Mr. Finkelstein seems really detached from his actions.