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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:12 AM
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States May Disobey Driver's License Rules
States May Disobey Driver's License Rules

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WASHINGTON - States are threatening to challenge in court and even disobey new orders from Congress to start issuing more uniform driver's licenses and verify the citizenship or legal status of people getting them.

There is concern among some states that they'll get stuck with a large tab to pay for implementing the new rules and that getting a driver's license will become a bigger headache for law-abiding residents.

"Governors are looking at all their options. If more than half of the governors agree we're not going down without a fight on this, Congress will have to consider changing this unfunded federal mandate," said Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, vice chairman of the National Governors Association. A Huckabee aide said the options include court action.

Good for them

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:23 AM
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1. Time to check in with YOUR Governor!
send him/her a little note...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:09 AM
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4. heck--send/email him/her this thread with a click click
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 05:47 AM
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2. States should've taken same stance with NCLB from the beginning.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:05 AM
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3. But they didn't have an example then of what would happen.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:20 AM
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5. They did have an example
NCLB wasn't the first time that the Fedral government has dumped an unfunded or under funded law onto the states, was it?
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:59 AM
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6. There are so many things wrong with this rule
Edited on Tue May-10-05 09:01 AM by Greylyn58
that I don't know where to begin and in the end, it won't prevent anything.

The lines to get a drivers license are already unbelievable and the stupidity that will be added to this will only make things worse.

In the article it mentions that women who are married but have kept their maiden names will have problems getting these new licenses. Randi Rhodes mentioned other problems too. For example, someone who has undergone sex change surgery. Their birth certificate will have them listed as being either male or female, but now they may have changed sex. That's just one example, she came up with others.

Sensenbrenner said last week that waiting a little longer in line is "a small price to pay" to prevent future terrorism.

This is man is beyond clueless and probably never stood in a long line in his life. Jerk!!

I hope all the Governors stand up and disobey this order!!! I would absolutely love it.



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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:06 AM
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7. Sensenbrenner has written some
weird stuff, but this Real-ID takes the cake!

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:33 AM
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8. Until the put enough inspectors to work to inspect cargo containers
coming into US ports, anything they say is for security should be shouted down as a bald faced lie! When less than 10-20% of containers get a look, they are not keeping the nation secure. Anything they do is to make life harder for law abiding citizens and to protect neocon asses from the righteous anger of the public!

Figure it is just a matter of time until they micro chip us all, for our own protection. They will start with a program for tagging children, you know to protect them from predators. "Do it for the children".

With the deficits they have piled on future generations' backs, we know what they really think of the children.

They do not care about National Security. They care about their corporate masters. Those CEOs want us tagged or bagged so we won't give them any trouble.
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:12 AM
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9. It took me 9 months
to get my driver's license and truck tags switched after moving to Calif. (9 mo.--kind of like giving birth!)
Every time I went into the DMV with some other piece of documentation they wanted, they wanted something else, and wrote me another extension. It was beyond ridiculous. 25 years ago, I legally shortened and changed my first name. Then I got married 20 years ago, and changed my last name. So NOTHING matches up.
Can you imagine what kind of nightmare it's going to be if they implement this "Real I.D." act???
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:46 AM
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14. I know
I used my married name VERY briefly after I got married in 1985. Today, I show up in databases under that name! I had a driver's license with the married name for a short time as well and changed it back. Hell, even social security had me as that name up until about 10 years ago the idiots.

As if this REAL ID thing will work! It will case FAR MORE PROBLEMS than anyone had ever even possibly imagined!

Terrorist being caught this way? Ahhhmmmmm I don't think so you assholes!

:kick:


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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:22 AM
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10. You can count my Governor out.......
Rick Perry is Bush lite..........
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:33 AM
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11. Here in Illinois
They've already pretty much told the Feds to stick it. One of the requirements in the new regulations is that the DMV will have to confirm that things like gas bills or electric bills are valid. By calling the utilities. Have you ever tried getting a live person at any of these places?

NPR had an interview with the head of DMV and he was basically laughing, saying it already takes an hour to get a license renewal on a good day. Are people going to put up with four hours minimum? No.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:10 PM
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20. Good grief
Especially if you go to the DMV on a Saturday or in the evenings: all our utilities companies stop taking calls at 5 pm promptly.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:40 AM
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12. I guess I will go to another state for mine
or do without

FUCKING FASCIST COCKSUCKERS

:mad: :mad:
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:43 AM
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13. fax your senator TODAY before the 80 billion $ vote!
More war for oil money today on the table in the senate along with the ugly little rider bill attached, the REAL ID. :puke:

fax here:

http://www.unRealID.com

:kick: !!!!!!!!

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ultraprog Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 11:03 AM
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15. you've gotta love
unfunded federal mandates. I think this is senseless.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 11:06 AM
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16. States need to start pushing back at the federal govt
because the federal govt is cutting money to the states while trying to exert more control over the states. The states should tell them NO!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 11:32 AM
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17. Wisconsin should dump hypocrite James "Big Brother" Sensenbrenner.
This phony lies to everyone about making the federal government smaller, and then advocates EXPANDING the most enormous federal government in history:

Sep 27, 1994

Government is too big, too intrusive, too easy with money.
Sensenbrenner signed the Contract with America:
This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.

Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
Require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
Select a major independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud, and abuse;
Cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
Limit the terms of all committee chairs;
Ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
Require committee meetings to be open to the public;
Require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase
Guarantee an honest accounting of our federal budget by implementing zero baseline budgeting

http://www.issues2000.org/House/James_Sensenbrenner_Government_Reform.htm
:rofl::spray:
:shrug:
Am I wrong here? ;-)
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 11:34 AM
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18. kick!
:dem: :kick: !!!!!

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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:39 PM
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19. Kick n/t
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 04:14 PM
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21. Reminds me of No Child Left Behind
which I suspect will also wind up being ignored by a lot of states before Chimpy's term limps to an end.

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