Bush picks brains of Clinton, father

[DoYouEverWonder]

April 09, 2005

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE -- President Bush solicited foreign policy advice from former President Bill Clinton at CIA briefings this week and even told Mr. Clinton that he liked his approach to reforming Social Security.

"It was really a lot of fun," Mr. Bush told reporters yesterday after spending three days with Mr. Clinton and former President George Bush in Rome.

"These CIA briefings a lot of time prompt policy discussions," he added. "It's interesting to get their points of view about their experiences in particular countries."

<snip>

By pairing Mr. Clinton with his father, Mr. Bush has drawn both predecessors back into the orbit of the White House after years in which they generally stayed away -- at least publicly. It also has allowed Mr. Bush to do something he has strenuously avoided since taking office -- acknowledging that he sometimes sounds out his father on foreign policy questions.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050408-112333-6132r.htm


Maybe Bush should stick to just picking his nose?

[patricia92243]

1. His dad had enough sense not to get bogged down in Iraq. Too bad his son

doesn't take his advice.

[truthisfreedom]

2. analysis:

"These CIA briefings a lot of time prompt policy discussions," he added. "It's interesting to get their points of view about their experiences in particular countries."


1] these CIA briefings a lot of time.

meaning: these CIA briefings bore the f*** out of me, and i usually can't focus so i pretend that they're irritating me instead.

2] prompt policy discussions.

meaning: everybody tries to explain what the CIA is trying to tell me all the time and that just irritates me more.

3] it's interesting to get their points of view about their experiences.

meaning: my father and President Clinton (the last elected President of the United States) take it real slow to explain it to me what it's really like to interact with leaders of other countries, rather than just bully them.

4] in particular countries.

meaning: i'm amazed at how many countries there are! and at how complexly they all interact! it almost seems to make sense to my dad and the Clenis... it's like they actually get all that stuff. i have to make like i get it too... i think people are starting to see through my bully act. i think that happened in college too, but those guys are dead now.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Maybe that's why Clinton

hitched a ride home on a different plane? He couldn't stand Dim Son asking him stupid questions any more.

[Pirate Smile]

13. Who did Clinton ride home with?

[Demit]

3. "It was really a lot of fun"? How old is our prez again?

[pretzel4gore]

6. that says it all...

fortunately, we know geeb (brother of 'jeb' get it?) wasn't elected, and that his henchmen/mediawhores are enemies of the USA, so putting the lot in prison would be 'really a lot of fun'

[all.of.me]

17. 5? 6? no more than that.

[UpInArms]

5. I'd choose Clinton's brain, too,

the one *Co has is faulty.

[rodeodance]

7. i am glad Clinton took another plane home. His association with the

Bushs-esp. Jr--makes me squirmish.

[applegrove]

14. Would you want to fly home with Cardinal Cespuglio (Cesspool).

I mean a smart man like Clinton probably couldn't get the idea that he was sitting beside a man who was against reproductive rights and safe sex in poor places (Bush wants the funding to be 1/3 against such things to score points back home..who cares what it does to the lives of the poor) out of his head. I would not be able to sit there either.

[icymist]

65. Me too. Why is Clinton attaching himself to the Bushes?

My friends and I are beginning to feel uneasy about this.

[radfringe]

8. huh? is Rove's brain all picked out?

"It was really a lot of fun," Mr. Bush told reporters yesterday....

uh-huh, yuk-yuk-yuk - pope funerals are always a jolly event, the pomp, the pagentry, the fun costumes makes it all very festive...

too bad all the families of our dead troops don't have the same attitude when they bury their husbands, sons and daughters... maybe if they did then bush* would attend at least one of them

[IronLionZion]

57. yeah those are way too secretive

they're even flown here in the middle of the night

[Flammable Materials]

9. BRAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNSSSSSS!!!!

[area51]

59. ROTFL.

Damn, you beat me to it. :evilgrin:


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"Prosperity is just around the corner." -- Herbert Hoover
"The economy has turned a corner." -- GW Bush

Herbert Hoover = GW Bush

Neither man cared about the Depression their economic policies created.

[applegrove]

10. They are remaking Bush. First he starts reading newspapers, now

he talks to his father.

The new Bush will be Mr. Humble. And we will all buy it. My ASS!

[Flammable Materials]

11. He realizes that his "legacy" is effed.

He's waited until the last minute to put on the "Great Uniter" costume.

[smirkymonkey]

64. The day they call him an intellectual is the day I book a

one-way flight to anywhere but here.

[tanyev]

12. Oh, so now he's interested in other people's

points of view? Or he wants to appear as if he's interested in other people's points of view? I bet the only reason he cares is because his poll numbers are so low right now.

[truthisfreedom]

15. he doesn't know what to do, and neither does rove. everything they've

tried lately has failed so they're experimenting with throwing random things at the wall to see if they can make something stick. they've been riding a slippery slope to the manure pile for some time now so you'll notice they try more and more strange approaches in the coming weeks.

[Gin]

16. I agree that they are remaking the shrub.....but......he will never be

more than a twig of a man.

Beam Me Up Scotty!

[Jacobin]

18. Gee, daddy, how do I clean up this big mess I let Cheney make?

[concord]

19. Speaking of Cheney

Where is he??

[Rose Siding]

20. Well...as long as junior's having fun!

[lonestarnot]

21. Good...I hope something rubbed off...but not a chance with this dumb ass!

[gulliver]

22. Did Bush ever take back that "restoring dignity to the White House" stuff?

I don't think so. So what's Clinton doing rubbing elbows with Mr. Dignity? It's one thing to respect your opposition and show grace after a loss, but Clinton is hob-knobbing with the gutter-slimy little asshole who insulted him in 2000 and continues blaming him for everything to this day.

The more respect Clinton shows for Bush, the less respect I have for Clinton. Clinton put Bush in the White House in the first place. We don't need Clinton feigning respect for someone he surely despises just for a few more minutes of limelight.

[ribrepin]

29. Amen

I get more disgusted every time Clinton buddies up with the Bushes.

Didn't the Texas COWBOY ride into Washington DC as the anti-Clinton? I remember the pundits talking about how Bush was the total opposite of Clinton. Let the asshole continue on his current course.

It's probably too late to save the country. With Bush's reelection, I have resigned myself to the U.S. going the way of communist Russia.

[Catt03]

61. This is what they do

they incite the base then turn around and get everything they can monetarily and stay in the limelight.

Remember Hillary and the "white wing conspiracy". She made a believer out of me. Then she becomes lovey dovey with Santorum and DeLay.

It's all a game. It's called "control of the masses".

Doesn't it make you fell pretty silly that you even listen to these people. Thank God for the INTERNET. Maybe we have a real chance to form our own opinions.

[IronLionZion]

58. Clinton is representing our country

Screw W.

Clinton and HW are out there representing our country at the Pope's funeral and after the Tsunami. If anything, I'm glad somebody's doing it since W is such a dumbass. It would be nice if they chose Carter and Hillary to go to Rome while W and Laura stayed home and cleared brush.

[Toots]

23. The first Smart and Adult thing Bush* has ever done IMHO

It always shows intelligence when you ask for advice. I think he was put up to it by his father but the way it is reported it shines the light on Bush*. I suspect the reality of the matter is it was forced upon Bush* by accomidations. The very last thing in the world Bush* would ever do is ask Clinton for advice IMO but not so his dad.

[DS1]

24. How can he restore dignitude to the White House if that nasty

stain-master Clinton is there? :nuke:

:sarcasm:

[BadGimp]

25. fun with words

OKOKOK I have an idea: Fill in the blanks below:

"Comparing himself favorably to Mr. Clinton is the latest in a series of recent moves by Mr. Bush" ...

A: To pull up his cascading poll numbers.

A: To achieve Genius by association.

see how easy it is?

[napi21]

26. I smell a big rat in this Bush/Shrub/Clinton relationship.

I know GHB hated BC when he lost the election to him in 92. I know Shrub & Laura hated the Clintons so much, they wouldn't even go to the Wh until the Clintons were completely gone! I don't know of anything that has transpored that would change their attitude either. This BS of GHWB & BC going on the mission to help the Tsunami victims was a publicity stunt, at least on GHWB's side, but I really don't understand why BC even flew over to Rome on AF1. That's a damn long flight, even if it is on your own private jumbo jet! It's a VERY LONG TIME to have to be captive in a "republican" airplane! Not to mention, having to be one on one with Shrub!

Somethings going on here, and I don't like it.

[ray of light]

56. Maybe sitting in Bill Clinton's aura will give GWB some common sense.

Well, don't be too disappointed in this. Bush may gain a few more brain cells from sitting near Bill Clinton. And think of it this way, Bill Clinton got a chance to "rub" Bush's nose in the fact that even after the 's*x' scandal and impeachment, Bush still has to cry, "But Clinton approves of this..."

The Bushies hate Clinton because they will NEVER achieve his standing and greatness. And that will be Clinton's legacy while the "fake morality" of Bush will go down in flames in history.

[daleo]

27. Bush wants to pick up a little reflected glory from Clinton.

Also, he wants to swaddle his dismantling of Social Security in Clinton's image. I hope Clinton makes clear that he doesn't have any use for it.

[Psephos]

28. Clinton supplying advice to *? This is a problem?

I think it's the opposite of a problem. 'Bout time.

Peace.

[Liberty Belle]

30. Bush Picks Brains of Clinton, Father (*Shrub must be getting desperate!)

BUSH PICKS BRAINS OF CLINTON, FATHER

April 9, 2005

By Bill Sammon
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE -- President Bush solicited foreign policy advice from former President Bill Clinton at CIA briefings this week and even told Mr. Clinton that he liked his approach to reforming Social Security.
'It was really a lot of fun, Mr. Bush told reporters yesterday after spending three days with Mr. Clinton and former President George Bush in Rome.
'These CIA briefings a lot of time prompt policy discussions,' he added. 'It's interesting to get their points of view about their experiences in particular countries.'

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050408-112333-6132r.htm

Note: It's amazing what Shrub will do when those poll numbers fall so low! (45% per Gallup, 44% per AP)

[enid602]

31. bush

"It's a lot of fun . . " "It's interesting . . ." God, what an orator.

[Dogmudgeon]

32. Life Imitates Art

Earlier this season, there was a sketch on Saturday Night Live where Poppy, Clinton, and W (played by Fred Armisen, Darrell Hammond, and Will Forte respectively) were holding a press conference about extending aid to the victims of the recent tsunami that hit Indonesia. As W would sputter out, Clinton would step in and take over, until he was completely in control of the press conference, W was saying, "Yeah! What HE said!", and the women in the press pool were swooning.

It was hilarious. It may be downloadable by now. And as of this week, it is true.

--p!

[Liberty Belle]

34. How funny! If only shrub would listen to Clinton, but he's

just using Big Bill, unfortunately.

[Dogmudgeon]

38. Let him use Big Dog

Needing the advice of Clinton is reward enough.

With each photo-op he takes with Clinton, Dubya just reinforces the message that he's a pisher following in the footsteps of a Leader.

By the way. how many of his prosecutors on the House impeachment committee are still in office? Or even have a decent reputation?

Let Clinton give ... until it hurts ... the Republican Rectal Right.

--p!

[rodeodance]

47. oh but Jr. had a "lot of fun"--this story says he spent 3 days with Clinto

but-we have read heard that they parted ways for the most part after the viewing of the Pope.


'It was really a lot of fun, Mr. Bush told reporters yesterday after spending three days with Mr. Clinton and former President George Bush in Rome.

[rodeodance]

48. Guestion-Is Jr. saying that he uses Clinton's language or is it the other

way around in this section?


... 'I was telling President Clinton I remember watching one of his town hall meetings in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on this very subject,' Mr. Bush said just hours after bidding farewell to his predecessor at the Rome airport.
'And I thought it was a very impressive presentation,' he added. 'By the way, a lot of the language happens to be pretty close to some of the town hall meetings we've had.'......

[still_one]

33. screw um, and screw clinton too if he helps them

after what they put him through, and after everyone, but the PNAC jerks told him NOT to go into iraq. He made his bed let him, and those that allowed the jerk to get elected, sleep in it

50% of the people that were eligible to vote in 2004 didn't

[FLPolitico]

36. Both Clintons are self-serving political whores............

after watching Bill tag along with the official delegation with the Bush cabal to the Pope's funeral I am more convinced than ever that Bill's nothing but a GOP lacky. If he had any class ( and a bit of vendictiveness) he would have allowed Carter to take his place since Carter promoted peace and is in that sense had a lot in common with the Pope.

If we didn't need her senate seat so badly I wouldn't mind seeing Centrist Hillary lose next year. LOL

[Dogmudgeon]

40. LOL?

Famous last laughs!

How is it that the whores have been the ones who've gotten the work done?

No, this isn't a sarcastic crack. Bill Clinton is no GOP lackey, and Hillary has single-handedly castrated the NY GOP. What is the secret? I refuse to play into the hipster cynicism that dictates it's all just one big put-on. Because back in 1997, the GOP was looking for some major spilling of blood, and they can't touch either Clinton now.

Bill and Hill are optimistic. They are intelligent. They play hard and play to win. And they play to win cleaner than their opponents. There's more power in those attributes than all the policy they ever promulgated, good and bad alike.

Did the Vatican funeral get your goat? Look at those pictures closely. Bill looks like an adult. Poppy Bush looks a little bit doddering. And Dubya looks like a smacked ass.

Not bad for someone who just tagged along. Hell, I never saw eye-to-eye with Bill when he was the Prez, either, but the man can pull the rug out from under the fools better than anyone in recent memory.

--p!

[Voltaire99]

41. Yes, LOL

You may wish to vote for pro-invasion, flirt-with-controlling-abortion Hillary. But those positions have nothing to do with optimism.

As for "playing hard and playing to win," that's hot air. You could say the same thing about Tom Delay.

Hillary's a right wing sell out. She knew better, once, many years ago, as a young attorney and legal theoretician. But her corrosive marriage and immersion in triangulated, sell-out politics have drained the woman deeply. Look at the husk from New York, and pity her, as she mouths agreement with another Republican plan; but for God's sake, don't be a fool and follow her.

[rodeodance]

46. How is making abortions rare so wrong?

[latebloomer]

55. Because it's nonsense!

Abortion, while legal, could never be "rare." It might be somewhat less common, if sex education and birth control were widely available, but there are far too many situations when abortions are needed. She is pandering to the right, and it bothers me deeply.

[pdurod1]

35. Something is definately up

Bush is too stupid to ask Clinton for advice. This smells like more Rovian adventurism.

[anitar1]

37. And This Is Printed By The Moonie Times. n/t

[shanti]

39. wtf?

it's either "a lot of fun" or "hard work" for chimpy.

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. Or "interesting

You forgot "interesting". "The interesting thing about being pRes is..........." :banghead:

[Bluebear]

42. I thought per his interview that Bush only consults his "heavenly Father"

:crazy:

[Journeyman]

43. Excellent memory, Bluebear. . .

Yeah, you've gotta wonder if Shrub's ticked off his "heavenly Father" by continually using and abusing his good name without following any of his precepts.

[rodeodance]

51. Yes, but now Jr is comparing himself to Clinton (and the Pope) -see this

comment from the article,

.....Comparing himself favorably to Mr. Clinton is the latest in a series of recent moves by Mr. Bush to strengthen relations with the man who vanquished his father in 1992. The thaw comes after years in which Mr. Bush talked of the need to 'restore honor and dignity to the White House' in the post-Clinton era.
Earlier this year, the president dispatched Mr. Clinton to help his father orchestrate relief efforts for tsunami victims in Asia. This week, Mr. Bush brought his two predecessors to Rome on Air Force One for Pope John Paul II's funeral.
By pairing Mr. Clinton with his father, Mr. Bush has drawn both predecessors back into the orbit of the White House after years in which they generally stayed away -- at least publicly. It also has allowed Mr. Bush to do something he has strenuously avoided since taking office -- acknowledging that he sometimes sounds out his father on foreign policy questions.

[TahitiNut]

44. So, Chimpy has named his left and right nostrils? Figures.

:silly:

[rodeodance]

45. Bill C. gave an intelligent response to the question of the Pope's

legacy and all Bush could come up with was often stated platitudes-on the plane over.
They (Andy Card or someone-I will not give credit to Bush) recognized this and had Bush memorize a stronger platitude on the way back.
They know Bill has brains and can outthink Bush INC.
Picking his brains was an apt term. They just might learn something (and they know it).

[Demit]

49. Bush is the only person I've ever heard say, coming back from a funeral,

that "it was fun".

[rodeodance]

50. Question-Does Jr watch Clinton video's to put up his language?

'....I was telling President Clinton I remember watching one of his town hall meetings in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on this very subject,' Mr. Bush said just hours after bidding farewell to his predecessor at the Rome airport.
'And I thought it was a very impressive presentation,' he added. 'By the way, a lot of the language happens to be pretty close to some of the town hall meetings we've had.' .....

[DrZeeLit]

54. Yes, the funeral was a HIGHLIGHT of his administration.... just gives one

pause, doesn't it?

I mean... so many directions to take on that one...where does one even start, beyond picking one's jaw off the floor....

HE'S SUCH A GOOBER!

Pick a brain? He HAS to pick a brain.
Because HE doesn't have one.

SHEEEESH!

[Roland99]

52. Cheap PR stunt to boost sagging approval ratings

[trapper914]

53. Is this accurate?

"The president also praised one of Mr. Clinton's domestic policies -- trying to reform Social Security. Both men have proposed personal savings accounts as part of the solution, an idea that is vociferously opposed by congressional Democrats. "

Did Clinton really propose the private accounts, or did he propose investing some of the trust fund in the private sector?

* is just using Clinton to sell is dismantling of Social Security. Way to exploit the Pope's death, shrub.

[Liberty Belle]

62. I wondered that, too. Does anyone here know?

[skip fox]

63. BREAKING!!! Bush Continues to Maintain He Was Canonized in Secret Ceremony

Story breaking in DU's Lounge. President claimed Pope canonized him during his last visit to the Pope in a hidden room off of his living quarters. "He musta forgot to tell people like he said cause he was old and stuff," the President maintained.

Complete story here:


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