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pazarus Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:25 PM
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Time Article on Bush Administration punishing Kerry supporters

This is just a short article about a recent case of Bush's team surrounding himself with his own elk and squelching dissent. This, like so many other times, steps over the line. I hope we don't get numb to this. I think I can put the whole article here without breaking any DU rules...

The Inter-American Telecommunication Commission meets three times a year in various cities across the Americas to discuss such dry but important issues as telecommunications standards and spectrum regulations. But for this week's meeting in Guatemala City, politics has barged onto the agenda. At least four of the two dozen or so U.S. delegates selected for the meeting, sources tell TIME, have been bumped by the White House because they supported John Kerry's 2004 campaign.

The State Department has traditionally put together a list of industry representatives for these meetings, and anyone in the U.S. telecom industry who had the requisite expertise and wanted to go was generally given a slot, say past participants. Only after the start of Bush's second term did a political litmus test emerge, industry sources say.

The White House admits as much: "We wanted people who would represent the Administration positively, and--call us nutty--it seemed like those who wanted to kick this Administration out of town last November would have some difficulty doing that," says White House spokesman Trent Duffy. Those barred from the trip include employees of Qualcomm and Nokia, two of the largest telecom firms operating in the U.S., as well as Ibiquity, a digital-radio-technology company in Columbia, Md. One nixed participant, who has been to many of these telecom meetings and who wants to remain anonymous, gave just $250 to the Democratic Party. Says Nokia vice president Bill Plummer: "We do not view sending experts to international meetings on telecom issues to be a partisan matter. We would welcome clarification from the White House."


The thing about this is just the escalation in the degree to which they will stifle opposition. What does the Telecom conference have to do with being a Republican? Why does it matter who the people in the conference voted for in the Fall?

But more importantly, where will it end? We already know they screen for Bush events, and they weed out or force opposing voices to resign in their lower ranks. They are rushing to fill the courts with conservatives, purge the CIA of opposition, put conservatives into every powerful position in the government and the world; the World Bank, the UN Ambassador, the Secretary of State. Moderate voices who step out of line are viciously atacked.

So is this new development going to be an official policy? Will Democrats not be allowed to any government conferences? Will Democrats or non-Republicans be kept out of every government position and even out of physical presence of the government? Do Americans care about this?

Time Article
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:33 PM
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1. Darn straight Americans care about this. Just because it's not on Faux
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 12:33 PM by w4rma
doesn't mean Americans aren't *extremely* ticked off about being told by the Republicans in power that they have to "officially" support the Republican Party to be able to do their jobs.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:34 PM
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2. This sounds like the very definition of hubris!
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 12:35 PM by cry baby
bastards!

We are sliding down the slippery slope into HELL.

Edit to say Welcome to DU and thanks for posting an article that should get us fired up!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:05 PM
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26. Welcome to the Nightmare, huh!
Maybe we're already there (hell). Repuks must have hated American's way of life for decades, befriending only $$$$ corporations.

We're not longer the United States of America. We're the United Corporation of the Homeland.

Bastards is right!
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:36 PM
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3. we get closer to fascism every day
but the Jackson trial is so much more interesting. :sarcasm:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:10 PM
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10. Indeed, we are sprinting toward fascism
Similar tactics (if not the SAME) were used in Germany.


I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:08 PM
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28. Dictatorship.
I want my country back, too!

Say the same thing every damn day.

:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:37 PM
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4. we know that the gov web sites have been scrubbed to only re-
present the view of the administration (including sex education of the Dept of Education, etc), we know the WH rejects any science that opposes their 'scince' (ie-global warming). So, now we know they scrub business people they do not think represent their narrow minded view. Yes, I care--What of do is the problem.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:39 PM
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5. Good post -- I've forwarded it to others. You might want to
correct a typo by changing "elk" to "ilk."
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:58 PM
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8. Maybe they're members of B.P.O.E.??
:silly:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:14 PM
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12. LOL, you bad!
:spank:
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pazarus Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:53 PM
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22. oops
missed my chance to add "edited for silly visual you get from spelling mistake"
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:43 PM
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6. Scariest article I've read in a very long time. We are in trouble folks.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:19 PM
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16. how sick are these people?
"We wanted people who would represent the Administration positively, and--call us nutty--it seemed like those who wanted to kick this Administration out of town last November would have some difficulty doing that," says White House spokesman Trent Duffy

But this administration will be out of town in less than four years..I hope :scared:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:59 PM
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20. Yeah. Umm hello, the people who attend the conference
Are representing the UNITED STATES, which is NOT the Bush Administration. Arrogant petty tyrants.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:37 PM
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32. Umm hello..
anything and anyone can be bought in the Republican party, even the FCC :smoke:
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cookiebird Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:54 PM
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43. Groupthink
looms in the future of these self-constructed groups that reflect the ideological bias of the Bushies. It never serves a president well to surround himself with nattering "yes men" who won't dare tell him the truth--JFK learned that the hard way, and avoided a disaster during the Missile Crisis.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:49 PM
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7. This is a makeup call...
...for all the criticism Time/AOL/CNN/Warner/Bush, Inc. received over the Ann Coulter story.

Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

It's sure no revelation that Bush, Inc. selects it's representation based on loyalty, truth be damned.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:03 PM
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9. Government for 1/2 the country
It's beyond scary - it's just carrying on the dogma of loyalty oaths to see the President. Now, I guess you don't have professional expertise or input if you don't belong to the right party. So, obviously, they are screening pretty much everything against the readily available donor lists. Soon, will we have to wear blue donkeys sewn to our clothing? Will Democratic employees of government contractors mysteriously be "downsized".

Which government employee in what department,paid by ALL of our tax dollars, is in charge of screening? I think these telecom employees should seek out the ACLU pronto.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:54 PM
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18. It's really only government for about 5% of the country, as non-wealthy
republican voters will soon discover.
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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:55 AM
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33. soooo, we need to get the other 95% registered and voting
if you live in a diebold/es&s state, vote absentee
we have one and a half years to do this, we're not pressed for time
democrats/independent/3rd party in 2006
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:12 PM
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11. what indeed, does a telecomm conf have to do with being repub
it's organized crime, pure and simple. racketeering.

bush: a uniter not a divider. we call bullshit. this is the kind of information that is an embarrassement to the bushsters. nominated for greatest because this is exactly the kind of thing average americans care about!

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:14 PM
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23. Could they be any clearer?(or more guilty)
Upon reflection, this baldfaced admission from this Adminstration lackey possibly is an admission of guilt as to:

racketeering, or "pay to play"

Sherman anti-trust (steering business only to government approved associates)

denial of 1st Amendment freedoms to express your support for anyone you please, financially or otherwise

mal-feasance/misappropriation for State Department employees to be
screening on political contributions.

Again I say - what employee, in which department, at whose behest?
Whay MSM is goint to pick this up? I want follow-up! I encourage the companies and employees involved to fight against this outrageous, strong-arm, anti-American thuggery.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:26 AM
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37. welcome to DU, phoebe!
the whole thing with the courts is soooo blatant that they don't want a court left existing that would indict them for crimes they have already clearly committed. it's a criminal takeover. it's not left or right. it's right or wrong. beyond good and evil.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:34 PM
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40. tell the STATE DEPARTMENT what you think:
I'm calling: Clune 202 647 1936 lawrence Greenwood 202 647 9496 Weley Scholz 202 736 4762 David Gross: 202 647 5212

Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs (EB)
Assistant Secretary E. Anthony Wayne 6828 202-647-7971
Personal Assistant Elizabeth Orlowski 6828 202-647-7971
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary Shaun Donnelly 6828 202-647-5991

OFFICE OF COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS AFFAIRS (CBA)
Special Representative J. Frank Mermoud 2318 202-647-1625
Deputy Director Jack Spilsbury 2318 202-647-2615
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC POLICY ANALYSIS AND PUBLIC DIPLOMACY (EB/EPPD)
Director Daniel Clune 3526 202-647-1936
Deputy Director Policy Analysis Team Stephanie Miley 3526 202-647-1808
Deputy Director/PA Advisor Public Diplomacy Team Carol Lynn McCurdy 3526 202-647-0677
Congressional Coordinator Anita Botti 3526 202-647-2679
EXECUTIVE STAFF (EB/EX)
Executive Director Renate Z. Coleshill 4527A 202-647-2720
Deputy Executive Director Karen Benjamin 4527A 202-647-3248
INTERNATIONAL FINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT (EB/IFD)
Deputy Assistant Secretary Lawrence C. Greenwood, Jr. 4820 202-647-9496
OFFICE OF DEVELOPMENT FINANCE (EB/IFD/ODF)
Director Judith Garber 3425 202-647-9426
Deputy Director Ted Lyng 3425 202-647-5686
OFFICE OF INVESTMENT AFFAIRS (EB/IFD/OIA)
Director Wesley Scholz 4820 202-736-4762
Deputy Director Paul Brown 4820 202-736-4365
OFFICE OF MONETARY AFFAIRS (EB/IFD/OMA)
Director Russ Frisbie 3425 202-647-5935
Deputy Director Thomas Engle 3425 202-647-9792
TRADE POLICY AND PROGRAMS (EB/TPP)
Deputy Assistant Secretary Shaun Donnelly 6828 202-647-5991
OFFICE OF AGRICULTURAL, BIOTECHNOLOGY AND TEXTILE TRADE AFFAIRS (EB/TPP/ABT)
Director Philip Wall 3831A 202-647-3090
Agricultural Trade Policy and Programs Division Chief Amy Winton 3831A 202-647-1490
Biotechnology and Textile Trade Policy and Agreements Division Chief (Biotechnology) Deborah Malac 3831A 202-647-2062
OFFICE OF BILATERAL TRADE AFFAIRS (EB/TPP/BTA)
Director Kevin Honan 3828 202-647-4017
Chief of Asia, Near East and Africa Robert Rapson 3828 202-647-2777
Europe and Western Hemisphere Division Chief Robin Matthewman 3822A 202-647-1983
OFFICE OF MULTILATERAL TRADE AFFAIRS (EB/TPP/MTA)
Director William Craft 3828 202-647-6324
Special Trade Activities Division Chief Robert Downes 3828 202-647-8202
Intellectual Property and Competition Division Chief Paul Aceto 3638 202-647-3985
TRANSPORTATION AFFAIRS (EB/TRA)
Deputy Assistant Secretary John Byerly 5830 202-647-4045
OFFICE OF AVIATION NEGOTIATIONS (EB/TRA/AN)
Director Edward Smith 5531 202-647-5865
Deputy Director Laura Faux-Gable 5531 202-647-9797
OFFICE OF TRANSPORTATION POLICY (EB/TRA/OTP)
Director Ted Kloth 5531 202-647-8687
ENERGY, SANCTIONS AND COMMODITIES (EB/ESC)
Deputy Assistant Secretary Paul E. Simons 3529 202-647-1498
OFFICE OF TERRORISM FINANCE AND ECONOMICS SANCTIONS POLICY (EB/ESC/TFS)
Director David Nelson 4535 202-647-5673
Deputy Director Edward Goff 4535 202-647-7677
Iran and Libya Sanctions Act Unit Chief James Eighmie 3529 202-647-2856
OFFICE OF INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AND COMMODITY POLICY (EB/ESC/IEC)
Director Stephen Gallogly 3535 202-647-3036
Energy and Natural Resources Division Chief E. Jim Steele 3529 202-647-2871
Energy Producer-Country Affairs Division Chief Matthew McManus 3535 202-647-3423
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION POLICY (EB/CIP)
Deputy Assistant Secretary David Gross 4826 202-647-5212
OFFICE OF BILATERAL AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS (EB/CIP/BA)
Deputy US Coordinator Robert Boehme 2533A 202-647-6842
OFFICE OF MULTILATERAL AFFAIRS (EB/CIP/MA)
Senior Deputy US Coordinator Richard Beaird 4826 202-647-5832
OFFICE OF STRATEGIC PLANNING/SATELLITES
Deputy US Coodinator Steven Lett 4826 202-647-5832

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:16 PM
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13. OK, I have a possible solution. The Great American Filibuster.
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 01:22 PM by Zorra
1)ALL Democrats, Greens, Liberal Independents,etc., start boycotting all companies that support republicans immediately. We support only companies/individuals that do not support the Bush fascist regime to the greatest extent possible individually and collectively. And stop spending money as much as is possible.

You can find info on which corporations support republicans here at the DU Economic Activism Forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=255

The groups mentioned above begin a nationwide general strike, and strike indefinitely, until the fascists agree to eliminate electronic voting, among other changes, and institute a voting system that we approve, or until the 2006 election. We begin the strike on Mother's Day, May 8, 2005. The purpose of the strike is to shut the nation down so that the Bush fascist government cannot function, and to guarantee fair elections in 2006 so that the democratic process can be restored.

This might work; it might not. If we do nothing, we lose our democracy forever, and we live under an ironfisted, repressive fascist dictatorship for the rest of our lives or until Americans have had enough and do what they did in 1776.

Because the fascists are not going to relinquish power any other way, and they have taken the steps to prevent the American people from removing them through the voting process or by any other legitimate democratic manner.

The dictatorship is here. Live with it, or take the steps to stop it while you still can. If we take this non-violent path to stopping the fascists now, life will become temporarily inconvenient and uncomfortable, but our children will have the chance to live in a free country.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety". Ben Franklin



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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:40 PM
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14. You Won't Find Many Government Contractors Among the Blue Companies
If you want to do business with the government at all,
you gotta pony up to the Republicans.
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:54 PM
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15. Just an FYI
Latest Breaking News items should have the article title as the thread title. If you want to start a discussion thread of your own making, try anothe forum, not the LBN.
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pazarus Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:46 PM
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21. ok thank you
first time for me...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:44 PM
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17. That's some mighty fine guvnin', Dubya. n/t
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:56 PM
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19. Why is Washington picking who goes to a tech meeting? Huh?
That doesn't make sense to me. Unless it's not really a tech meeting, but some sort of trade meeting.

The people from those companies can, of course, go to any tech meeting in the world they wish to. In a democracy, we don't need government approval to do that (unless, I guess, we're meeting with an enemy of the state or something). This meeting sounds like something else to me...some sort of government-to-government type meeting. Wonder what it is?
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:58 PM
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24. The Cascadian Time is coming ---->
<>
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:03 PM
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25. "Call us Nutty!?!" Good Point: "Where will it end?"
Where will it end? Next to kicking us all out on the steets. Dis-connecting our internet, depriving us of our free speech (think they're doing that now if you're paying attention)...

Oh forget it. You might be right w/that last statement whereas "Do Americans care about this?"

I wonder. Maybe we're the only ones.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:06 PM
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27. You know, Bush has got real problems if he is this thin skinned!
What an infantile thing to do.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:08 PM
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29. OK I'll call you 'nutty'
you fucking assholes! :mad:
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:52 PM
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30. WTF? WTF? W. T. F.? I'm at a complete loss for words here!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:10 PM
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31. Once again - sounds like the old "Party"
system in the old Soviet Union. Isn't totalitarian rule... brought by the self-proclaimed promoters of "democracy"... interesting.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:00 AM
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34. Gotta be a bobble head doll
otherwise you hate America, don't you know

They want nothing less than total control. Be afraid, be very afraid.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:13 AM
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35. This will turn the world agin' * at an ever faster pace
The corollary to the extremism of BushCrimeInc in their picks of diplomatic/trade reps is it will create even greater worldwide revulsion of them. Unfortunately, the impact will affect us all. :(





www.stopbolton.org
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:25 AM
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36. it's like a Stalin-era purge
They're trying to turn this into a one-party state by whatever means necessary, either through intimidation or stamping out of minority rights, or through the kind of overt propaganda that mainstreams the likes of Coulter.

This is the most depressing thing I've read in quite a while. Where does it end?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:32 PM
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38. Republicans... the new Ba'ath party.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:52 PM
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39. Yea and who still believes the ballot box wasn't stuffed?
Ecuador is currently setting some fine examples for the future. Let's hope it don't get this far but at the same time be prepared (just mentally bar nothing else) if it does
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:44 PM
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41. my letter to state department : points taken fm this dialogue:
USE THIS HOWEVER YOU LIKE:

RE: Inter-American Telecommuncation Commission and denial of non-Bush voters to remain on panel

Dear. Mr. Clune, Greenwood, Scholz, and Gross:

I am not sure to whom this should go so I am writing people associated with the obvious headers as re: the State Department web page.

This denial of people who did not vote for the current administration is:

Racketeering or ‘pay to play’
In violation of the Sherman Anti-trust laws (steering business to only
government approved associates)
In denial of 1st Amendment re: freedom of expression.

Please advise me, as an interested and concerned citizen, as to how this is going to how I can formally register a complaint. Please advise me as to follow this matter up.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:06 PM
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42. write NOKIA and QUALCOMM: ....support the BLUE COMPANIES...
use this however you like: I sent this to:

nokia.tetra@nokia.com,mobile.business.emea@nokia.com,communication.corp@nokia.com,corpcomm@qualcomm.com,ir@qualcomm.com


LETTER TO THE EDITOR

INAPPROPRIATE BLOCKING OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANIES BY BUSH ADMINISTRATION

The The Inter-American Telecommunication Commission needs representatives from Qualcomm and Nokia. These are major players.

Instead, they have been singled out and barred by the White House and perhaps the State Department as there was support for Kerry amongst people in their ranks. This is yet more indication that Mr. Bush is a divider and not a uniter. Those are empty words and these kinds of activities should be entertained as: racketeering (pay to play) and are in violation of the First Amendment which assures American citizens of freedom of expression. Sherman Anti-Trust Laws have been violated in terms of steering business to only government approved associates.

We need considerably less of this----not more.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:00 PM
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44. Time Magazine, Coulter, etc.
One thing I would like to point out is that Time took a lot of hits not that long ago for running that Ann Coulter cover story. I hope y'all will take note of this and realize that, while that piece was admittedly Dumb, the magazine itself does some good too.
Sincerely,
A Member of the Liberal Media with a few friends at Time.
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pazarus Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:16 PM
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46. i emailed and thanked them
they responded quickly to last week's email i sent them about the coulter photo, so I thanked them for their response and their retraction, at least on the website. I haven't seen the newest hard copy so i don't know if they made one in there too.

I was also glad they published this story, because I think it's an amazing case of the administration's disgusting policies that could have easily been swept under the rug. We would never hear about this without this small little article, because it essentially sems like a small story and it doesn't personally effect more than four or five people.

This story is bigger though, and I hope it registers in the back of peope's minds. This has not happened before, it is just with this corrupt administration that even government conferences are filtered out to Republican-only participants. Just to be invited to a conference in your field of expertise, the administration will look into your history of donations and they do not want your ideas if you have given any money to the Democratic party.

Everyone who sees this story can't believe it, so I hope it gets out there, and I'm glad Time's editors let it through.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:16 PM
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45. George W. Bush
and his handlers scorn and piss on the Constitution every day. They are spoiled, sick, sociopathic fucks without even the good sense to hide their disdain for our beloved Constitution.


They will continue to alienate even their "friends." Sociopaths work this way. Eventually, no one but the rabid, radical Righties will support these criminal creeps, but one by one we will see them ( hopefully) incarcerated for treason.

Nutty, Mr. Duffy? No, Dog. We call that treachery against the USA. We call that UnAmerican. And we call you and your kind the unprincipled swine that you are.

If there is a Jesus, he's puking right now.
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:38 AM
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47. I take it that it doesn't matter who you work for..
But rather who you support, in this new political minefield era. I question the sanity of these who are in charge.
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