Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Officer was the one behind 500 letters

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:39 PM
Original message
Officer was the one behind 500 letters
WASHINGTON — An Army battalion commander has taken responsibility for a public-relations campaign that sent hundreds of identical letters to hometown newspapers promoting his soldiers' rebuilding efforts in Iraq.

Lt. Col. Dominic Caraccilo said he wanted to highlight his unit's work and "share that pride with people back home."

Army officials revealed Tuesday that 500 identical form letters were sent to newspapers across the country with different signatures. They said the mass mailing was the wrong way of getting the message out, but they didn't know whether the commander would be disciplined.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-10-14-letters-usat_x.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hey ...Lt. .... I got a bridge for you to buy as well.
Boy...they certainly found a fall guy quick enough.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #1
17. Like to see a picture of this shmuck!
....but maybe the shmuck doesn't even exist?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Well, I did find some photos
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #18
24. He's in the second picture down...he's the guy facing the camera...
...handing the colors to the Command Sgt Major.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. There is a very good picture of him in Amazon books
It is in the book flap of a book that he edited:

"Major Dominic J. Caraccilo is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and holds a master's degree in National Security and Strategic Studies from the Naval War College. He is the author of The Ready Brigade of the 82nd Airborne in Desert Storm and has contributed to the award winning Faces of Victory, a two-volume World War II commemorative sponsored by the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Major Caraccilo is currently the operations officer for the 3rd Brigade, 101st Airborne (Air Assault) Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811715965/ref=lib_rd_ss_TBFL/103-1517633-8375051?v=glance&s=books&vi=reader&img=28#reader-link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=532081
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chromotone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #19
43. Don't be too hard on him...
As an author/editor of several books, it's apparent he always wanted to be a "Man of Letters"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #1
38. THIS GUY IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 01:22 PM by saigon68
Rather than lead his troops---Rather than follow orders---Rather than do his job as a battalion commander of infantry, this fruitcake decided to take a little frolic and detour, into the art of hearts and minds propaganda exploitation.

A job he was apparently either untrained for, or not very skilled at accomplishing. Now he is exposed for the idiot that he is. 500 letters and all the same.

Worse he is an embarrassment to the corporate handlers who are running the government. There is no way to shed a good light on all of this. He was sent to be an infantry commander in Iraq--apparently he had too much free time on his hands.

Unfortunately, for him, he will be judged as a military meddler in civilian affairs, a forger and an outright liar. He is soon going to be held up as an incompetent interloper, based on his now failed attempt to influence public opinion by very dubious and dishonest means.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
2. A letter of reprimand is in order.
For bad judgment. I doubt if there's any UCMJ action. A letter of reprimand makes it 99% certain this guy doesn't make bird colonel. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it swept under the rug.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Don't you mean "a promotion"?
C'mon, this isn't your granddaddy's non-partisan military we're dealing with anymore, this is the neo-military, serving the interests of the neo-conservatives and neo-imperialism. As such, publicity campaigns of the sort this officer undertook are a vital part of maintaining groupthink in the homeland.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. a promotion and a medal!
by keeping "on message" unlike the "liberal media" here in the states, this man singlehandedly did more for the iraqi invasion's cause than anything chimpy's been able to ape for the past few weeks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Exactly.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 09:57 PM by benfranklin1776
The prospects of career advancement will be directly proportional to the degree of complete undivided fealty shown to the imperious leader. Participating in domestic psyops to further the neocon PNAC agenda is therefore a career builder not a hindrance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
13. NEW DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND MORALE DEPT
This just sucks. How would you like this loose cannon doing anything at all for your school, your business, or your community?

He's totally out of control.

Either Prozac or Lithium along with individual therapy is required for this nut-case.

500 letters--

I wonder who bought all the stamps, or had time to address the letters?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #13
30. MPS mail is free.
All you have to do is put "MPS" where the stamp would go, and throw the letter in the bag. It gets delivered to Miami, New York, or San Francisco, depending on where the theater of operations is, and the USPS takes it from there. Thus, it cost zero for the commander to spam the USA. We paid for it, as usual.

If you remember, this was one of the arguments given why many of the Florida military absentee ballots were not postmarked. They didn't bother, because there was no stamp to cancel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #30
42. Didn't realise they all had free mail.
We had it, but only in Nam. And only during the WAR 1965-1973

If you were stationed in Thailand or anywhere else, you had to buy stamps. But the jerk still had to look up all the addresses and that must have been time consumming. Guess he had a lot of spare time, leading his airborne battalion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
american_mutt Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
36. there is a civil criminal law
about forgery that should be applied.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:52 PM
Response to Original message
5. FAUX is still reporting it as fact
At least as of this morning, they were still reading the "letter" out loud. Not only have they not exposed it for the bullshit it is, they're still actively PROMOTING it.

"And listen to what one newspaper published in Podunk, Nowhere -- {reads form letter} -- heart-warming, isn't it?" :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Papa Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #5
25. I know fox sucks, but they really take the cake this time
If the other news outlets want to compete against FOX, they are going to have to take em down a couple of notches. If I were running a news outlet, THIS WOULD BE NEWS....FOX is reporting lies. This is a news story that is black and white. Not one soldier wrote his own letter. It's not often this way where we get a black and white issue to bang the opposition with. Or if I were a Democrat, I would make this an issue. The Republicans have bashed the "liberal" media successfully, why can't we do it back to them?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
7. Are you kidding?
Of course, he won't be "disciplined". Rather, he'll likely receive a Karl Rove produced reception / photo op in the Rose Garden. And, Junior will honor him with some sort of medal for his 'unfiltered courage and pride'...and, for his 'distinguished effort and devotion to the commander-in-chief'.

:silly:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:03 PM
Response to Original message
8. This ass should be busted
But he won't
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Bird colonel by Christmas...
...and a Brigadier General within six months of Bush's 're-election'.

Ollie North will die of envy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:09 PM
Response to Original message
10. Lt. Col. Caraccilo was also involved in "finding" WMD back in April
We have a full dossier from several posters, including yours truly, in this GD thread:

Meet Lt. Col. Dominic Caraccilo, the author of GI letters to newspapers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=532081
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #10
21. Is this guy a CIA operative? Seriously? A spook
then?

Sure sounds like it.. or at least a wanna-be.

Talk about being 'institutionalised'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:11 AM
Response to Original message
11. Whoa -- 500 letters?
As Jon Stewart says, do they think we're idiots?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:29 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. You're all wrong...
Bush will make him the new secretary of defense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #11
35. Not idiots..."Fodder Units"
Ok, they also think we're idiots.

And Serfs amd slavish drooling celebrity-worshippers.

They might be right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:52 AM
Response to Original message
14. Forgery?
From what I read, some of the solders contacted said they knew nothing of the letters, yet they were signed by these people. Isn't this forgery? Isn't that some sort of crime.

then agian, these are the people that made Oliver North a hero for his crimes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:31 AM
Response to Original message
15. His actions were not authorized
The commander is subject to prosecution for violation of a lawful regulation, pertaining to the privacy act and forgery.


He is subject to suit by his men who's identities were stolen and signatures were forged. Therefore he should be relieved of his command which is prejudicial to good order and discipline.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:35 AM
Response to Original message
16. NPR had some lovely spin on this yesterday.
They claimed 5 enlisted soldiers were behind it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #16
22. Yeah,
I heard that. I could hardly believe my ears. You'd have to remove half your brain to believe that soldiers are into PR, and 3/4 to believe NPR would engage in such blatant transparent propaganda. Sad indeed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #16
32. I debunked that a couple of days ago.
I wish I remembered where. Might have been here, but I can't find it.

Speaking from experience as a 'staff weenie', the only place where computer equipment (and someone who knows how to do a MS Word mail merge) might exist that could facilitate such an astroturf campaign would be at the battalion headquarters. Therefore, the likely culprit would have to be either the battalion commander, and/or one or more members of his staff. They just don't have those kind of resources where the rubber meets the road.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:52 AM
Response to Original message
20. yeah right!!! and my mother didn't make my science fair projects!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:06 AM
Response to Original message
23. He's Just The Fall Guy. Rove Got Caught, But He Can't Have HIS Fingerprin
ts on this. This guy was chosen for his loyalty to be the fall guy.

bunch of comic book commando idiots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
26. the soldiers should sue the RNC for endorsement fees
plus damages for their being used unwittingly in Bush's PR offensive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
27. By Jove, I think they've found the next Colin Powell
what a fucking tool

I want to move to a small, free country with no military.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. Seeya in Costa Rica, amigo!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. I went to Costa Rica a few years ago
Real nice poeple and affordable too if you have money to bring with you. It rains half the year though. I liked the place. Plan to to back if I ever get the chance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
31. Disciplined? This Bushveik gets a promotion!
For falling on his sword and covering for His Masters.

500 identical letters? Yeah, I'll bet his 500 soldiers sure had a chance to decline their Bushevik Kommandant's offer if they disagreed.

Sure they did.

Watch. When the spotlight is off him, Mr. Freeper gets a promotion.

You'll see.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. A light infantry battalion contains about 550 members.
Three line companies of about 130 each (three platoons of 40 plus 10 support people), the remainder belonging to the headquarters company - everyone from mechanics and truck drivers to medics to cooks to radio monkeys to logistics and admin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Minus 50 wounded or rotated for other reasons
I say again...SURE they had a choice.

The Busheviks aren't about choice, in any way shape or form.

The Busheviks do the "choosing" for their "Fodder Units", civilian and military both.

We are all "Fodder Units" in the eyes of the Busheviks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ByeDick Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
37. Fuzzy Military Policy: LIES + FRAUD = HONOR

There's no way in hell that a guy engaged in Iraq would be thinking about conducting a propaganda operation in the States. This guy was under orders.

And what's all this crap about, "his intentions were honorable?"

What is the military teaching these animals?

I don't think the propaganda is working on me. But then again, it's so smooth, subtle, and undetectable that it's hard to say for sure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
39. asshole
What a dick to be so devious. I wouldn't be surprised to find that this letter was responsible for an increase in the bolls for el presidente.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:48 PM
Response to Original message
40. This was still spinning on cspan this morning
Republican water carrier for the administration said that only 2 soldiers complained of a letter in their name. So it was an overall blessed event.
Schmuck will be seeing stars before long. General Schmuck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VLC98 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Yes, that idiot from Wyoming...
who was struggling to come up with answers, said the person responsible was "a low ranking officer".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 08:38 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC