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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:41 AM Original message |
Howard Dean warns of danger in Iraq pullout |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. We lost this war, and rightly so (as Pope John Paul II warned us!) |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Um, no. National security matters too not just morality. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. um . . . using national security as an excuse to invade . . . |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Don't mischaracterize Kagemusha's post |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. back atcha |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
56. Calling the Iraqi regime under Saddam a |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
103. How? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
141. Simple |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. you need to replace Saddam with Bush to make a proper analogy |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #147 |
155. We have |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. here is what you said and failed to justify |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. So now you're justifying Saddam's regime |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. not hardly quit that shit |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. Full Circle |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. I asked you to explain how calling him legitimate was an insult to etc |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #171 |
197. It is an insult to SOME UN members |
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Mondon (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #197 |
201. Thanks |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #201 |
206. thank you no |
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Mondon (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #206 |
210. Nice ad hominem |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #210 |
212. what do you expect from a Baathist defender? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
73. It's not that easy though. That would be why it's called a quagmire. |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
84. Wow, you are wrong in so many ways |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. no, you are |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 06:57 AM Response to Reply #96 |
181. You are really detached from reality |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. hmmm -- well then we'll never leave. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Now I am reminded of why-- |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
60. The US isn't the cause of the instability |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. This really disappoints me. The unrest will never stop as long as we |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. We liberated Iraq in the same way Hitler liberated Poland |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
61. Really? |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
121. They threatened Germany with WMDs |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. This why we have to change |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. Dean is taking a very carefully-planned position on this. he puts himself |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. We are well past the point of issuing apologies for Democrats that |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. you may be well past something, but don't speak for all of us. i'm a Dem, |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. What is Dennis's current stand on the situation? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
57. DK: Not One More Dime/Insight on Iraq |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
104. hey dont be derailing the nonsense with decent thinkin |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
116. So when is Dennis going to run for senator of Ohio? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Corporate controlled MSM will probably never allow DK to get the |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. Mr. Dean is wrong on the facts of the case, |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
100. I think you are spot on. Look at all the rhetori coming from iraq now. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. SAIGON April 1975 |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #112 |
209. Dems and Repubs: "Permanent war is the only moral choice." |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. The Shia/Sunni divide is way overstated |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
136. Thanks. |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
9. He's just echoing Senator Harry Reid .... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. And Reid is full of shit too n/t |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. nah-- reids a hero |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. Sorry Doc, but we should get out of Iraq and bring the troops home now |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
63. "I will refuse to clean up BushCo's mess in Iraq..." |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. Bad idea, Howard |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. We have plenty of troops there |
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candy331 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
13. Seems Dean is forgetting that the US had to pull out of Vietnam |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
50. And Howard lost his brother Charlie in Vietnam |
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DrDebug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
14. Iraq already is a big threat than it ever was |
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catastrophicsuccess (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
77. A threat to who? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
18. That is exactly the same line of line BS I heard about Vietnam |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
196. Where do you come up with this logic? |
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wildmanj (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
20. can't get out |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
62. Exactly |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't think its a political calculation |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If he believes this shit, he can kiss my ass goodbye. |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. i think its better to fix a mistake |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. They kept saying that for a long time in VietNam. |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. the lesson we should have learned from vietnam |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I agree with your first paragraph. |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. i understand your reservations that we can fix it |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Let's leave it there. |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. ok |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
67. As George Bush sr |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
98. ah thats good |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Hey now.... |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
79. I don't think Kerry would have done much different |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. right, no difference between kerry and bush |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Hmm - let's see here.. |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. fair enough |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Well - you're not talking to a guy who w/held support for Gore |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. gotcha, and I'm glad |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. does it help to rest on lies? |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. guh? |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. coherent sentence? |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. thats two sentence fragments, |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. youre the talking non-sequitors |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. that was fabulous, but it supports my 'randomly generated' theory |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
198. EXCELLENT post. |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #27 |
76. Exactly - every colonial power says the same thing |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. so whats the solution? |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
160. How about this: |
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OETKB (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 06:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
180. First |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
66. did you support the guy, who crowed about serving in Vietnam, |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. "....not to leave before they are ready..." |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. because this administration is shit |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
177. I'll say this for Kerry-- |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. This BS about the Iraqi army needing our training PO's me |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Sure they can shoot a gun. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
99. You're right then |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
143. 2 years |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
64. Bullshit |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
24. Just one of many neocon-inspired messes we will never get out of? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
28. Its like riding a tiger |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Howard Dean Never Opposed Occupation Of Iraq |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Rubbish!! Howard Dean strongly opposed the war in Iraq |
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frictionlessO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #47 |
74. About Pacifism, thats really not how it works. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
115. And Dean said during the Primary campaign that he would not send |
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frictionlessO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
159. Close but unless he thinks of himself as a pacifist, hes really not. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
178. Kucinich isn't a pacifist either. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
153. Gee, what happened to your internets those months? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
215. This simple analogy makes sense to me. |
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ProfessorPlum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
34. No one here has mentioned what is implicit in Dean's statement |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Yes We Can! |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Bobby Kennedy did not organize the anti-Vietnam war movement |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #40 |
191. The Vietnam antiwar movement analogy is not comforting |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Is the UN up to the job? |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
43. Dean is right. Thanks to Bush and the pro-war Dems the US is now in a |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Winning Their Trust At The Point Of A Gun? |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. And US forces must help Iraqis against armed gangs, criminals, and |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So ..... Should Anti-War Activists Sit On Their Hands Until 2008? |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Ok, where's the massive anti-Iraq War movement? |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. The Anti-War Movement Dissolved Into The ABB Election Campaign Fiasco |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
170. yeah I hope somebody got a nice raise for that one! |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Just like the way Bush v1.0 did in 1991? |
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OETKB (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. Circling The Wagons |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Ignore The Wishes Of The Iraqi People? |
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OETKB (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
71. OK |
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catastrophicsuccess (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
87. The Civil war is already underway |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Huh? |
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catastrophicsuccess (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. What dont you understand ? |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. So that makes American troops a tool of the Iranians? |
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catastrophicsuccess (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. We invaded based on Iranian inteligence |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 07:00 AM Response to Reply #97 |
182. It s a HUGE leap! |
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catastrophicsuccess (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #182 |
203. thanks for the compliment |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #203 |
217. Thanks for calling me "ingorant." |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
91. Bring Em Home! |
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OETKB (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
158. I agree, but |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
51. All these YO-YO's that think the US will be able to stay are delusional |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Delusion and corruption are the coin of the realm |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
109. Often when people find themselves in a world of madness............. |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
53. thats what he was saying when he was the "anti-war" candidate, right? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #53 |
75. premature pull out = |
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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. That is actually the positive outcome |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. how can you do the math without the figures? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #86 |
194. no, you're wrong |
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catastrophicsuccess (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
102. So an Islamic Theocracy which is democratically elected |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
193. if it is democratically elected |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
58. He's been saying this for a long time |
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malmapus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
68. Iraq is slightly balanced on a swords edge |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
72. He has said this for two years. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Divide & Conquer |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
78. Viet Nam redux |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
85. I never cared much for Dean...this is one of the reasons. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #85 |
117. So when is DK going to compete against one of the Repuke Ohio Senators? |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #117 |
144. Good point. America doesn't derserve him. |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
93. Presence US military: more killing; US gone: less killing |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
94. at the CA dem convention, |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. I suspect your post might as well |
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pazarus (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. that was amazing! |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. you whacky sack |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
119. It shows that Dean has the courage to say things that even his supporters |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Wake up ... |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #123 |
137. Dean is not profiting from the Iraq War |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #137 |
162. Of course Dean is indirectly profiting ... every Democrat 44 and older |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #162 |
187. So you are accusing me and my brother who didn't have to go to Vietnam of |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. LOL! |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #127 |
138. I'm just a software engineer, not a member of the Ruling Elite |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #138 |
164. Honestly, it will be even more immoral to stay ... that argument |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #164 |
190. And it would be immoral to pull out and leave the region in chaos |
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plasticsundance (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
122. The Iraqi resistance is fighting the US occupation |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
128. WTF?? You guys are bitching about THIS???? |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. truth and falsehood |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. What? What did he say that isn't true? |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. no its not |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. All Dean cares about is what's best for the Iraqi people. |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. You want troops in Iraq? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. No, not at all. If I had my way we would have never even thought about |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. please reread my post if you havent |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Is that what's best for the Iraqis? nt |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. none are so blind |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. You don't think Dean cares about the Iraqi people? |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. I think its their business |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. The terrorists are the people setting off bombs deliberately |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. those cute little Iraqis need us, they really need us! |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #152 |
165. ....... |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. its ok they were worse off under Hussein |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:50 PM Response to Reply #148 |
166. We have to accept the fact BullGooseLoony that |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
134. I don't agree with Dean on this. |
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Zerex71 (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
139. Iraq is Arabic for "quagmire" |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
145. &@#$_)+(~! Say it ain't so, Howuhd! |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
154. Why is everybody worked up about this? Nothing new here. |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:50 AM Response to Reply #154 |
199. I'm willing to bet that a lot of the Dean bashers |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
157. I wish there were a sane way |
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dragon695 (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
167. Damned if we do, damned if we don't |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #167 |
172. No, our representatives are beholden to the AMERICAN PEOPLE first! |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #167 |
173. since NOT ONE of those options has a snowball's chance in Hell |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. Unfortunately you are right. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
175. I believe this was the Kerry/Edwards - democratic party platform |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 06:48 AM Response to Reply #175 |
179. Well then |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 07:12 AM Response to Reply #179 |
183. The posts here remind me of why Dems get crushed on national security |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #183 |
192. Oh please |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #192 |
208. as always of course, I wonder what the reason appears to be to some? |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #192 |
218. What? Vietnam? |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #218 |
222. None? |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #183 |
200. 'We can't leave now"-"We broke it we have to fix it" is BS writ large |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #200 |
219. Racist? What kind of goofy argument is that? |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #179 |
220. True but, the party has a platform |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
176. Nothing Dean said is unreasonable. |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
184. Howard you are wrong about the "war". eom |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #184 |
188. Howard was right about the war. He opposed it on moral grounds. |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #184 |
221. How is he wrong? |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
185. After Dean's little "Things are getting better in Falluja" comment |
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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #185 |
186. What are you talking about |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #186 |
205. Shite - I'm an idiot. A friend sent me an email about this |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #185 |
189. So am I |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #189 |
195. Do you have a link too? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #189 |
216. Clem apologized. You should as well. Was Howard Fineman. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #185 |
202. Wrong Howard, Clem....you need to be careful. Don't spread lies. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
204. Kucinich delegates went along with Kerry's position on this last July. |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #204 |
207. HEY! Lets be real fair and include the context |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #207 |
211. Be fair. |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #211 |
213. like hell |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #204 |
214. Out Now! |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
223. The Good Doctor needs a vacation from politics-He's sounding like... |
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