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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:56 PM
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DeLay: Democrats have 'no class'
Edited on Thu May-12-05 11:57 PM by dhinojosa
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/12/delay.dinner.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, facing an audience of conservative well-wishers who reject as politically motivated the ethics questions that have dogged him for months, on Thursday night fired back at Democrats by calling them members of a party with no ideas and "no class."

The Texas congressman's supporters -- among them a dozen conservative organizations -- staged a high-profile show of support by throwing a $250-a-plate gala in his honor that brought nearly 900 people to the Capital Hilton. The money will be used to pay for the event, organizers said.

When he took the stage after other speakers had hailed him for his leadership in the Republican Party and the House, DeLay made only a passing reference to the problems that have sparked calls for an ethics probe, joking that one speaker had told reporters about a foreign trip they didn't know about.

Instead, DeLay told the crowd that as Republicans helped Americans find jobs and helped the country recover from the September 11 terrorist attacks, Democrats offered the country nothing.

"No ideas. No leadership. No agenda. And, just in the last week, we can now add to that list, no class," DeLay said, a reference to Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid's remark to school children that President Bush was "a loser." Reid later apologized to Bush adviser Karl Rove.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:01 AM
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1. Being in a hot tub with your daughter and your friends is class??
Pouring champagne into the tub? Cheating your constituents? Abusing Homeland Security to chase a bunch of Democrats?

Whiner. You're such a whiner, DeLay.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:20 AM
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33. excellent points!
:kick:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:03 AM
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2. Hey...he's using that new Mehlman meme: Party of No
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:46 AM
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18. When Clinton was President: No U.S war dead; No deficits; No high gas tab.
Yes we're the party of no.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:07 AM
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41. you bet! . . . . No More Lies, No More Cheating, No More
WarMongering, No More Profiteering,

(I could go on)
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:08 AM
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58. Let's change the meme a bit.
Party of NO more tolerance for lies and deception. Party of NO more efforts to destroy the middle class. Party of NO more tolerance for Republican efforts to dismantle Social Security. Etc. Etc.

You get the idea. I think we need to nip this Party of NO bullshit right in the bud and turn it on them, quickly.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:03 AM
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3. I think he means Democrats prefer a classless society......
to one of strong class distinctions. Of course we are referring to economic/demographics. As far as class as social integrity?...............LOL! Delay doesn't know the definition of the word!
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:04 AM
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4. He should know.
x(
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:12 AM
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5. Hello pot and kettle.
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Ang_TX_LIB Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:14 AM
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6. Exactly, Delay has no room to talk.
but he should know since he has no class himself..:puke:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:15 AM
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7. Sounds like he's resorting to insults now!!! Sticks & stones
this doesn't really touch us!!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:22 AM
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8. Class? DeLay's only missing the 'C' and 'L.'
:shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:51 AM
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28. great one
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:17 AM
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43. Good one!
Unbe-friggen-lievable.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:33 AM
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9. A sow's ear ? Apologies to sows. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:35 AM
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10. agreed n/t.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:41 AM
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11. I guess they see slums and broken down cars and homeless
people as classy, since that is what they are busy creating...
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:45 AM
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12. Pot to kettle: You're so black! n/t
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The Middle West Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:49 AM
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13. Judging by his recent actions:
The Middle West would say that Mr. Delay should be casting no stones.
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:54 AM
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14. Them's fighting words
Way to heal the country.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:02 AM
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15. Stone... meet glass house.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:07 AM
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40. Maybe he will shatter it
Go Pack.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:36 AM
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46. A Packer fan too? Go Pack Go!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:59 AM
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55. Actually
I meant NC State (the poster has an NC State logo). The Packers are OK though (even though I'm a Panthers preferred seat licensee).
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:58 AM
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71. Actually I was just joking....
But GO PACK GO seems to work for both of us!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:30 AM
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16. This is why it's so important for Dems to stick to their guns
What does a bully do when you apologize? Call you more names and beat you up again. Rethugs have a schoolyard mentality. Instead of apologizing, Reid should have reasserted that Bush** is a loser, spat to punctuate it, and challenged the Rethugs to prove him wrong.

We'll never get anywhere if the Dems won't even defend their right to speak the truth.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:31 AM
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17. Wierd. Unreal. (nt)
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:08 AM
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19. So says the cockroach exterminator.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:41 AM
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20. And why this fundraiser, Tom?
Oh yeah, because you are the most corrupt and vile Congressperson shaking down business for legislation today. You'll look good in prison orange.
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PennyLane Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:50 AM
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21. God, That Hurts..........
......especially coming from that maven of social etiquette!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:04 AM
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22. Projecting!!
can we get a smiley with rolling eyes holding up a mirror? because that's what i'm feeling right now.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:43 AM
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23. How ironic...
...that a greasy, third-rate thug--who used to kill cockroaches for a living--thinks he can make a judgement about who has class.

I'll tell you what...Standing at the head of a banquet room in the Capitol Hilton and calling your opposition "classless" while your own crimes and amoral-corporate-whore stories are coming to light----is not the epitome of class.

It's arrogant, foolish and obscene--but certainly not classy.

We'll see how classy Tommy is when he's packing up his Swingline stapler and riding home to Texas on a Greyhound.

Bastage.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:14 AM
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24. Tom DeLay's class is in his sick ass and with CNN -
Like all cock-a-roaches DeLay runs and hid at the sight sign of light.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:17 AM
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25. How DARE this trash -- this PIG - tell me I have no class
Get out of my town and go back to killing insects in Texas, you ignorant little freak.
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bdot Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:21 AM
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26. "Republicans helped Americans find jobs"
Where? He must have not visited North Carolina lately.

I can see the Democrats as having no ideas but no class? He's just mad that people are pointing out how corrupt he is.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:49 AM
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27. Phyllis Shaftly --was singing DeLay's praises yesterday--saying the
conservative base loves him and what he is doing for America.
On this talk show (sorry, but forget which cable it was on)--they also showed a clip of Barney Frank saying the Repugs are not necessarily worried about running again a Dem--but fear running against a more conservative Republican.

....The Texas congressman's supporters -- among them a dozen conservative organizations -- staged a high-profile show of support by throwing a $250-a-plate gala in his honor that brought nearly 900 people to the Capital Hilton. The money will be used to pay for the event, organizers said.......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:56 AM
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29.  a few protesters showed up



The crowd dined on filet mignon and salmon and a dessert of red-white-and-blue frosted cake decorated with candy hammers, a reference to the nickname DeLay earned when he was House majority whip.

Several protesters shouted outside the hotel, some holding signs reading "Congress can't police itself" and "Congress--owned and operated by Tom DeLay."

"We're here tonight not because Tom needs our help but because we as conservatives continue to need his," said David Keene, president of the American Conservative Union, adding that DeLay is being "unfairly attacked."

Rep. Tom Feeney of Florida, while defending DeLay, said he thinks tighter ethics rules are inevitable. He supports a proposal to make lawmakers and congressional aides get their trips vetted by the ethics panel before they travel.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:40 AM
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36. Oh, geez - another "Shitkicker's Cotillion"
When is this crowd going to learn that you can't buy class? We Dems know that you're either born with it, you acquire it or you're taught it.

The first Bush inaugural was an exercise in bad taste. Prop cowboy boots all over the place. Come to think of it, EVERYTHING was in bad taste. All we in D.C. could think of was "this too shall pass."

Memo to all Texas GOP women: DO NOT wear your Lucchese cowboy boots with a Georgio Armani gown, and then pile on a sable coat and a designer handbag. That might work in Abilene, but not in Washington. You look ridiculous.

Talk about giving Texans a bad name!

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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:45 AM
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53. DeLay created lots of new jobs for Americans
Move to China and you will be able to get one of them.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:58 AM
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30. to delay, class=money. Democrats are the party of no money, huh tom?
you shouldn't be concentrating on all this backbiting on your way down, tom. you'll end up shunned and friendless.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:09 AM
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31. No class?
Consider the source, Tom.

:puke:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:50 AM
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49. Exactly.........
Democrats have no class? Well, republicans have no conscience.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:15 AM
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32. Tom this questions for you
A sphincter says what?

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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:34 AM
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34. Takes one to know one. eom
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:40 AM
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35. Stupid POS
is not in a position to call anybody anything. And Bush isn't simply a loser, he is a traitor.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:54 AM
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37. Sometimes when I look at Delay
I wonder just how MUCH his mother DRANK while he was in the womb (unless a Bird crapped him out and he hatched out in the sun)..

His face is the poster child for Fetal Alcohol Syndrome - if his eyes were any farther apart they'd be meeting near the back of his head, wonder if he can see around corners...

America would be a much greater nation if guys like him were picking up trash in Orange jumpsuits by the side of the road - I'd ride around all day with a sack full of rotten tomatoes just waiting for that perfect moment, when he was looking the other way and then..

Wait a minute, like I just said, he CAN'T look the other way, he's practically a freakin' Hallibut Now.

They're so proud that between him and Bush they've practically singlehandedly destroyed our country - what a perfect place for Legionaire's Disease to break out, a sick building full of sick people. (and that's not some kind of threat dear SS, thanks to these assholes there's enough pollution and non EPA standards to kill us ALL)..

If I was cooking for these guys I'd have taken a dump in the chocolate cake batter and grinned all night while serving them dessert.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:56 AM
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38. If Tom Delay is the definition of "class", I'm proud to be of no class
I would not want to be any cliche that Tom Delay uses to describe himself
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:04 AM
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39. Apologized to Karl Rove?
Nobody owes that prick anything, the fact that he is even allowed into the corridors of power offends me beyond belief.:grr:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:21 AM
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44. After all the Repukes have said/done...
Apologizing to any of them - especially Rove - should be out of the question.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:11 AM
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42. Republicans: Party of NO MIDDLE CLASS
They're destroying it as they can, so their will only be lords and serfs.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:29 AM
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45. Pot...Kettle...Black
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bdot Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:42 AM
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48. I have never seen a black pot.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:41 AM
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47. My contribution to his fundraiser
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:13 AM
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50. SOP: repugs always accuse you of THEIR crimes.
never fails. Want to know what wrongs they've committed? wait until they accuse you, then you'll know exactly.
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:43 AM
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51. DeLay "helped Americans find jobs"
And you can get one of those jobs if you move to China! Thank you Tom DeLay!
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:44 AM
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52. DeLay is the posterchild for why abortion needs to stay legal
If ever there was a fetus that ought to have been aborted...
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texanshatingbush Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:54 AM
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54. People who have "class"
.....never make observations about whether someone else has or does not have "class".

Indeed, I have always noticed that the "they have no class" opprobrium is usually uttered when the commenter's back is to the wall and he has nothing else with which to defend his actions.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:05 AM
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56. Oh how I wish someone with real 'class' like Senator Byrd could get a
Edited on Fri May-13-05 09:13 AM by bunny planet
chance to dress down 'Hot tub' Tom just like he did 'Cat-Killer' Frist yesterday.

Delay must go now. This is the only chance we've got to get rid of him. If he stays now there won't be another shot (not meant literally of course). I think we need to send lots of emails and make lots of phone calls in the next few days about Tom Delay's ethically challenged position of power. I feel instinctively that he is the key to bringing down this house of cards. So many people are afraid of his influence, if he were gone they'd start to sing like canaries.
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DebinTx Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:08 AM
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57. Only a classless, tasteless bore would comment on others' classiness.
Like that cockroach would know class if smacked him in the face!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:10 AM
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59. Unlike Cheney, who tells Sentors to Fuck themselves
...and then doesn't apologize.

Yeah - that's class
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:42 AM
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61. DeLay also refused to stop smoking a cigar in a gov't facility.
Where is this class, that he is mentioning?
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:21 AM
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60. all this from...
the sleazy prick who smokes cigars in no smoking sections then throws a fit when he's asked to leave.

fuck tom delay.
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dandrhesse Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:47 AM
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62. DeLay wouldn't know class if it bit him in the ass!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:59 AM
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63. Actually- Delay's sort of right
Edited on Fri May-13-05 10:01 AM by depakid
What have the Dems done lately?

"No ideas. No leadership. No agenda."

That's pretty much the long and short of it-

I'd even go further and add- no courage.

And before anyone flames me for saying that- come up with something positive that the democratic leadership has won OR EVEN FOUGHT HARD TO TRY TO WIN in the last 6 months.

And don't even say social security- the fact that the Republicans even think that they can even touch that third rail- not to mention blatantly lie while doing it- is testimony to the fact that as miserable a hypocrite as he is, Delay is sort of right in this instance.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:03 AM
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64. JUNE 6th SICK-OUT ! ! ! Time to send these bastards a message!
June 6th is the anniversary of D-Day and a perfect opportunity to start a counter attack of the elite right-wing sociopath that have stolen our government and brainwashed half the country.

It will be relatively easy and cost us one days work. Some industries could be shut down completely.

Let's do it! If we don't start to act now, there'll be nothing left of our democracy...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1776390&mesg_id=1776390
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:07 AM
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65. Yes, we have no class; that's because we GRADUATED!!!!!
Repukelickan dumbfucks!
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:09 AM
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66. Hey Tom, this Democrat has a message for you...


How's that for class, you neonazi piece of shit...
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:10 AM
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67. Supporting Sex Slavery And Sweatshops Is SOO Classy!
Actually, opposing them is.

He's seeming a little desperate.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:11 AM
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68. we aren't supposed to have "class"
We're the party of the people. So sorry, gov'nor.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:29 AM
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69. Hey, Tom... GO FUCK YOURSELF!
How's that for class, you ass?
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Red State Prisoner Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:54 AM
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70. Funny...
how this is newsworthy material. What a revelation! Sounds kind of Onionesque if you ask me. If this is news, let me make a contribution. "Area Democrat labels Republicans,'Party of the inbred'. There you go, a headline worthy of CNN's(webpage)front page.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:59 AM
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72. Hmmm. Democrats in WH = no national debt
Democrats in WH = prosperity
Democrats in WH = safety
Democrats in WH = security
Democrats in WH = jobs
Democrats in WH = education
Democrats in WH = opportunity

All of that just has to chap the republican's hide.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:25 PM
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73. Those were great days
and only 6 years ago. :(
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:42 PM
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74. Delay and his right wing well wishers are the ones with no class
I'm a lifelong democrat, and thank goodness, completely opposite of the likes of Tom Delay and his ilk, He has a clear agenda: cheating, stealing, lying and running his mouth,is just who he is. Those who support this crook are no different that he is. Delay can go to hell in
a hand-basket for all I care; he's not even close to being good enough to be in the company of any democrat. Oh by the way, will your fund raiser pay for another wedding or a month long vacation overseas again?

As far as Reid calling Bush a loser, he was right on the mark, and It's unfortunate that he felt the need to apologize for speaking the truth.
:thumbsdown: Tom Delay
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:14 PM
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75. No class, eh?
Edited on Fri May-13-05 02:15 PM by njdemocrat106
Before you accuse us, take a look at yourself. And the Republican party is indeed the party of ideas. BAD ideas.
F*ck you, DeLay.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:17 PM
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76. People who have to use the word "class"
don't have it.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:17 PM
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77. Delay: No shame
Put the asshole in jail where he belongs.
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