More than 1,000 dead birds in China's Qinghai province (bird flu)

[Robbien]

The director of China's Ministry of Agriculture's veterinary bureau, Jia Youling, says more than 1,000 birds had been found dead up to May 26.

"Right now we have isolated the virus from different types of wild birds," said Jia. "Now we are still in the process of finalizing the genetic sequences, however, we have not found the genes that might be humanly pathogenetic like those found in south Asia."

China has previously admitted only 178 birds died from an outbreak of bird flu at a nature reserve in the western province of Qinghai. The dead birds include wild geese, gulls and cormorants.

A report sent by the bureau to the World Organization for Animal Health, claims the estimated date of primary infection of the birds was April 15 at Lake Qinghai, the nation's largest salt water lake.

According to the report tests confirming an outbreak of bird flu were carried out on May 18. Since then China has been conducting a massive containment effort as it attempts to vaccinate three million birds in the province.

http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/world/national/2005/05/27/birdflu050527.html

[alittlelark]

1. I wish them A LOT of luck!!!!

Really... a lot of luck. OK - I will pray (in an Atheistic way) that they are sucessful.

[Mnemosyne]

2. Didn't this happen before? n/t

[pandemic_1918]

3. Unprecedented

The over 1000 birds is the total so far. First it was 180, then 519, and now over 1000 (at least 5 species).

They are H5N1 positive and such a die-off has not been seen before

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05270502/H5N1_Qinghai_Unprecedented.html

Questions about the 121 dead people remain unanswered

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05260507/H5N1_Qinghai_121_Killed.html

[lovuian]

4. This is going to get ugly!!!

Hopefully China can get a hold of it!!!

[pandemic_1918]

5. News Blackout

China gets a hold of it by sending in troops and imposing a news blackout

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05260501/H5N1_Qinghai_Human_Blackout.html

[pandemic_1918]

6. China & India H5N1 Link

Linkage between China and India (two most populous countries in the world)

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&tab=nn&ie=UTF-8&q=h5n1+qinghai+india

[Mnemosyne]

9. Hi pan! What do you suggest?

Things are getting closer to becoming hairy, too close for me!
:shrug: :grr:

:hi:

[pandemic_1918]

22. Over 8000 Dead

Latest report has over 8000 bird flu deaths in Qinghai

http://news.google.com/news?q=h5n1%20qinghai%208000&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wn

[Mnemosyne]

7. Not good, at all.

pan has posted. He knows his stuff in this area. It sounds as if you also have more than a small interest in this! Do you feel there is much we can do to prevent this? It makes me glad to be a bit of a hermit now!
Argh! Why couldn't they have left it alone?!:shrug: :grr:

:hi:

[pandemic_1918]

10. GAO: INFLUENZA PANDEMIC: Challenges Remain in Preparedness

Comments on the GAO comments on US unpreparedness for a pandemic

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05300502/Pandemic_Plan_Unprepared.html

[Mnemosyne]

11. Anything we can do as individuals pan?

"Reports from Chinese language papers detail over 200 suspected infections in over two dozen locations in Qinghai Province. In the most affected 18 regions, there are 121 deaths, generating a case fatality rate above 60%.

Even if only a small fraction of the deaths are H5N1 linked, the cases would move the bird flu pandemic stage from 5 to the final stage 6, representing sustained human-to-human transmission of H5N1."

This is not good at all.

Thanks

[pandemic_1918]

12. No News

There hasn't been much news out of Qinghai. Some outside investigation, but I don't think anyone has come up with much more than the official denials.

[Mnemosyne]

13. No news is NOT good news

in this case.

:banghead: :popcorn:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Have you read the book "The Great Influenza" by John M. Barry?.....

QUOTE:

Pages 4-5:

"One cannot know with certainty, but if the upper estimate of the death toll is true as many as 8 to 10 percent of all young adults then living may have been killed by the virus.

And they died with extraordinary ferocity and speed. Although the influenza pandemic stretched over two years, perhaps two-thirds of the deaths occurred in a period of twenty-four weeks, and more than half of these deaths occurred in even less time, from mid-September to early December 1918. Influenza killed more people in a year than the Black Death of the Middle Ages killed in a century; it killed more people in twenty-four weeks than AIDS has killed in twenty-four years.

The influenza pandemic resembled both of those scourges in other ways also. Like AIDS, it killed those with the most to live for. And as priests had done in the bubonic plague, in 1918, even in Philadelphia, as modern a city as existed in the world, priests would drive horse-drawn wagons down the streets, calling upon those behind doors shut tight in terror to bring out their dead."

[Mnemosyne]

8. Forgot,

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[Mojorabbit]

15. UNDIAGNOSED DISEASE, POULTRY - BRAZIL

http://tinyurl.com/72pg6
Mato Grosso do Sul culls 17 000 poultry with respiratory illness
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Iagro (State Agency for Animal and Plant Health Protection) announced
yesterday <30 May 2005> that the previous weekend it had culled 17 000
chickens in a poultry farm affected by a disease with respiratory symptoms
in Jaraguari (30 km from Campo Grande) , in Mato Grosso
do Sul.

According to Iagro, besides the 17 000 culled, about 6000 birds had already
died from the disease. The farm and 107 neighboring properties were
quarantined by Iagro.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. Getting closer, isn't it?

[pie]

17. Brazil to the US must be a common bird migration route

I wonder how many of those migrating species
are or could become avian flu carriers?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

18. Check out some of these articles from a Google search....

...this stuff has already hit the US bird population.

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=turkey+virginia+avian+flu&btnG=Google+Search>

Future waves may be carrying the mutated virus that is capable of jumping from human to human.

[Waistdeep]

19. Not the same...

The strain to worry about is H5N1. There is no record of any birds on this continent infected with H5N1.

[XemaSab]

20. It's migration time

The birds that winter in China have moved north into Siberia and Alaska, the birds that winter in the contiguous US have moved into Alaska, and the birds that winter in Brazil have moved north into the US. Plenty of opportunity for bird flu to spread.

There's been a huge amount of rain in California this winter, and west Nile rates are going to be high. Not as scary as bird flu, by a long shot, but still very detrimental to the crows.

[pie]

21. I suppose it's bound to show up sooner than later