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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:32 PM
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House Democratic Leader Pelosi's Statement on Ohio Second District Race
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=51266

House Democratic Leader Pelosi's Statement on Ohio Second District Race

8/3/2005 12:09:00 AM

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To: National Desk

Contact: Jennifer Crider of the Office of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, 202-225-3302

WASHINGTON, Aug. 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Following is House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi's statement on the special election in Ohio's second congressional district:

"Paul Hackett is a war hero who campaigned with the same dignity and honor that he served our country. Paul ran an excellent campaign and made what should have been an easy Republican win a tough contested race.

"The issues, political, and ethics environment are good for Democrats and Paul Hackett's campaign in a Republican district proves it. "Republicans are on notice -- Americans are demanding a change. Americans will no longer tolerate the Republicans' continued abuses of power and catering to corporate special interests at the expense of the public interest.

"Democrats are committed to expanding opportunity, growing prosperity, and increasing security for every American."

http://www.usnewswire.com /

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/© 2005 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:34 PM
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1. Has Hackett made a statement?
:shrug:
rocknation
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:39 PM
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5. here's a video
parts of his speech

http://www.wcpo.com/
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:08 PM
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27. Good gawd that repug woman is scary looking!
She looks like some of these Beverly Hills gals around here that are one face lift away from having a beard.



Hackett on the other hand :loveya: !! Whadda hunka man!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:10 PM
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41. I just look at people and make up my mind....
hey, if he's cute, I will vote for him...NOT! WTF? Please don't be like this...it is so shallow. Wait until you get old, you will be scary looking, too! Their foreheads look similar....I can see that....both have lots of wrinkles.

I don't see the great hunk that you do....but hey, I get off on 'great brains' like Thurgood Marshall and Albert Einstein....so who is to say what a hunk is ????

But in politics, I think it is better to look into candidates heart, soul and brain....not just the superficial attributes of physicalities...

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:34 PM
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2. Great comment from Pelosi
I hope the DLC is on notice, too.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:36 PM
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3. The DLC better notice this
cause it's their fuckin' death knell.

I don't like DLC bashing, but we all know that they are more trouble than they are worth at times. If they could simply see the damage they do, they could be reformed into something useful.

So I'm hoping they see this result and "modify" their strategy.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:41 AM
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18. I don't want to reform them.
There is no 12-step program good enough for that. I want them dissolved.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:01 AM
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24. you want them 'dissolved'? Is that like 'disappeared' or 'liquidated'?
how do you propose to 'dissolve' them?

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #24
40. Well, I thought take away their letterhead.
And offices.

But if you have a better idea....
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:25 PM
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42. No, that's sounds reasonable... though I'd include their rubberstamp
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:58 PM
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38. Hear, hear!
NT!

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:39 AM
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20. At times?
No, all the time. I have yet to see the DLC be of any more use than the average Republican.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:58 AM
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23. What The Buckeye does this have to do with the DLC?
???
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:11 PM
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28. Everything has to do with the DLC!!
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 12:11 PM by ronnykmarshall
You get a ingrown toe nail .... it's the fault of the DLC!!

You dog poops on the rug ........ DLC!!!

The DLC is the root of ALL EVIL!!


:sarcasm:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:15 PM
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36. No, getting an inhumane pro-corporate republican sponsored bankruptcy
bill endorsed by the DLC passed, and getting pro-corporate Bu*h/republican sponsored anti-worker legislation such as CAFTA passed, is the fault of the DLC.

Republicans are the root of all evil. The DLC is a branch off that root.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #20
25. Then you didn't pay attention in the 80s
and early 90s. That DLC had some good ideas.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:21 PM
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31. What were those?
Our party has lost ground consistently since then, so I'm curious to know what those good ideas were, and what we gained as a party as a result of them.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:37 PM
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4. I hope this means Dems will start running in races again
instead of just running in their ever-shrinking base of "safe" districts.

Three yards and a cloud of dust. Its hard work getting back in power, but better late than never.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:43 PM
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7. she got that one right!!---(not tolerating the Repug abuse of power!!)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:40 PM
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6. I wish she'd mentioned they attacked an Iraqi vet
Shame on the GOP.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:45 PM
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8. Lets see we ran two vets now and they trashed them???
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 11:46 PM by DanCa
And they dare tell us too support the troops.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yeah, support the troops until they run for democratic office
then slam them. The GOP are one messed up group.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. more than two
they did the same thing to Max Cleland.

Hell, they did the same thing to John McCain in the 2000 primary. Of course, he apparently liked it, judging by his behavior since.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:05 AM
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15. Mccain - just being honest so don't shoot me :D
I voted for him in the 2000 primairy and broke with party lines. Why because of the smear attack. I still wish him well because of he's a fellow human being, but know that I know some of his voting trail, I don't know if i would have done it at the time. Note I vote for Al Gore in 2000 so I dont get totally lynched.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #8
14. big difference
Hackett didn't sit and take, kerry did

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #14
29. Hackett kicks ass
and takes names later.


I hope he runs again in 2006.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #14
32. Nobody told Hackett to explain his service
or release his records or anything of the sort. Hackett attacked them for their bullshit, same as Kerry; but Hackett was supported by Dems instead of questioned. That's the difference.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:55 PM
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11. Impressive ...
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 11:56 PM by RoyGBiv
The statement itself is fairly generic, but I am impressed that a Democratic leader made a statement at all. It shows at least one member of the leadership was actually paying attention.

Let's hope in paying attention those in the leadership learned a lesson. This was the best run Democratic race I've witnessed in ages.



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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Note the time
9 minutes past midnight.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:20 PM
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30. that's 9:09 on the
left coast!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:19 AM
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:41 PM
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33. national party should stay under the radar
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 12:42 PM by sandnsea
He didn't want visible national party support. No Dem candidate in a red area does. The leadership did exactly what he wanted them to do, raised money and stayed out of the way.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #11
21. And yet, still a losing one
That don't wash.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:18 PM
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35. Well ...

It's not immediately satisfying, I know, but as others have said in far more detail, the closeness of the race is a victory in and of itself, and more importantly, it gives clues of where the leadership should go if it wants to dismantle this machine that has taken power.

Hackett barely had a chance even to make a dent, and he defied almost every expectation and cleaved nearly a complete hole through the south Ohio Republican machine. He's a national figure now, and his message is national. That is significant.

All of the Democratic leadership could have ignored it, as it does most special elections and candidates without a chance according to the conventional wisdom. Pelosi offering a statement under the circumstances is a good sign.

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:36 PM
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37. I understand all that, and I am all behind the logic of it
and all that, but dammit--these things have been national.

It is time to start kicking some ass and remembering names. I don't see that happening.

The fact is, Hackett will not get to stare down * or Cheney, or ask questions of Rummy in Congress, well at least until 2007, that is.

The paradigm has shifted. It's perpetual war now.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:56 PM
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12. An easy Republican win.
It's so eazy when you own the voting machines.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:57 AM
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22. filler
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:09 AM
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16. thank you House Dem Leader Pelosi, we need more like you
in this party if it is to survive.

:kick:
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:55 AM
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19. Why did he concede so fast??
Figure he actually trusted the Diebold machines and the corrupt secretary of state?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. It could be internal exit polling......
...alot of campaigns do it.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:57 PM
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34. It is still not a "win"....
Despite the good numbers shown by Hackett it is still clear that a Majority of america (or at least that district) is never going to admit that the Republicans are bad for America. Despite all the scandal and lies they will still not lower themselves to vote for a Democrat.

Best we can do is to keep the pressure on and keep making the conservatives feel unwelcome and stupid for supporting Bush and the rest of the Re-pukes. Every other tactic has not worked.

fuck the conservatives I am sick of them.

anytime one of them tries to even talk to me about politics I tear them a new asshole over Iraq and corporate pandering, criminal behavior (plame), torture, racism, and fascism.

They made the decision long ago to demonize liberals....so i am no longer being "nice".

The time civility has past. Because they will lie right in your face and not care.

Fuck them.
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. right on
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 11:06 PM by Sven77
i lettem have it every chance i can.
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