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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:15 PM
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WP: Bush Is Expected to Address Specifics on Iraq
Bush Is Expected to Address Specifics on Iraq

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 16, 2005; Page A08

White House officials acknowledged yesterday that the public's gloomy mood about the Iraq war is forcing President Bush to take a more assertive and public role to reassure nervous Americans and Republican lawmakers about the White House plan for victory.

Bush had hoped the successful January elections in Iraq would boost the popularity of the conflict and allow him to distance himself from it. But his aides have concluded that recent events in Iraq have contributed to an erosion in support for the president -- and that he needs to shift strategies. Bush's new approach will be mostly rhetorical, however, as the White House does not plan any changes to the policy or time frame for bringing home the 140,000 U.S. troops, as some lawmakers are demanding.

"The president takes seriously his responsibility as commander in chief to continue to educate the American people about the conduct of the war and our strategy for victory," said Dan Bartlett, a senior adviser. As part of the new focus, Bush will meet with Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari at the White House for the first time next week and dedicate several speeches to the war, including a major address on the first anniversary of Iraq's sovereignty this month, White House officials said.

Bush, who had hoped to spend this summer focusing on Social Security, is instead being forced to defend his economic record and war policies in the face of growing uneasiness among the public and Republicans in Congress. His poll numbers on his handling of Iraq have dropped to all-time lows, as numerous lawmakers, including some Republicans, have accused him of not offering honest assessments about the strength of the insurgency and slow pace of training battle-ready Iraqi forces.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061502184.html
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:16 PM
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1. I bet his first press conference on the matter will be at 2:30pm tomorrow
:eyes:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:18 PM
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5. You know he will. The "Justice Sunday" organizers did something similar
They said one of the participants could only be available for press questions at 2:30pm. That just happened to be the exact same time that the "Freedom and Faith" rally to protest the "Justice Sunday" event was to start. Many of the press left Central Presbyterian to head out to the mega-church.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:22 PM
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7. Well then, Conyers and crew..
.. will have to put things on hold while the idiot prince runs his mouth.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:40 PM
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18. And if the press corp has any guts they
will be absent again like they were last time and instead go to Conyers meetings. Come on MSM show us that you still know how.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:37 PM
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79. bush as NOTHING TO SAY - DON'T BOTHER
bush is a walking dead man
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:42 PM
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80. My money is on 3:00 pm
The later the better. You know how these pukes operate.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:16 PM
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2. Are we going to get those monthly status reports he promised two years ago
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:40 PM
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17. No.
I'LL be honest wth you, anyway. :)
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:52 AM
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46. that's the first thing--
--that came to my mind, too. And one year ago, he promised 5 "substantive" speeches on Iraq over a 5-week period but delivered only one, full of the usual banalities.

Why doesn't this asshole actually DO something? Everything with this White House is PR, it's never about deeds or policy.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:24 PM
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78. I remember those promised speeches too
last summer, before the turnover, during the campaign, he was supposed to lay out his plan in great detail.

We got one stump speech, and then no one said a word about it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:17 PM
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3. Why don't they just tell it like
it is..and say bush is ready to smirk some more LIES about Iraq on the former(?) somnolent Americans?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:17 PM
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:23 PM
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8. With some of these sprinkled in:
"It's hard work."

"But we're making really good progress."

"25 million people are free."
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:22 AM
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55. Do you think he'll dare to say "The world is a safer place without Saddam
Hussein"?

That used to be a favorite. I'm wondering if he can pull that one off anymore. MKJ
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:26 AM
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56. He's used it in the last few weeks. Amazing.
They are sticking to their message something fierce.

Definition of insanity.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:35 PM
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13. Well, the article does say the happy talk will continue which will just
continue to show him as divorced from reality.

"Bush has no plans to change his upbeat assessment of Iraq, where fresh waves of attacks since the beginning of last month have killed nearly 100 Americans and many more Iraqis. Vice President Cheney recently said the insurgency is in its "last throes," a claim he did not back away from when asked this week, contradicting reports that Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) and Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) brought back from their recent trip to Iraq."


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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:09 PM
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27. You forgot 350 references to terrists
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:19 PM
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6. WILL HE ADMIT TO LYING US INTO THIS WAR?
Will he fully answer the questions that John Conyers will present to him tomorrow? EVER?

Not unless he is shackled and brought up in front of the public in a courtroom and FORCED to answer them.

That won't happen. Meanwhile, he'll make some fluffy feel-good speeches and the Sheeple will swallow all that nice cotton-candy and everything will just be glossed over and forgotten.

Or. Maybe NOT.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:31 PM
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10. You forgot..."we're fighting them there so
we don't have to fight them here".
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:45 PM
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20. I doubt that he will be at the WH when the senators
deliver our petition. If I remember correctly when there was a protest march planned for something his poppy left town. Like father like son.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:52 AM
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67. Perhaps we will need to have Max Cleland deliver it to Crawford!
Or where ever the dim son is hiding out. I am out of invective with which to describe * (and I was sailor)!
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:30 PM
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9. Bush didn't hope to spend the summer focusing on Social Security...
He hoped to spend the summer jacking off at his pig farm in Waco while uncle Dick figured out another 9/11 "event" to drop on the sheeple.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:33 PM
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11. what xray s said
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:39 PM
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16. Bush is searching for an "Exit Strategy" from Social Security NOT Iraq.
Exit Strategy on Social Security Is Sought
GOP Leaders Cite an Impasse With Democrats on Proposed Private Accounts

With the Senate Finance Committee at an impasse on Social Security and House leaders anxious about moving forward, Republican congressional leaders have told the White House in recent days that it is time to look for an escape route.

Senate GOP leaders, in discussions with White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and political officials, have made it clear they are stuck in a deep rut and suggested it is time for an exit strategy, according to a senior Senate Republican official and Finance Committee aides.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061502300.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1552722
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:21 PM
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32. In other words he's more concerned with saving his own ass
than the lives of the soldiers in Iraq.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:44 PM
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19. "Jackin' off" is hard work! Its...hard...hard work...
Especially for that friggin' moron.

Head on down to your "ranch" Georgie...Uncle Dick and Uncle Karl will take care of everything.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:17 AM
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43. No wonder W's right hand
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 05:19 AM by DoYouEverWonder
always looks bruised and scabbed.




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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:51 AM
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53. Maybe he keeps banging up his face because he's
going blind. :think:
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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:44 AM
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62. May I offer a clarification?
Remembering Pickles' speech to the WH Correspondents' dinner, shouldn't that be "he hoped to spend the summer jacking off horses at his farm?"
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:34 PM
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12. I hope he does give a speech....
With the exception of the brain-dead and the morans who think God put him in office, people don't trust him anymore.

I think his numbers will go down even further, I think the puppet-masters know this, and that's why I'm willing to bet the coward won't show his face in prime-time anytime soon.
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:36 PM
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14. The best damn line of the entire article:
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 10:37 PM by MarkTwain
"Bush's new approach will be mostly rhetorical..."

Huh?

So, let's get this right.

The bastard is plummeting in the pools. After almost six years: the singular most devastating attack on our shores during his watch, thousands of American dead and maimed and hundreds of thousands dead and maimed in Iraq in his war for oil, a pitiful economy, an abject rejection of his primary domestic flagship, the "reform" of Social Security, and most of the the GOP congress critters and Senators starting to run for cover in fear of their re-election.

....and, they are not changing policy.

They are changing the rhetoric of a man whose probable inability to spell the word rhetoric is exceeded only by the manner in which he would most likely mispronounce it. Moreover, they are putting this asshole in charge of selling this new rhetoric to the American public.

Oh, yeah. Good plan. Great plan.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:18 AM
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37. Lol -- Bush**'s OLD approach is mostly rhetorical
I just want to get the imbecile under oath to answer questions about Iraq. Like how did doubling the bombing raids from May '02 onward fit into your plan of "peaceful resolution"? Some of the people you were killing with your "bombs of peace" were civilians who weren't in a position to tell Saddam what to do.

WAR CRIMINAL!! IMPEACH!!!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:47 AM
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40. Rhetorical on growing the economy and winning the war. I can hardly

wait!!!!

.....Bush will streamline his message on the two issues White House strategists blame for the president's lower-than-ever poll numbers. "In the coming weeks, the president will sharpen his focus on the two big issues facing the American people: growing our economy and winning the war," Bartlett said.

A top White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Bush is not dropping Social Security, but believes he needs to show voters he has a plan to lower gasoline prices and prevail in Iraq. "These are two powerful forces" shaping views of Bush, the official said.

Nearly six in 10 Americans in a Gallup poll released this week said they support withdrawing some or all U.S. troops from Iraq, the highest level ever recorded for that question. Several lawmakers who supported the war are considering backing a resolution that calls on Bush to do that.

Bush, however, offers a generally optimistic view of Iraq that aides say comes from what he sees as substantial long-term progress. The president considers the January elections that allowed the United States to turn over more control of security one of the biggest triumphs of the broader battle against terrorism. He also believes the Iraqis are moving closer to a deal to form a new government and are creating a functioning security force that will eventually allow the United States to pull out.,,,,,,,
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 06:28 AM
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47. "the bastard is plummeting in the pools" eh?
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 06:43 AM by leftchick
hmmm.... ;)
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:38 PM
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15. I had feeling he was going to pull this shit... and it will be tomorrow
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 10:38 PM by Rainscents
during Conyers hearing. You sick baster! When areyou going to stop pulling this shit???
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:51 PM
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24. These guys are unbelievable!! When will the rest of the country
wake the fuck up!!

"Well, heh heh...there's a rumor goin' 'round that I...we...had planned this war in Iraq before 9-11. I don't know where people are gettin' that idea...it's just not true. We went to Iraq and removed a brutal dictator...a man who killed hundreds and thousands of people. We have brought democracy to this country and freedom is on the march! We are fightin' the terra-ists over there so the American people can sleep safely at night. Freedom is on the march, democracy is on the march...

We tried to resolve this peacefully and Saddaam ignored our every effort. Our only choice was to go to war and to remove this savage dictator. Did I mention that freedom is on the march?"

Or something like that.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:14 PM
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29. If you're worried about that, immediately start writing news firms...
... and tell them that you're "curious" about Conyers and the DSM(s). Then get 100 of your friends to do the same.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #29
70. I am gathering with 500 people in downtown protesting this afternoon!!!
I have written many, many letters!!!
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:46 PM
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21. Things will be strong, and getting stronger.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:48 PM
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22. They refuse to face up to reality, or responsibility
The neocons, led by Nobrain Bush, seems to feel that somehow, all they need is to tinker with the image, and things will be fine. No, it won't. It won't change what's going on, and the rah rah speeches are just going to be more of the same.

The upbeat feeling he's trying to project is the same old tired lies the administration has been forcing down our throats since this illegal war started. It would never occur to him to change the things that are wrong. He won't...can't...do that. What he likes to call "resolve" is nothing but sheer pig headed stubbornness. Gawd, they make me sick.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:50 PM
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23. We don't need no stinking education (education = lie to the people)
"responsibility as commander in chief to continue to educate the American people about the conduct of the war and our strategy for victory"
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:12 AM
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65. I am so goddamn sick of that hectoring, lecturing
tone to everything he says. And he smirks while he's doing it. He's a sadistic little asshole with MAJOR mental health issues that should have been addressed long ago.

Christ!...I'm in such an ugly mood anymore.

OT: I went to vote in the Primary on Tues. Late in the afternoon. My ballot was marked #0009 - I was only the 9th Democrat to vote that day. The woman ahead of me was a Repug. I wanted to slap the livin' shit out of her ugly face. :banghead:
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:51 PM
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25. Someone posted this on DU several months ago...
"United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of
turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist
campaign to disrupt the voting. According to reports from Saigon, 83 percent
of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of
them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong. A successful election has
long been seen as the keystone in President Johnson's policy of encouraging
the growth of constitutional processes in South Vietnam."

- Peter Grose, in a page 2 New York Times article titled, 'U.S. Encouraged
by Vietnam Vote,' September 4, 1967.

History seems to repeat itself.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #25
82. Thank you for posting that.
I hadn't remembered. :hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:01 PM
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26. blah blah blah
bullshit bullshit horsehit
blah blah blah
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:11 PM
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28. Prediction: Bush will only make it worse
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 11:12 PM by Writer
Just like Social Security: the more people hear him now that we're almost 4 years beyond 9/11, the less people will have faith in this false profit.

Man the spindoctors, Left. The Repubs are going to try to make battery acid into chocolate milk.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:14 PM
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30. How about addressing specifics like...
why he LIED?!?!?!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:17 PM
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31. He was supposed to do this with his 6-speech series last year
wasn't he?
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:29 AM
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35. That's what I thought, too
Hasn't he already tried to spin this endlessly without success?

He can babble at his phony press conferences for days on end, but nothing he says changes the facts on the ground - it's an absolute bloodbath for soldiers and civilians alike. His crap won't bring back the dead, won't change the lies that preceded this war, won't change a single mind. No one except the religiously crazed are listening to him any longer.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:22 AM
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33. Ya see, lying is hard work, I know, because I do a lot of lying
so I know what it's like, ya see.bush is a rotten miserable bastard.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:25 AM
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34. Who will be pumping the words into his earpiece? Everyone knows this
Crap-For-Brains couldn't figure out how to get a C- at Yale by himself!
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:52 AM
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36. Iraqnam Accomplished
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:32 AM
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38. This will resolve the issue because Boosh will babble on
and on about the reality Karl Rove has created in Iraq. I'm sure a new distraction is comin soon.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:36 AM
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39. Three words..... After Downing Street, Bush.....
It's long since past due and the leaves have fallen........America is fed up with your sniveling exscuses......And we've finally reached past downing street. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:thumbsdown:

:yourock:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:57 AM
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41. umm... he will have a 'slight shift" from what cheney has been saying.





.....In a slight shift from what Cheney has been saying, Bush will say that some of the Iraqi troops are more prepared than others, a top official said.

Even some Democrats say Bush could turn things around if he spoke frankly about what has been done and the obstacles to finishing the job.

Bush has often avoided commenting on the situation in Iraq in deference to the fledgling government, concerned he might complicate its work. "The idea of giving them space was the right move, but we also have to take into consideration his responsibility to educate the American people," the top official said.

Still, White House officials say Bush's fate is tied to events on the ground. They said Bush is pushing hard for the Iraqi government to meet this year's deadlines for writing a new constitution and finalizing a government.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:02 PM
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69. "Tied to events on the ground"?
It's been one colossal failure since the start.......Now he simply stands up and advocates attacking Iraqn....Somebody's thinking backwards again.... :mad: :mad: :mad: :banghead:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:59 AM
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42. I wonder why the title says "specifics" whe the article says "rhetorical"
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:17 AM
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44. So, because of the polls that he claims he does not follow, he will now
appear to be concerned about Iraq in an attempt to fool the people into thinking he has always cared about Iraq.

The only reason to listen to Shrub is to mock him and make note of his plethora of ignorant statements.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:24 AM
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45. Mission Accomplished, what happened to that? nt
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 06:44 AM
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48. Incredible...just fucking incredible
had hoped the successful January elections in Iraq would boost the popularity of the conflict (read HIS war) and allow him to distance himself from it

all about HIM

aides have concluded that recent events in Iraq have contributed to an erosion in support for the president

all about HIM

Bush's new approach will be mostly rhetorical

well, THAT'S certainly going to help

So, to sum up - they intend to tweak the talking points, because it is APPEARANCES that matter. The conflict isn't popular, and people are nervous, so let's change the talking points.

I cannot even BEGIN to describe how much I despise what these asshats are doing to this country.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:11 AM
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49. "to educate the American people..."
Just fucking :wow:
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:23 AM
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86. THAT got me too .. ("educate")
OMG... the irony of that word. If the people would self-educate, he'd never have gotten this far. Thank god the polls show they might be waking up from this too-long brainwashed slumber.



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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:20 AM
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50. kick
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:43 AM
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51. "Boost the popularity" of the conflict?

It's all PR to these guys. Disgusting,

rcm
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:44 AM
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52. will the US MEDIA really look for specifics or something to "allow him
to distance himself from Iraq."
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:12 AM
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54. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I hope the battery in his receiver arcs, and we get to hear Smirk's own thoughts on things.

Iraq...Freedom...Fries...bring it on...flight suit...
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:29 AM
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57. This Will Be Their Idea Of "Specifics": "Well SPECIFICALLY
we're in Iraq to spread freedom!"

Chimpy's idea of of giving specifics will be to SAY the word "specific" a lot and then just follow it up w/ all the same Orwellian bullshit he always says about Iraq. Just watch.
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speedingbullet Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:31 AM
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58. I Won't Be Watching
Let me know if he comes clean and admits that his Iraq venture is a total cluster-fuck.
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:25 AM
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87. I can't watch him either
I know we are obligated to bear witness to the evil of our times, yadda, yadda... but I just can't watch him - it kills me.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:36 AM
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59. Two sentences leap out of this article.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 08:37 AM by gordianot
They are:

1. "Even some Democrats say Bush could turn things around if he spoke frankly about what has been done and the obstacles to finishing the job."

I just wonder which Democrats said that? When has Bush ever been frank, and if he was how would that change anything?

2. "Still, White House officials say Bush's fate is tied to events on the ground."

Just what is Bush's fate? What events the continued slaughter of American troops and Iraqi's, when has that ever been acknowledged or even been expressed as a concern by Bush?

It would be easier to teach clams to whistle. A classic example of modern American journalism.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:11 PM
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76. Just to add to your point 2...
2. "Still, White House officials say Bush's fate is tied to events on the ground."

So far, the situation has been been an ongoing disaster with each passing day and only now is this reporter suggesting that Bush's fate is tied to that disaster. What about all of 2004? Shouldn't this premise been set forth by this reporter back then?
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:38 AM
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60. Wanna buy some wood?
*snicker, snicker*

:banghead:
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:41 AM
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61. Gee
What else do we need to know? Insurgents are in their last troes, freedom is on the march, chocolates and flowers for the troops, dancing in the street, cakewalk.....
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:51 AM
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63. "Educate" the American people. What a joke.
We use more sources of information than he does. And we actually read them.

Get ready for the twitchiest, whiniest, most non-sensical, most defensive presentation.

Then the MSM will call it a huge success.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:52 AM
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64. *'s humiliation almost complete:
Saddam's oppressed people rout Shrub from Iraq.

BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW! Send the True Believers (Rummy, GW, DC, etc.) to fix it. They're good at "fixing".
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:28 AM
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66. One thing I noticed, after rereading this thread
In the article, it says "Bush had hoped the successful January elections in Iraq would boost the popularity of the conflict and allow him to distance himself from it."

So much for his boasting even before 9-11 that he believed that being a successful "War President" would ensure him a glorious legacy, and upstage his dad. If the war were going well, instead of trying to distance himself from it, we would be hearing non-stop about his glorious leadership.

He's too stubborn to do the right thing, and get out right away. These thugs make me sick.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:06 PM
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81. I went back and re-read the article, too.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 07:58 PM by cliss
There are some strange things being reported in that article. Amazing stuff, really.

"Bush expected to address Specifics on Iraq". Notice the title. We assume that Bush at long last is going to get specific. But nowhere in the article is it mentioned that he really is going to. Underneath a silly photo of Bartlett, he says "The president will sharpen his focus soon". = meaning, NOT NOW.

"Bush plans to address the progress of troop training soon". Notice, again soon, not now.

"RumsFailed and Cheney have said 160,000 Iraqi troops are functioning, a number many dispute." = I'd say that's an understatement. Where the hell are these people?

"In a slight shift from what Cheney has been saying, Bush will say that some of the Iraqi troops are more prepared than others.." = what the hell does this mean? I'll be curious to hear his retarded explanation on this.

This article is filled with contradictions and desperate rhetoric to keep the Americans placated. It gives a read-between-the-lines look at this administration. You can see the confusion, subterfuge, lack of communication amongst themselves, and general chaos reigning in Washington.:smoke:
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:58 AM
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68. Dan Bartlett - mouthpiece for memogate.

Hey Dan. Crawl back into the fungus cave where you belong, and cuddle with your species.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:06 PM
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71. How do you pronounce Donald Rumsfeld's name in Iraqi?
Answer: Robert MacNamara.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:17 PM
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72. as aids frantically prepare "SCRIPT" for the talking Monkey
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RalphReedsWreckedEm Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:47 PM
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73. You know, it's "hard work"
People are working hard, they're doing some hard work.

It's hard.

Some folks are working hard....to protect America.

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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:59 PM
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74. *
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:06 PM
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75. This van der Hei jerkoff always has jackass headlines like this
When the fuck has Bush ever addressed specifics? He'll just plug in some variation (it will vary on the scale from near total to total incoherence) of his answer to the DSM question with Blair last week.

And remember people, the bigfoot Democrats (Kerry, Lieberman, Biden etc, even Dean) have not backed away from their belief along with 10% of the population that we need more troops in Iraq!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:23 PM
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77. Bush launching a public relations campaign to try to calm anxieties
By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
11 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Facing growing pressure to bring troops home from Iraq, President Bush is launching a public relations campaign to try to calm anxieties about the war.


Bush scheduled a major address for June 28, the one-year anniversary of the transfer of sovereignty from the U.S.-led coalition to Iraqis. Four days before that, he will meet at the White House with Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, who heads the transitional government chosen after January elections.

The president also plans a series of radio addresses and appearances outside Washington. He will emphasize the importance of democracy in Iraq and elsewhere when he meets with fellow world leaders in Gleneagles, Scotland, in July, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

The president's campaign comes as the U.S. death toll in Iraq has climbed above 1,700. A relentless wave of suicide bombings, kidnappings and beheadings has killed at least 1,070 just since al-Jaafari's government was announced April 28.

~snip~
more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050616/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush/nc:693;_

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Skypilot 18 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:40 PM
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83. Expected to Address Specifics on Iraq
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 07:45 PM by Skypilot 18
Specifics

Bush thinks that's an ocean somewhere. How can you get more Specific Ocean than that. (?)

next question (what a fukkkking idiot he must be. what idiots we must be to still listen to anything that piece of shiiiittt says?)
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 03:45 AM
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84. Translation of Headline:
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 03:49 AM by bling bling
"Once Bush's paid employees in some Washington think-tank find new ways to frame the Iraq situation using spin, embellished facts, and flat-out-lies, Bush will read their prepared speech on t.v. and claim that he's addressing specifics."


Edit to add: And then the media will hop out of his pocket, race to their microphones, and coo, drool over, and cheer his glorious "home run" of a speech to his nation.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 04:05 AM
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85. hmm
dang press interfering with his fantasyland.....
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:26 AM
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88. oh let's see, his lips will move and more bs will spew out
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:48 AM
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89. He'll be turning so many corners, he'll be back in a circle.... OH! That
is either the plan all along, or just the same ol' outcome.
A circle jerk.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:59 AM
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90. The circular BS MINUS
by tortuously careful prose, any thing that will connect him to the DSM or any need to deny the truth outright.

Let's see if he can outslick the slick Willy, but believe me, unless they are against the wall they won't get close.

And for us at least that is more satisfying evidence of the enormity of what he has to hide.

Al Capone Bush is going to edjicate the people. Just another well heeled, over bred thug in an expensive suit. ?pm on a Friday to smooth out and disappear the diaster that is Bush speaking to the people.

A bitter LOL.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:19 AM
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91. Right. He'll just lie to support his previous lies.
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