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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:22 AM
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Newsweek: 'He Was Very Angry’ - (more on Bolton)
A U.S. ambassador is the latest to charge that John Bolton has engaged in some ‘undiplomatic’ behavior.WEB EXCLUSIVE

By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek

Updated: 7:25 p.m. ET April 20, 2005April 20 - President George W. Bush’s former ambassador to South Korea has contacted the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to report two confrontations he had with United Nations Ambassador-designate John Bolton, NEWSWEEK has learned. And Senate investigators are raising more questions about how Bolton and his staff handled sensitive intelligence matters while serving as under-secretary of state for arms control and international security.


The new issues surfaced as Bolton’s controversial nomination is running into increasing trouble. In a surprise development on Tuesday, Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio—who had been expected to vote for Bolton—told his colleagues that he needed more time to review Bolton’s record, forcing the foreign relations committee to delay what had been expected to be a party-line vote to approve the nominee. Republicans Chuck Hagel and Lincoln Chafee also raised red flags about Bolton.

Meanwhile, the White House stepped up pressure on the Senate to approve Bolton and denounced what a spokesman called "unsubstantiated accusations" aimed at the president's choice. "I think what you're seeing is the ugly side of Washington," said White House press secretary Scott McClellan.

The issues raised by retired ambassador Thomas Hubbard help flesh out a portrait of Bolton as a hard-charging, fiercely conservative official who showed little concern for diplomatic niceties and, according to critics, has long been prone to losing his cool. While not as damaging as some earlier accusations against Bolton, they are likely to be considered significant because of Hubbard’s background. A respected career foreign-service officer who served as President Bill Clinton's ambassador to the Philippines, Hubbard was nominated by President Bush to be U.S. ambassador to Seoul in 2001 and served there until last year.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7577473/site/newsweek/
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:26 AM
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1. I think we've been seeing the ugly side of Washington for 4-plus years.
And you're part of that ugliness, Scottie-Mouth.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:28 AM
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2. Damn! Beat me to it.
Lol.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:30 AM
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6. Straight Shooter is faster on the draw than the two of us!
LOL!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:29 AM
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3. Bolton is part of "the ugly side of Washington" Scott.
"I think what you're seeing is the ugly side of Washington," said White House press secretary Scott McClellan.

I predict Bolton will fight to stay as the nominee but the nomination will be withdrawn.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:29 AM
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4. What a surprise, an appointed dickhead appointing a dickhead
I hate these powermad King-Shit nobodies that think their shit don't stink and walk over everyone else.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:29 AM
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5. Republicans yesterday said losing one's cool is, well, kinda cool
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 10:29 AM by Feeney2
They were out in force proclaiming it is OK to rip into people on occasion and everyone should understand that this happens when people have high level important jobs and sometimes get hot under the collar with others.:grr: :grr:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:34 AM
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8. I went to dozens of leadership courses and seminars
during my years in the Navy and anger was never advocated as a tool. If persons in "high level important jobs" are successful in displaying their leadership traits they would have no reason to get angry at subordinates. But we are discussing "leadership" and "republicans" in the same posts. I digress.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:05 AM
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:35 AM
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22. I n fifteen years as a manager and supervisor,
I never raised my voice in anger to any employee, period.

You just don't do that. My training and experience tell me you are right, BOSSHOG.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:33 PM
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24. Indeed. We called it "abuse of authority" and it is punishable
under the UCMJ. Apparently, it's rewarded in the boyking regime!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:32 AM
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7. This must be the evidence Rice didn't want coming out
and whar the Senate panel was alluding to.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:34 AM
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9. The Bad side of Washington INDEED!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:40 AM
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10. I'm sure there will be more examples
This is why Lugar was pushing so hard for a vote
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:40 AM
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11. Okay, here's my take on all this Bolton Bullshit ....
We need to move away from the Bolton discussion for just a moment to see what their strategy is ........

Prancing Preznit Precious, in pandering to the religioroaches and corpororoaches, wants his fucked up judges confirmed ..... and at an even higher level of strategy, simply wants to eliminate any and all opposition to any fucking thing he wants to do ..... so ......

He sends Bolton up for consideration .... knowing full fucking well the guy's a slimeball who could never get confirmed when measured against any reasonable standards.

The bleaters bleat about obstructing 'the Prays-ident's' choices. And we all know the 'Prays-ident' is entitled to the team he wants. Blah, blah, fucking blah.

They paint our side as the obstruction.

We win on Bolton (as it appears we well may).

Then "Here Come Da Judges" ........

Wudda we do now? Obstruct?

Actually .... yeah ... that's exactly what we should be doing. But will we? Or ... maybe more likely with our crew ...... we'll just see one lone senator - like Barbara Boxer's walk to the House Chamber last December - stand up. Accolades all around on our side ..... a liddle back slapping .... lotsa "waytago"s to the brave soul who draws the short straw ...... talk of our big balls for standing up ..... and at the end of it all ...... they win.

We're obstructionists. We're evil. We're rabid haters of America. We hate Jaaaaayzus. We wear long hair to hide our horns.

I'm telling ya ... they're fucking us yet again.

What can we do about it?

2006 is about all we can hope for. Let's make it count, folks.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:45 AM
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13. We're the opposition party
Using the words Bush and reasonable standards in a sentence has me confused.... is that possible?

I don't think the Dems will back down on voting down the same judges they voted down the last time they were nominated. We need to write, call, fax our Senators and tell them we demand they stand up to the fascists that are trying to solidify the coup that took place in 2000.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:08 AM
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17. I think you are wrong about their strategy
I think they absolutely want Bolton at the UN and I think they want it because of what Scott Ritter said on Randi Rhodes show last week and that is Iran....Scott Ritter has reported that Bush has seen and signed off on an attack plan for Iran in June - however he has not given the orders - they want Bolton in the UN to start the drum beat and get sanctions placed on them so then this administration will state Iran is not cooperating with the UN and we must attack them to save us from their nuclear weapons -

Ritter was on Randi last Wednesday - if you haven't heard the interview you shoulc check it out - about 33 minutes in - very much worth listening to. Ritter was right about no WMDs in Iraq and he may just be right about Iran....

www.whiterosesociety.org

Randi Rhodes show April 13, 2005
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:06 PM
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30. You have it nailed down young lady.......
I only wish more folks had listened to Scott on the Randi Rhodes show.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:28 AM
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21. Perhaps, Bush* has run out of "reasonable" nominees...
since they are truly a minority party trying to take over the country, we should expect that the best they can do is to nominate some washed up, criminal extremists.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:35 AM
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33. We just passed Negroponte & war money
Rice confirmed fairly easily. Gonzales had a tougher time, but lots of Dems voted for him too. Dems voted for bankruptcy bill and class action too. No, obstructionist won't work. Too much crap has come out on Bolton.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:39 AM
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34. Is obstruction justified?
If the thumbs-down verdict on Bolton as well as any other nominee is well justified then reason and data are the best defense against the scandalous accusations that may arise from this.

Bolton is wholly unfit for a "diplomatic" post as even a fraction of the evidence against his qualifications may play out.

As for judicial nominees, perhaps getting on record one's opinion of the Terri Schiavo legal conundrum should be the new litmus test.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:44 AM
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12. Hey, who says a diplomat should be diplomatic?
Don't arrogant hotheads deserve to be represented at the highest levels of the administration and in its appointments to sensitive positions? Why, oh why do you liberals hate America so much that you deny the full participation of our nation's hair-trigger fussbudgets in our country's diplomatic corps?
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:02 AM
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14. It because we don't support the troops, and we want to legalize
gay marriage! Us liberals (in a deep voice like Rush Limpballs) just don't get it!:+
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:08 AM
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18. I'm with you - we need an asshole UN ambassador who REALLY knows how to
bang his shoe on the General Assembly podium.

Just like the Good Old Days...

Bring it On Hissy Boy Bolton!

:)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:06 AM
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16. It won't matter the bastard will be confirmed
2004 was the most important election of our lifetime, and 50% of the people who were elibigle to vote didn't even bother

Unfortunately we will be paying for the consequences of those actions for quite some time

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:20 AM
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20. I'm not willing to concede that...
AND I'm not willing to concede to the nuclear option, AND I'm not willing to give my Senator's a pass on conceding to ANY OF IT

AND I'm not going to "choose my battles" anymore, either.

I. HAVE. HAD. IT!

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:29 PM
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25. i haven't given up, but i when you are a minority party
you don't have many options

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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:16 AM
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19. Until the bankers decide
that the oil and arms boys are endangering their positions, we will continue to pretend that the little emperor is wearing clothes.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:34 PM
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23. so how many examples of ''bolton is an asshole''
will it take to move this guy to the south 40?

i'm tired of reading that he's a sack of shit -- i hope the senate gets rid of this jerk.

let's get on to the fight over the judges -- that'll be a doozy.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:37 PM
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26. Did someone block his view of the Pleiades?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:41 PM
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27. Diplomat Disputes Bolton Testimony
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 07:37 PM by Algorem
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/21/politics/main690018.shtml

...But Bolton's fate grew even murkier, as one of the president's own former ambassadors, told CBS News Correspondent Gloria Borger that Bolton had been less than truthful in his recent confirmation hearings.

The episode revolves around a speech Bolton gave in South Korea in the summer of 2003, in which he said, "For many in North Korea, life is a hellish nightmare."

When asked about the hard-line speech, Bolton said Ambassador Thomas Hubbard had approved it.

"I can tell you what our ambassador to South Korea, Tom Hubbard, said after the speech. He said, "Thanks a lot for that speech, John. It'll help us a lot out here.'"...

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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:42 PM
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28. Bolton will not be confirmed
chances are now better than 50/50 against IMHO.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:47 PM
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29. Maybe Bush just wanted Bolton to take his Daddy's place in history as
the U.S.'s worst U.N. Ambassador ever.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:15 AM
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32. He just wanted to show off...
While the albatross takes flight!
http://houseofscandal.org
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 12:32 AM
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31. Its time to take Senator Frist back to the pulpit.
Why does he claim to speak for god anyway?

http://www.yuricareport.com

America is ours, get your hands off!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:02 AM
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35. Former Bush Ambassador Challenges Bolton's Testimony and Diplomatic Style
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBT05XJU7E.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - As President Bush tries to shore up support for John R. Bolton among wavering Republican senators, his former ambassador to South Korea is challenging Bolton's Senate testimony and his diplomatic style.


The criticism leveled at the nominee for U.S. ambassador to the United Nations by retired career diplomat Thomas Hubbard, who held the Seoul post during Bush's first term, adds to allegations by several former and current State Department officials that Bolton mistreated them and threatened their careers.

Bolton has denied the charges in sworn testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and the Bush administration is portraying Democratic efforts to derail Bolton's troubled nomination as a smear campaign. Still, the committee has delayed its vote on Bolton.

On Friday, a White House spokesman declined to talk about discussions former Secretary of State Colin Powell has had with some senators about Bolton.

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The hits just keep on coming.

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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:02 AM
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36. Will this yahoo just withdraw already??
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:39 AM
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37. Is it just me, or does this guy resemble a walrus?
I don't know why, but I'm reminded of walruses whenever I see a pic of him.

P.S- To the walruses out there, I apologize, but the resemblance IS striking
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