Ecuador Crisis Affects FTA Talks(w/o Gutierrez FTA needs a new cheerleader

[Robbien]

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Meanwhile, in Ecuador, that country's new trade minister, Oswaldo Molestina, said the new government may quit negotiations with the U.S. altogether. "We won't accept that an economic colossal like the U.S. maintains millions of dollars in subsidies," Ecuador's Foreign Trade Minister Molestina told Dow Jones Newswires on Friday. "If the free trade agreement is harmful for Ecuador, the government will abandon negotiations."

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Ecuador's negotiators said after Gutierrez was ousted Wednesday that Ecuador would stay at the table, but would not present any new proposals or make any commitments until receiving instructions from the new president.

Before he was sworn in to replace Gutierrez, Ecuador's Vice President Alfredo Palacio told foreign journalists that he favored diverting money from an oil stabilization fund, largely earmarked for foreign debt repayments, to health and education programs - sending a chill through international financial markets.

On Thursday, Palacio appointed a new Cabinet, signaling a shift from Gutierrez's strict economic policy. The new economy minister, Rafael Correa, told reporters the country needs a more "patriotic" approach to debt servicing."

http://www.forbes.com/business/commerce/feeds/ap/2005/04/22/ap1969938.html

[aneerkoinos]

1. I love them!

The "international financial markets", getting a chill, when there is even a mention of health and education, what people actually need!!! :D :D :D

What more do you need to understand? It's not "us" against a bunch of other people, it's all the people against economic structures of capitalism and especially sociapathic entities called corporations. Sure, lot's of people (management and middle-managment) are willing slaves to corporations and getting their self esteem and purpose of life from being able to kick poor people on the head, but they are still people, us. Even you yankee gringo bastids! :D

[Robbien]

2. Ha!

And surprisingly enough some of us yankee gringo bastids heartily agree with you damned ferriners.

[aneerkoinos]

3. Goddam you filty trotskyite commie!

No such things as "internationalism" or "solidarity" or "plain human decency" or "hey, we got some serious common problems, why not to work together to solve them instead of competing each other death".

Didn't you get the message, there's only greed, power, competing and individualistic compulsive consumerism! That is the universal human nature!

[Robbien]

4. A trotskyite commie. Me?

Yep I guess so. And proudly do I wave the flag. In these times of corporate elitist greed, Red is the only color of defense.

[aneerkoinos]

5. Here's my hand to you, comrade!

Glad to meet you! :toast:

In my heart, my flag has black in addition to red, so all but most elitistic avant-guard bolshevik snob intellectuals are wellcome to march under that.

I'm fundie democrat to the core, even when I know better than the others ;), but on the other hand, only fundamentalist democracy is good enough for me.

[Robbien]

6. Soros said that the danger of BushCo is

that all of their bumbling about gives away the game. Yes, that is true. I used to believe I was a tree hugging bleeding heart liberal. Now that the game is known, being an elitist avant-guard bolshevik is also a good fit.

Cheers to you my friend. :toast:

[aneerkoinos]

7. avant-guardism

Personally I'm very much "know-better" elitist avant-guard bolshevik (well actually menshevik, and in fact really ultra-minority :D). That's why I should not be allowed to rule!!! ;)

So soviet experience shoved that elitist avant-guardism leads to hubris, oligarchic dictatorship and corruption, so that is not the way. Socialism cannot be anything but democratic, for to succeed, anything but participatory democratic. Representation is only necessary evil. Bolivarian revolution is extremely interesting, so far proving that there is a way to move towards socialism democratically, leadership taking cue from the population (while also educating the population), not only vice versa. Socialism of the new millenium is and must be democratic leadership of the masses, individual leaders rising to the occasion when needed. But leadership cults are nothing but fascism, Chavez included. So far it seems Chavez realizes Bolivarian revolution is much bigger that the Chavez the political Entertainer, Chavez the political Symbol, which is as it is should be.

NO LEADERSHIP CULTS, NO AVANT-GUARD STALINISM, BUT PEOPLE POWER, PEOPLE CREATIVITY, PEOPLE COOPERATION, ONLY PEOPLE-POWERED AD HOC - LEADERS, NO CAPITAL POWERED CULT LEADERS.

Dig?