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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:27 AM
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Tories gearing up for election
Last Updated Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:58:59 EDT
CBC News

OTTAWA - The Conservative Party of Canada is telling riding associations to step up efforts to find candidates and raise money, in case testimony at the sponsorship inquiry leads to a snap election, a published report says."

"The Gomery inquiry has heard of cash-filled envelopes being transferred to Liberal party officials in exchange for government contracts. The Bloc Québécois has an opportunity to introduce a non-confidence motion next week...


http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/04/09/gomery050409.html

Inquiry told PMO involved in sponsorship contracts
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/04/08/gomeryt050408.html

Video: http://www.cbc.ca/MRL/clips/rm-lo/lawand_gomery050408.rm
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:35 AM
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1. They're always
gearing up for election. They just never win any. :D
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:36 AM
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2. lol
and what of the NDP then?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:39 AM
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3. They've been waiting
for 60 years. :D

I dunno if we're going to have an election, I sure hope not, but the Tories aren't rising in the polls. Neither are the NDP. The Liberals are simply dropping...and not by as much as I'd thought they would.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:44 AM
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8. I agree, outside of Quebec, Canadians have already
dealt with the scandal during the last election by forcing the Liberals into a minority government position. Even in Quebec,in the latest poll, the PQ picked up only 3 pts, the Greens picked up the other 2 of the 5 that the Liberals have lost.

If another election is forced by the opposition so soon after the last one, Canadians may well take it out on the party that forced it rather than the Liberals again.

I am not getting any sense that Canadians want another election now. In fact, there seems to be a 'lets move on' with regard to the sponsorship scandal and it is now being seen as an issue being pushed for political expediency rather than any real moral outrage by the opposition.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:47 AM
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9. I think a boredom factor
has set in. We've been drowned in it, and yet there's really nothing new coming out. Nothing we didn't already know, or guess at.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 05:53 PM
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14. Your optimism is excessive.
Suspicions were priced into the political market. The reality of the depth and scale of the issue has not been.

At any rate, the opposition has been planning for what happens if the Liberals call a snap election themselves, too.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:40 AM
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4. What about the Green Party. n/t
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:42 AM
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6. Green party is fringe
Not even one MP. I think most people regard it like the Marijuana party...one issue.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 02:01 PM
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15. As I understand it, the current Green Party leader in Canada
Was a Progressive Conservative until a few years ago, and that he has pushed the party sharply to the right.

Would you say this is an accurate assessment, Maple?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:40 AM
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5. Best hope is that Liberals get another minority with NDP much higher.
That would be perfect. Or the block. Fear of Canada turning into Bushland will hopefully keep the Tories far, far away from power.

I'd love to see them win 2 seats again.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:44 AM
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7. I'm not fond of minority govts
because there is a continual uproar over every little thing. And constant threats of an election.

Liberal/NDP might not be bad, but the Tories have such a strong power base in Alberta they can't go down to two again.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:51 AM
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10. I know. But don't ya think the Albertan Farmers were a little like what?
when the same USA cattlemen who managed to keep the boarder to cows closed turned out to be buying up cattle in Alberta? I think - you know - there was a moment there where Albertans must have been thinking.. you know they do this with cows.. what will they do with our oil?

Wishful thinking on my part. I know.

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:00 PM
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13. I wish as well
Alberta has been so gung-ho for right-wing Americanism, yet they've been the ones hurt the worst by it.
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wschalle Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:51 AM
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11. Rig it!
I wonder if the elections will be rigged there too?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 11:59 AM
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12. Hard to do here
We use paper and pencil and an X..then into the ballot box to be counted with all parties present.
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kypper Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 02:04 PM
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16. Damned right
Hard to check the wrong box, too.

Damn have we ever got the American system licked.
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