U-S military official says negotiations will end fighting in Iraq

[sabra]

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http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=3524228

U-S military official says negotiations will end fighting in Iraq






WASHINGTON The U-S commander of the multinational coalition in Iraq says the violence there "will ultimately be settled by negotiation and inclusion in the political process."

General George Casey was on the morning talk shows, commenting about a British newspaper report that U-S officials have recently held talks with insurgent leaders.

And Casey tells A-B-C that the situation "will not be settled on the battlefield."

Casey says additional U-S troops are not needed to deal with the attacks.

Yesterday, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said the uprising could go on for years and could even get worse. He also said ultimately, it's going to be the Iraqis, not U-S forces, that will defeat the insurgency.

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

1. We could have avoided a lot of problems by allowing the Iraqis to....

...solve their own problems in the first place.

But no, the NeoCons were determined to build a US empire in the Middle East, and do it by any illegal and immoral means.

[Doctor_J]

2. Well, who'd have thought that * would negotiate with terrorists?

I did!

:hi:

[Catfight]

Yeah, Mr. "Bring it On," is now whimpering? I'm confused....nt

[saigon68]

28. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

As his Mommy fed him from the bottle.

[rainy]

3. I wonder how much they are going to pay them.

[0007]

25. Hmmmmmmm. Did they get the privilege of maintaining a subsidiary business

at the 14 new military installations in Iraq?

[tuvor]

4. If the dems did this, rove would call it "coddling the enemy". n/t

[Inland]

16. Yes, why isn't Rove sneering at this liberal general?

[wallwriter]

20. Seriously. Just when you think the hypocrisy has peaked...

[bunkerbuster1]

17. or "therapy." (eom)

[Roland99]

5. And how many times did negotiating and cease-fires fail in Iraq before?

How many times was Sadr offered amnesty and cease-fires?

How many times before have the insurgents been offered amnesty?


Fucking ideologues.

[Javaman]

6. does this mean that they will now actually talk with N. Korea???

They aren't even terrorists and they still get the cold shoulder, perhaps Kim needs to lob a few suicide bombers at us to get us to the table.

colossal jackass*

[SouthernDem2004]

7. N. Korea is a whole other ball game. Kim is rather unstable and

the problems started before Bush. We have been talking to them for a long time. They are the ones that broke the agreement we had when Clinton was president. The North Korean issue is caused by North Korea.

[mbperrin]

9. Actually, Bush broke the agreement.

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/769/

<from the middle of the article>
Relations between the United States and the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea declined precipitously in 2002 when the Bush administration claimed that Pyongyang had admitted to a secret nuclear weapons program and Washington cut off bilateral talks. Predictably, North Korea expelled International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors and rushed to reprocess its spent nuclear fuel rods into plutonium for nuclear weapons.

Bush had earlier announced that he “loathed” North Korean head of state Kim Jong Il, stationed the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan, readied a bomber squadron in the South Pacific and threatened regime change. The administration trained intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads on Kim’s isolated republic shortly after taking office.

Ambassador Charles Pritchard was President Bush’s Special Envoy for Negotiations with North Korea. He resigned last August, after the State Department barred him from attending crucial meetings with North Korean representatives. Speaking of Bush’s North Korea policy, Pritchard, wrote in a January 21 New York Times Op-Ed: “At best it can be described only as amateurish. At worst, it is a failed attempt to lure American allies down a path that is not designed to resolve the crisis diplomatically. The Bush administration needs to reassert itself … responsibly bring sanity and adult supervision to the administration’s infighting.”<more>

At one time I had Pritchard's piece from the NYT, but I'm sure it can be had. Pritchard reveals that the Bushies need sanity and adult supervision...true then, true now!

[SouthernDem2004]

11. You are mistaken....

They broke the treaty by starting up their weapons program and things went south from there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

[NNN0LHI]

14. They started their weapons program long before Clinton. From your link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Chronology_of_events

Concern focuses around two reactors at Yongbyon, both of them small power stations using Magnox technology. The smaller (5MWe) was completed in 1986 and has since produced possibly 8,000 spent fuel elements. Construction of the larger plant (50MWe) commenced in 1984 but in 2003 was still incomplete. This larger plant is based on the declassified blueprints of the Calder Hall power reactors used to produce plutonium for the UK nuclear weapons program.

It has also been suggested that small amounts of plutonium could have been produced in a Russian-supplied IRT-2000 heavy-water moderated research reactor completed in 1967, but there are no recorded safeguards violations with respect to this plant.

On March 12, 1993, North Korea said that it planned to withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and refused to allow inspectors access to its nuclear sites. By 1994, the United States believed that North Korea had enough reprocessed plutonium to produce about 10 bombs with the amount of plutonium increasing. Faced with diplomatic pressure and the threat of American military airstrikes against the reactor, North Korea agreed to dismantle its plutonium program as part of the Agreed Framework in which South Korea and the United States would provide North Korea with light water reactors and fuel oil until those reactors could be completed. Because the light water reactors would require enriched uranium to be imported from outside North Korea, the amount of reactor fuel and waste could be more easily tracked making it more difficult to divert nuclear waste to be reprocessed into plutonium.

It appears you are the one who is mistaken...

[SouthernDem2004]

29. No....

My post was not blaming any President for anything. This situation was beyond their control.

The point of my post was to inform that the treaty failed in 2002 when the US had proof that North Korea was violating the treaty and North Korea admitted it.

[ckramer]

19. I wouldn't listen too much into

Kim Duk Hong's word. Defectors always tell you what you wanted to hear.

[NNN0LHI]

13. Yea, but doesn't its Clinton's fault sound better? n/t

[SouthernDem2004]

30. It was not the fault of any US President. /nt

[ckramer]

10. I am not sure about that

remember Bush called them 'Axis of Evil'?

Yep, that really helps. :rolleyes:

[SouthernDem2004]

12. That was after they restarted their nuke program in violation of treaties.

[ckramer]

8. If you can kill them all, then why negotiate?

It just proves that Bush is losing.

[Double T]

15. Now the U.S. Military Has Resorted To Dreaming.....

but these are the same people that thought our U.S.troops would be greeted with cheers and flowers after the invasion.

[quaoar]

18. The new right-wing propaganda will be the following:

"We could have killed all the terrorists, but the traitorous liberals forced us to negotiate with them. If only those traitors had supported the war, we wouldn't have to negotiate with those people who chop off heads."

[ckramer]

21. LOL

a good one!

Rightwingers are idiots.

[Rex]

22. That's what we said about Vietnam too

:eyes:

[catmandu57]

23. Major combat operations are over anyway

At least that's what commander codpiece said on the Lincoln, two long years ago. Lets let the neocons and their puppett have it, loud and long CUT AND RUN CUT AND RUN CUT AND RUN FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP.
I guess maybe they're tired of fighting them over there, they want to fight them here now, and just because we tuck tail and run from Iraq doesn't mean that there won't be people on our tail.
They have long memories and many hundred thousands of reasons to fuck with our world.

[Roland99]

24. Islamic Army in Iraq Denies Alleged Negotiations with American Officials

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=publications61405&Category=publications&Subcategory=0

The Islamic Army in Iraq, in a statement issued yesterday, June 26, 2005, denies allegations that members of its group have been negotiating with American military officials, and outlines several points concerning these “lies… to break the unity of the mujahideen and confuse them.”

Among their points, the group maintains that collaboration between American officials and the Iraqi government that “want to sell jihad and the mujahideen and their blood and large sacrifices in exchange for little benefits which Americans grant them,” is a “trick” to destabilize the insurgency groups. Any unauthorized “official work” or impersonation of the Islamic Army’s leadership, according to the statement, “will be duly punished.”

Further, the statement indicates that another purported American goal is to distinguish between Iraqi and foreign mujahideen; however, the group avers that: “all Jews and Christians in the whole world are not worth one drop of blood of a Muslim, Iraqi or not Iraqi.”

[LynnTheDem]

26. bush doesn't negotiate with "terrorists".

Well, except when they're Taleban. He negotiates with them. And Iraqi rebels. They're ok to negotiate with.

And Cuban terrorists, he likes negotiating with them. And any terrorist who opposes Chavez.

Oh and dictator leaders who boil their political opponents to death and massacre pro-democracy protesters. He loves leader-terrorists.

[cliss]

27. The title of this is enough to scare the pants off you...

"US military official says negotiations will end fighting in Iraq".

What dimension are they living in? They believe this will end the fighting.....? These guys are worse than door-to-door salesmen, peddling their junk, making hyped-up promises.

And notice the next sentence, "the violence will ultimately be settled by negotiation and inclusion in the political process". This means the US is settling with $dollars$. They're going to try to bribe the insurgents.

(wondering if it will work). Will it work? Will the insurgents take cash, when they really want us out?

[daleo]

31. I think they'll take the cash and continue the fight.

The cash will come in handy to buy weapons for the fight.