Clinton hits governor on White House aide's Sept. 11 comments

[sabra]

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http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=3513330

Clinton hits governor on White House aide's Sept. 11 comments

WASHINGTON Senator Hillary Clinton demanded today that Governor Pataki "repudiate" a top White House advisor's comments about liberals delivered while Pataki sat nearby onstage.

Clinton joined other Senate Democrats who called on Karl Rove to apologize or resign for his comments last night in Manhattan to the New York state Conservative Party.

Rove, President Bush's chief political advisor, said liberals -- quote -- "saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

Rove said that Conservatives, on the other hand, saw the savagery "and prepared for war."

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[mzmolly]

1. Coordinated/righteous indignation.

Lovin it! :toast:

[Cocoa]

2. more

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/nyc-hilrove0624,0,4578662.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

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Clinton said Rove's remarks don't reflect the unity among New Yorkers and Americans of all political stripes after the terror attacks of 2001.

"I would also call on Gov. Pataki to repudiate these comments. He was at that dinner last night," said Clinton.

"I would call on anyone who was at that dinner who is a New Yorker who cares about the unity of not only New York City but of our country to say we may have disagreements about what the best way is to win the war against terror, but we have no disagreements about our unity and our resolve and the goals we seek."

A spokesman for Gov. Pataki did not immediately comment on Clinton's criticism.

She raised the issue earlier in the day with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at a Senate Armed Services Committee.

"I'm old enough to remember how deeply divided our country was in Vietnam. I never want to see that again," said Clinton.

"We may have disagreements about how to engage in this conflict and how to win it, but I never want to live through that again and I don't think any of us do so I would respectfully suggest that perhaps we adopt a somewhat different tone."

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[tavalon]

20. Clue phone for H. Clinton

"I'm old enough to remember how deeply divided our country was in Vietnam. I never want to see that again," said Clinton.

Too late, hon, we are headed right down that path. Give us a draft and it will be exactly the same, maybe even worse because people will really see that we've been taken down the same fucking path again.

[DFWJock]

3. And the chickenhawk rethugs

"prepared for war" by running the opposite direction.

[Mojambo]

4. Ya notice how we're talking about inappropriate comments these days

And NOT the DSM?

That's kind of a shame.

Rove and Cheney come out and say a bunch of stupid shit and immediately are able to change the subject.

Once again the Neocons fall back on America's (liberals included) 9/11 blindspot to get away with murder and treason.

[catzies]

5. Good catch. Knowing Rove and his tactics, this was deliberate.

:puke:

[jsamuel]

6. Good point, Dems can include a blurb or two about the DSM in these statmts

That will keep both in the spot light and give the DSM more weight!

[bunny planet]

8. Guess Dems will just have to multitask and work DSM into the conversation

Perhaps KKKarl has just made a big mistake.

It could happen.

[Mojambo]

9. I'm confident the Dems want to talk DSM

But the corporate media, now conveniently given something else to talk about, will likely shun coverage of the DSM.

The Democrats will have to work harder than they have been to get this story its legs back.

[Cha]

7. rove is the gift that keeps on

giving..haha..pataki sits on stage. Brilliant! WAy to get New Yorkers involved along with 9/11 belonging to all of us not just the ones who let it happen.

[Judi Lynn]

10. Why not locate the film segment showing him sitting with his teeth hanging

out, while Rove tried to capitalize on the attack on the Towers. It could be played over and over again showing him beaming and nodding while the maggot spewed his politically ambitious yet shabby ravings.

Have they lost their bearings or WHAT? Why keep giving them passes, anyway? They need to BE as responsible as they claim to be.

[bunny planet]

11. I think I"ll write a little note to Governor Pataki.

Absolutely he must be pressured to repudiate Rove's remarks. Plenty of liberals lost family members on 9/11. Plenty of liberals had family members sign up with the military because they wanted to defend their country and go after Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, and were instead sent to Iraq based on lies and deceipt. This is outrageous. How much more of this lethal hypocrisy and lies are we supposed to take. They are skating on thin ice.

[returnable]

12. Rudy and Bloomberg should be called to the carpet, too...

:kick:

[bluestateguy]

13. Rove is a chickenhawk, And he's fat.

This liberal was pretty damn outraged when we were attacked on 9/11, and I swallowed my partisanship, and tried as best as I could to support Bush, even though he did not legitimatley win in 2000.

So you can imagine I was pretty pissed off that the bin Laden family and the Saudi royal family was given special escort out of the US by the FBI, and we then proceeded to attack a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

[evolvenow]

14. THere is a nice spot in the HAGUE for R*ve and all his Murderers.

[quiet.american]

15. No, Rove, conservatives laughed about hitting the "trifecta." n/t

[Pithy Cherub]

16. Especially LOVE the way Hillary did it in Pataki's face!

Now take that freeper NY governor! :rofl:

[jsamuel]

17. The Rep. party has become so dependent on the * admin, they can't talk ...

for themselves without consulting their master...

These people are getting weak :)

[AzDar]

18. "...prepared for war"....Yeah, against a country that had NOTHING to do

with the 9/11 attacks. Time to stop playing nice with these ruthless,
evil, opportunistic bastards...Especially KKKoncentration KKKamp KKKarl!!!

[drduffy]

19. Rove is trying to pull attention away from DSM

and from the failures in Iraq

and from the creation of an army in Iraq to invade Iran

and from the torture of prisoners at 'facilities' all over the world

and from the PNAC goals to dominate the world

and from..... you name it.

Rove is simply a p.o.s., fat and slug-like. When peak oil and the depression hits, his 'fortunes' won't be worth very much, will they?

[Frances]

21. I think we should attack Rove for saying that Repubs prepared

for war.

Repubs started a war--but they didn't prepare for it properly or we wouldn't have lost over 1700 American lives in Iraq.

Dems would have prepared for war the way Clinton prepared for the war in Bosnia where we lost not one single American life.

[Lisa]

22. Bush has used a very similar "therapy" comment in his speeches

Literally dozens of times. I've only seen him make a positive reference to (psychiatric) therapy once -- more often he implies that it doesn't work, or that it's associated with weak or corrupt people.


For example:

"They probably thought that we were so selfish and self-absorbed and materialistic that after they hit us, we would try to understand them -- (laughter) -- take a step back, and maybe get them some therapy. (Laughter.) As we've seen this weekend, as we see in the past, there's only one therapy, and that's to bring them to justice, which is exactly what the United States is going to do. (Applause.)"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021014-4.html


p.s. Just about the only thing the White House is recycling these days is their "humor".

[LiberalAndProud]

24. It's a talking point.

Oxycontin Limpbawl was using it before I had to quit listening to him for fear my head might explode.

[Endangered Specie]

23. Go Hillary...

On occasion shes been known to show quite a backbone :)

[Coastie for Truth]

25. Rove has really pissed off the "Volunteer Responder"

Cinstituency (volunteer fire fighters, CERT/Citizen Corps, Red Cross, Civil Air Patrol, Coast Guard Auxiliary types). This is a slightly more "conservative" and slightl more "Republican" community then the community at large. And, they (we) are pissed.

His own Department of reports

After September 11, 2001, America witnessed a wellspring of selflessness and heroism. People in every corner of the country asked, "What can I do?" and "How can I help?" Citizen Corps was created to help all Americans answer these questions through public education and outreach, training, and volunteer service.

in describing

The Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) Program educates people about disaster preparedness and trains them in basic disaster response skills, such as fire safety, light search and rescue, and disaster medical operations. Using their training, CERT members can assist others in their neighborhood or workplace following an event and can take a more active role in preparing their community. The program is administered by DHS.

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Ham Radio's and - which are frequently interlocking and overlapping at the local level - reported major jumps in training,membership, and participation.

Meanwhile, governmental programs such as and both reported jumps in training, membership, and retention of new members.

And, of course, the stalwart of the Emergency Response NGO's the reported a massive jump in training, membership, and most important, retention of new responders.

One can only ask - where does Mr. Rove get his numbers and facts --- maybe from his medicinal marijuana.

Rove is losing it in the non-partisan, bi-partican, apartisan volunteer emergency responder community.