Military Training of Large Scale Held in Cuba (prep for invasion by US)

[Mika]

Military Training of Large Scale Held in Cuba
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=142&newsid=63814&ch=0&datte=2005-05-13

Havana. There were military trainings of a large scale in Cuba. During them the beating off of a possible attack on the part of the USA has been worked off, RIA Novosti informed.

I guess with the Bolton appointment moving right along.. :shrug:







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[Rex]

1. Everyone get ready!

Here comes the RAPTURE bus!

[Massacure]

2. Cuba would have a hell of a time trying to stop the U.S.

Being an island less than 100 miles from the country with the biggest navy in the world doesn't exactly help them.

Latin America would have a hissy fit over an invasion of Cuba though.

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[Massacure]

4. Iraq isn't surrounded 360 by water.

All the U.S. has to do is put a blockade on Cuba and hope a hurricane sweeps by.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. Cuba has a lot of coastline to blockade....

...and the US doesn't have the ships necessary to maintain their current committments AND blockade Cuba.

[Massacure]

8. Only need two or three carriers plus a support group.

The support group would be small with them being so close to the United States.

[FlemingsGhost]

14. Venezuela

Yeah ... Chavez just sits around and let's it happen.

[cliss]

15. My thoughts, exactly.

That's what they're after.....not Cuba.

[geek tragedy]

5. Did you celebrate 9/11 too?

Just trying to figure out under what circumstances you celebrate American deaths.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

7. I'm trying to figure out where you got the idea that the poster was....

...celebrating anyone's death.

[geek tragedy]

9. The use of the word "admirably" to describe the deaths of 1600

American troops. And the hope that the Cubans would do even better against the US (of course, no invasion is coming so the point is moot).

[UdoKier]

12. I think he meant admirably defending their country from invasion.

Much in the same way we have ignominiously invaded theirs.

I guess we're only supposed to respect the Iraqis that surrendered their homeland to the invaders?


What would we think of Americans that surrendered America to invading hordes of...whatever?

[IndianaGreen]

21. Many Germans and Japanese cheered their conquering armies

as they marched into Poland and the Philippines.

Many Americans cheered their conquering army as it marched into Iraq.

I see no difference between Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and the Holy American Empire!

[geek tragedy]

29. Anyone who can't see the difference between the Axis Powers

of WWII and the United States is more simplistic than the dumbest Freeper on earth.

[IndianaGreen]

30. Japan went into Southeast Asia looking for oil, just like we did in Iraq

Anyone that can't see the similarities between Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan to Bush's Holy American Empire is in deep denial.

[FlemingsGhost]

13. This was my post, I have no idea why it was deleted.

I broke no rules, as far as I can tell.

For those who read it, I stand by my words.

[IndianaGreen]

22. Perhaps you were not a "good" German...

The "good" Germans looked the other way when their Jewish neighbors disappeared. The "good" Germans did not complain when Hitler assumed dictatorial powers after the Reichstag burned. The "good" Germans supported their troops, and ignored the crimes against humanity their troops committed.

Then we had the "bad" Germans. The "bad" Germans wanted the collapse of the Third Reich and Hitler and his henchmen punished for their crimes. The "bad" Germans wanted the war to end and the Nazi military machine defeated and dismantled.

Unfortunately for us, many Americans fail to see how much they have become like the "good" Germans.

[Mika]

26. Noocular option = Reichstag burned.

Anything will be possible after that happens.

Executive order will be the rule of America post nuke option.

[geek tragedy]

28. And none of those things have happened in the US.

No ban on opposition parties, no death camps, etc etc.

But go ahead with the idiotic comparisons of the US to Nazi Germany. They only serve to further marginalize the cause of reflexive anti-Americanism.

[IndianaGreen]

31. I guess you are untouched by or uncaring about the PATRIOT Act

or the criminal invasion of Iraq. That tells us volumes about where you stand ideologically.

[geek tragedy]

32. You assume to much.

Of course they're bad things. But not all bad things are comparable. The Patriot Act and Auschwitz are not comparable.

[IndianaGreen]

33. Strawman argument

I was discussing the imperialism of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, not the Holocaust.

[geek tragedy]

35. All great military powers are imperialistic to one degree or another

But, if you can convince me that Canada and Mexico face a real threat of a US military invasion, I'll concede the point.

[geek tragedy]

27. Well, answer the question then.

Did you celebrate 9/11? Under what circumstances do you celebrate the deaths of Americans?

[IndianaGreen]

19. Cuba will beat the US if Bush invades

Think about! Ten million Cubans, trained and armed to the teeth against an American military already demoralize about Iraq. If you think Baghdad is bad for GIs, wait until they set foot in Santiago.

[Darranar]

34. Like Iraq?

Cuba has managed to resist US imperialism for over forty years now, I wouldn't underestimate it.

Castro certainly seems to enjoy more popular support than Saddam, too.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

10. I've lived in the Keys for a very long time,

and I don't want to imply that our military can't do things secretly and quietly when necessary. But my experience is that everytime Fidel farts crossways, there is an increased number of jets, helicopters and every other type of flying object buzzing the skies above the Florida Keys. If the US is planning an invasion, then they are certainly being atypically quiet about it. Haven't seen or heard anything out of the ordinary, and I was in Key West all week. But I imagine Castro routinely holds these exercises, if for no other reason than his rather large ego.

[Mika]

18. Right. The prior US invasion and US terra against Cuba was "Castro's ego".

The US has had no bad intentions in any of its past dealings with Cuba. What on earth would Cubans have to fear of lil' ol' us (& BushCrimeNazisInc)?
:sarcasm:

[tinfoilinfor2005]

24. Agree with every word you say...

I'm just saying that if a full military invasion is in the immediate works, there are no signs of increased flight activity at the nearest naval base, ninety miles away, as we have witnessed in previous crisis times.

[Mika]

25. Like the US invasion of Granada?

No advanced activity of that disgusting op.

My fear is that BushCrimeNazisInc will send in US troops to get mauled looking for flowers and candy (in the form of S Fla votes).






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[tinfoilinfor2005]

36. You are right about that...

Jeb is an extension of his brother, only with better hair and skin. Do not trust him in any way, shape or form.

[Judi Lynn]

11. People who aren't disposed to reading will believe this is threatening,

having no idea _Bush has had his administration speakers spewing fact-deficient statements on Cuba, since his very first months.

They probably are completely unaware he has loaded his administration with Cuban right-wing "exiles," who are deeply interested in grabbing the island and reinstating the ugly regime the Cubans threw out in the first place through a lengthy struggle against U.S. supported and weapons supplied Fulgencio Batista.

They probably are unaware his dad was intimately caught up in the Bay of Pigs, as well.

Good luck to the people of every country our right-wing intends to control.

[cliss]

16. An amazing fact:

the US comprises about 3.8% of the world's population, and we insist on jerking around the other 96%. Hard to believe.

[Mika]

17. There would be a welcoming party of about 50 Cubans (on the US payroll)..

.. aside from that small group almost every Cuban would open fire on any US invader they encountered.

No candy. No flowers. Not for 1 second.

Cuba's "insurgency" against a US invasion would make Iraq look like a cake walk.

They know all too well what the BushCrimeNazis have in mind for them, and they would resist tooth and nail. Plus, they are prepared for such an event. Now more than ever.






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[IndianaGreen]

23. You don't have a "Support the Troops" magnetic ribbon in your car

You must support our troops no matter how many innocent civilians they murder and torture. If GAWD tell Bush to invade Cuba, or Venezuela, we must rally and support the invading troops because that's What Jesus Would Do!

:sarcasm:

[flaminbats]

37. land mines of political opportunity for the neocons..

If such an attempt to overthrow Castro is a success, this would no longer be the central issue among Cuban-American voters. This would demolish passions driving the Bay of Pigs issue, which neocons have blamed on Kennedy to win these votes. Once this issue is gone, there will be no monopoly on Cuban votes. Democrats will have uncountable opportunities to blame incumbents for screw-ups occurring in occupied Cuba.

If Castro remains in power, Re pukes will be blamed for another bay of pigs. And if Cuba turns into a quagmire..it seems unlikely public support of this administration would increase.