Former President Clinton Says Judge Roberts `Very Impressive'

[truthpusher]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a4USaynAtgJU

Former President Clinton Says Judge Roberts `Very Impressive'
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Aug. 3 (Bloomberg) --
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Former President Bill Clinton praised Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts as ``highly intelligent,'' while voicing reservations about a memo Roberts wrote in 1984 that called for stripping the high court of some of its power.

``I don't think we should in any way prejudge Judge Roberts,'' Clinton said in an interview to be aired today. ``He is a very impressive man.''

Clinton said the Senate should explore the memo Roberts wrote as a lawyer in the Reagan administration that argued that Congress should be allowed to bar courts from ordering busing to desegregate schools. Clinton said he was ``surprised'' by the memo, calling it ``to the right'' of conservative legal scholar Ted Olson, who was then an assistant U.S. attorney general.

(snip)

The overall tenor of the former Democratic president's comments about Roberts was favorable. ``He seems to be a really good human being, a person who's got a good family,'' Clinton said. ``He's just as entitled to his politics as I am to mine.''

(snip)

complete story: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a4USaynAtgJU

[wli]

1. what in the Hell? Bubba is shilling for Federalist Society Klansmen?

This is highly disturbing.

[JohnKleeb]

2. Roberts a Klansman?

I am not defending the guy but the Klan is hateful of Catholics which is waht Roberts is.

[wli]

3. okay, granted

The idea was that Federalist Society members goose-step in unison to support policies that are racist and very heavy reich wingnut fodder.

Hence, things like "Klansmen in judges' robes" and so on are used to describe them (by me, anyway).

[JohnKleeb]

6. I understand but

klansman was just a little extreme for me, carry on, just saying.

[Imagevision]

121. Well, we're glad you're impressed Bill, personnaly I want his tract

record out in plain sight for all to see before he gets the nod for the next 30-40 years. And the silly notion of Bush not permitting us to see the pertiment facts/records to understand more clearly the postions of Mr.Roberts only makes matters more difficult, so Bill perhaps on your next visit with the Bush family you would be so kind to pass this little tidbit along.
thanking you now and much luck to Hillary, ya'll have a nice day.

[Bluebear]

4. Roberts was active in Reagan's attempt to limit civil rights legislation

nt

[JohnKleeb]

7. I am not saying hes a good guy

but hes not in the klan, dont you guys know that the klan hates catholics. You can be a racist without being in the klan.

[autorank]

11. You're right on the hyperbole but Clinton is a turn coat to the party.

Roberts is demonstrably against the achievements of the New Deal through the Great Society. He's anti abortion, restrictive on civil rights, and, he helped Jeb with key legal advice during the theft of Florida 2000. If that's not enough evidence for Clinton to keep his mouth shut, I don't know what it takes. (btw, sorry about Palmiero (he'll be back, a little smaller, but back).

[JohnKleeb]

14. I wasnt defending Roberts at all

Just lay low on the hyperbole and focus on why Roberts sucks like what you just brought up. Dont be sorry about Palmeiro, its not like it was Ripken or Tejada.

[autorank]

16. You've got your baseball priorities right.

Where are you going next year?

[JohnKleeb]

21. Northern Virginia community college

I am sure you know it.

[autorank]

25. I love it. It's the gateway to the future for smart kids who get motivate

d. And I'm not kidding. NOVA rocks, plus it all 'articulates' (aka transfers) to any UVA system school and most any school in the country. Annandale is a full campus but wtf, they're all good.

[JohnKleeb]

27. My father went to NOVA too a long time ago at Annandale

All I need to do now is buy my books, it really is a good opperuntuty.

[MountainLaurel]

90. Used to work there

Until a month or so ago (got a great opportunity a mile from my apartment). Which campus will you be mainly taking classes on? If you need any info, PM me.

Congrats!

[bhunt70]

113. small world, I'm taking some classes at the alexandria campus.

[MountainLaurel]

115. Cool! n/t

[TankLV]

104. And you can also be a "good catholic" and a racist, to.

Or is that a surprise to you, too?

[fujiyama]

35. How ya doin Kleeb?

Been a while since I saw ya in this here neck of the woods!

[merwin]

19. Roberts is NOT a far right neocon.

Granted, he's not at all desireable to the far left and progressives. But he does have qualities that moderates such as Clinton like.

But ask yourselves... who would you rather have? Gonzales or Roberts? I'd put my money on Roberts.

[JohnKleeb]

22. Thast really tough for me

Since Gonzales is pro choice and shows some support for AA but hes also shown hositlity for the Geneva Convention. I dont think though Roberts is the worst he could have picked, imagine Associate Judge Janice Rogers Brown.

[merwin]

26. She is a much better example than Gonzales.

I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Roberts is a sucky appointment, but there is FAR worse. I mean, some of the religious right is pissed off at Bush for appointing Roberts. That must mean he's not ALL bad :-)

[JohnKleeb]

28. Heres how I look at Roberts

I am thinking he'll be in between a Kennedy and a Scalia. I hope hes a surprise though, I would love to see Bush do what Eisenhower did with Earl Warren, regret it :evilgrin:

[merwin]

31. I think he may turn up to be a surprise.

Much of the stuff that is attributed to Roberts was done while he was a corporate lawyer. Corporate lawyers (and lawyers in general) are paid to take the opinions of their client. My views tend to get pretty well flamed around here :-)

[JohnKleeb]

34. hah well lets hope he is

Remember David Souter was a surprise too, and Kerry and Kennedy both voted against his confirmation.

[TankLV]

105. This is true. Compare it to someone who defends an accused criminal of

any sort.

You are their to serve your client, no matter what your personal beliefs may be. This has been great fodder for countless movies, etc.

But the more I read about the guy, the more I fear.

He is definitely NOT the "innocent good guy" they are trying hard to portray.

[geek tragedy]

57. Roberts is as bad, if not worse, than Robert Bork.

It's really naive to think that Bush would nominate a reasonable, freedom-loving human being to the Court.

[Imagevision]

124. Actually it's moves from people like Bill Clinton you have to be wary of!

I remember Bil Clinton coming out only about a few days after Kerry conceded and said; "stop the whinning and let's get on with our lives" and thats a quote -- Conyers hadn't even had the Ohio revote schedualed yet -- fucking whinners Bill Clinton calls us...too much, he inhaled that day!

[wli]

32. sorry, Federalist Society means "far right neocon"

In fact, incredibly far to the right.

[Romberry]

41. Between Roberts and Gonzales...

...I take Gonzales. Don't confuse Gonzales' work as an administration lawyer or executive branch appointee with what he believes or supports himself. Roberts is the worst kind of dangerous. Think of him as a "nice" Clarence Thomas.

[leesa]

47. Roberts helped steal the 2000 election but that's OK with you.

He lied about belonging to the Federalist Society when he was in a leadership position there, that's OK with you. He tried to stop civil rights legislation, but that's OK with you.

Man, I can't stand appeasers. This creature is part of the Bush Crime Family...but that's OK with you.

[TankLV]

106. He says he "can't remember" if he was ever a member!

Do any of you ever NOT remember the various organizations that you were a member of? I certainly know of every single fucking thing I was ever a member of - and certainly something as infamous as that crap group!

I smell big time bullshit here.

[geek tragedy]

56. Gonzales is ten times better than Roberts.

Roberts doesn't have a single redeeming quality in terms of his beliefs. Not a single one.

[Cronus Protagonist]

103. hahaha

You just might be buying into the hype :)

[redqueen]

68. Does this really surprise you?

Clinton was always a kiss up to corporate power. Nothing new here.

[primavera]

86. Why are you surprised?

Big Dog spends most of his time hanging out with the Bushes, the man hasn't been a Democrat since before 1996.

[Kitsune]

5. Oh for... Bill, you AREN'T HELPING.

What the hell is the matter with our party that we actually have members defending a right-wing loon who has no business being on the Supreme Court?

[dhill926]

8. Exactly....

WTF! Can you imagine the repubs for one fucking second responding like this if they were in the minority. No way.

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[senseandsensibility]

18. Defending repugs

Interesting post history you've compiled here in a very short time.

[seriousstan]

24. It sounded like he was defending facts. I am all for that.

Hyperbole and baseless accusations marginalize, not them but us.

[geek tragedy]

72. Ginsburg is much more moderate than Roberts. That's not even debatable.

Roberts doesn't believe in an independent judiciary. Roberts is hostile to civil rights.

Roberts is no mere conservative--he is a radical rightwing extremist.

[geek tragedy]

58. Ginsburg had a moderate record as a judge.

Roberts is a far-right wingnut whose stance on civil rights is somewhere between Robert Bork and David Duke.

[Demoiselle]

92. Classic Clinton....Give a little, take a little...

I too wish he'd kept his mouth shut....but he did slip in a piece of info about Roberts that makes my blood run cold....that Roberts wrote a brief defending/suggesting the notion that Congress should be able to pass laws that defeat the Supreme Court's desegregation rulings. So while Bubba is patting him on the head, he's also kicking him in the keister.

[autorank]

9. He blew 2000 by horrible boundaries. He's no longer worthy of attention.

Screw him. I'm sick of people who are so "grand" as to be above the fray. OK, let's see, Roberts is against abortion, he's for Gitmo, he's against allowing a little girl to sue a school district for her rape, he's for big corporations.

I'm sick of Bill and Hillary. They're not Democrats. They're plutocrat wannabees.

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Oh, btw, I mean leaders who will refrain from having any type of erotic contact with interns when they're in the White House regardless of their "family of origin" problems; the type of problems that just give people a bad taste for the whole crew of Democrats because we had to defend him (which was proper but costly). Thanks Bill, you gave us Bush and now your pals with Bush daddy.

What's next, a place on the Carlyle board?

[Deja Q]

29. Bingo! Bingo! Bingo!

Clinton (either of them) is out for itself. Chumming up to *co and his extremist picks proves it.

[autorank]

48. "Clindon...out for itself" -- perfect for their droid quality.

:hi:

[jonnyblitz]

38. I agree. I wish they BOTH would just go away...nt

[autorank]

49. Lets start a fund to send them to...The Falkland Islands

Come on down Bill and Hillary to accept your all expenses paid trip to, yes you've heard about it for years, The Falkland Islands. These small but fertile islands represent a special place in "big power history." You'll see where the NATO quality British fleet sunk an Argentine battle ship killing thousands; the trenches where Argentine commanders shot their soldiers in the foot to prevent a hasty retreat; and, you'll hear a lecture on why these islands really make more sense as a a part of England than any country in the Western hemisphere. And that's not to mention the para sailing Bill...you toad...

[AlGore-08.com]

100. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to send them to Elephant Island?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_Island

Elephant Island is an ice-covered, mountainous island off the coast of Antarctica in the outer reaches of the South Shetland Islands in the Southern Ocean. It lies at latitude 61�‹01�Œ S 54�‹54�Œ W, 1300 kilometers south-west of South Georgia.

The island is approximately 10km by 2km in an east to west orientation, with a maximum elevation of 2795 feet (852 m) above sea level at Pardo Ridge. Significant named features of the island are Cape Yelcho, Cape Valentine and Cape Lookout at its north-eastern and southernmost extremes, and Point Wild, a spit of land on its northern coast.

The island supports no significant flora or native fauna although migratory Gentoo penguins and seals may be found on its shores, and Chinstrap penguins nest there in season. A lack of safe anchorage has prevented any permanent human settlements being formed, despite the island being well placed to support scientific, fishing and whaling activities in the area.

(more... )

:spank:

[autorank]

133. "The island supports no significant flora or native fauna" --YES THAT'S IT

:rofl:

[redqueen]

73. Hear, hear!

:applause:

[anotherdrew]

79. I'm sick of Bill and Hillary. They're not Democrats. RIGHT ON!

seems that way, I think they may well always have been

[primavera]

89. They've always been players - not Democrats

Ask people who lived in Arkansas while Bill was governor - the man was always a major opportunist, blew whichever way the prevailing winds were blowing. In that respect, he and Hillary have both been totally consistent: kiss up to their base when they need them, then turn around and kiss up to the right-wing fundies when they need them. I don't know whether it reflects a complete lack of principle on their part or just trying to make the most of a bad situation, but it hardly matters, does it? I mean, even giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're really Democrats who are simply maneuvering themselves strategically in the Fourth Reich, what good have they accomplished through all of their kissing up to the right other than to legitimize the slide to the right and lend it the credibility of bipartisan support?

[magellan]

10. What Bill Clinton has to say troubles me more with each passing day

He still has immeasurable populist power, but he's begun using it far too much to strike concilliatory notes with the radicals on the Right. This "meet them mid-aisle" stuff he's selling a large block of the Dem base is dangerous imho. It's the DLC tactic of a shift to the right to win elections, and I, for one, will never go for it.

Similar sentiment towards Hillary, who I never liked politically to begin with.

[fugwb]

55. I agree get rid of the two party system. They need each other

more than they want to admit. He would never have been this moderate and agreeable when Gingrich was up his ass. hipocrit with a tax cut.

[CityDem]

110. Clintons move as one

Bill does not speak on political matters without consulting with Hillary. This appears to be another effort on Hillarys' part to move to the center without alienating her progressive base. These two make my head spin trying to figure out their spin. I just wish they would both go away.

[davidinalameda]

12. Clinton's tastes have always been very suspect

face it--he screwed Paula Jones and got hummers from Monica Lewinsky

his poor taste in women now obviously has spilled over to SCOTUS nominees

[I_Make_Mistakes]

15. Psst Hillary 08 think that could have something to do with it?

[davidinalameda]

17. the thought has crossed my tin foiled covered head

what if the Bushies are colluding with Bill and Hill to get her in the White House in 2008

we can't forget Bill and Papa Bush's new found friendship after the tsnumai relief tour

what could happen between now and 2008 for some sort of "unity" ticket with Hill and Jebbie

[bunkerbuster1]

50. Duh. Fix is in, people.

"This ain't your night, kid." This ain't our fight. Chimpy gets this judge with only a few tough (and unanswered) questions from the Senate peanut gallery during the confirmation. All that's left is the office pool over how overwhelming a majority will confirm.

Put me down for the 89-11 spot.

[redacted]

20. Has Bill completely lost his mind?

[WhiteTara]

23. fuck you Kool Aid Klinton

you drank way to much, Bill and you are now one of them. So sad, you had so much promise, but you are a failure and have been for a long long time. :grr: :mad:

[SleeplessinSoCal]

36. I used to LOVE Clinton

Now I've got that same feeling about him the Right Wingers have - He's slick Willy from Hope.

NOt my president anymore. Go run the U.N. Bill and leave the Democrats alone, PLEASE!!!

[PDXWoman]

39. Wow! Aren't you the loyal one.

Clinton is a brilliant man, he knows what he's doing. I put all my trust in the big Dawg.

[redqueen]

74. You put all your trust in the man who promised us a Fariness Doctrine?

Then failed to deliver despite having a Dem congress for two years?

The lack of which is a large part of the reason much of this country is so ass-backwards re: facts?

:crazy:

[WhiteTara]

108. Hey Sleepless, I used to love him too, then

he passed the logging without laws rider and I watched the magnificent old growth being cut with great abandon. When he "reformed" welfare and left all those kids hungry, he completely lost me. I don't want him at the UN either, he gargles with the kool aid every day and is so overwhelmed with wanting to be loved by all the cool kids that he has lost his credibility. I just want him to go away.

[PurityOfEssence]

30. Clinton still thinks they'll call off the dogs if he helps them enough

The need to be loved is one of the saddest failings of public people.

The right will fuck him forever, regardless of how much he helps them.

He'll never see this, and will twist and dodge for their approval forever. He'll call in to Larry King and support Bush's conquest of Iraq. He'll enable them at their weakest moments, and they'll be right there to destroy him at every turn.

Sometimes it takes a really smart person to be an absolute fool.

[Zorra]

33. Oh, bullshit. Bill knows as well as we do that motherfuckin' Roberts is

nothing but just one more bu*h supportin' fascist asshole.

You want me to be nice, then start nominatin' nice people for public offices.

Otherwise, go fuck your phony ass selves.

[Mairead]

40. And what's even more amazing is how many here continue to be

shocked by Clinton's right-wing politics.

[redqueen]

76. Indeed... his rightwing tendencies aren't news at all.

Maybe it's hard to let go of comforting illusions...

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

37. There he goes again, the best Republican President

ever.

The defense of this man destroyed what was left of the Democrats... it will take years to recover.

By then it will be too late, and Bill will be golfing with George the whole time.

Hope everyone likes gruel!

[PDXWoman]

42. This is sad.

How soon we forget all the great things Clinton did while he was Prez. It's really a shame how we democrats can't be a loyal party and support eachother despite our differances and faults. Look at the Repukes, standing by and supporting Bush, a miserable failure. They're oblivious to his horrid mistakes. We need to be a little more like them if we want to win. C'mon guys lets stick together and support eachother!

I love the Big Dawg no matter what!

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

93. No, that is a measurable statement.... not sad

more republican agenda points were achieved in Clinton's term, and without the chronic Republican problem of recession/depression, than in any other presidency.

And as far as sticking together... what is with HIM praising this schmuck and paling around with GWB41?

Sorry, I love the Big Dog too, but... :shrug:

[endarkenment]

43. BC: charismatic triangulating DLC annointed a*hole. nt

[IndianaGreen]

44. Scalia's high IQ has never been in question either!

Roberts' "high intelligence," which sounds like the Nietzsche's "superman," just makes him more dangerous to those of us that value the hard fought gains we made in human and labor rights in the past 150 years.

These people want to drag America back to mid-nineteenth century capitalism.

[BiggJawn]

45. Torquemada was "Very Impressive", too.

But I wouldn't want him on my SCROTUS, either.

[DemBeans]

46. gross

I'm so sick of both Clintons and their craven, opportunistic triangulating. They don't care how much they divide the Democratic party in 2008 - it's all about them and their own power. Sickening.

[jrthin]

51. BOTH Clintons

should just shut the eff up and go away.

[LincolnMcGrath]

52. Orrin Hatch must have OKed him just like Orrin nominated RBG.

Go away Clintons!

[PDXWoman]

53. Al Gore said that too

And thats why he lost! He should have embraced Clinton and his record.

[Dave Reynolds]

101. Gore lost because of a stopped recount,

not because he did not embrace Clinton.

[converted_democrat]

54. Well, it's official folks. I have NO respect for either Clinton anymore.n/t

[JaneQPublic]

60. Lately, I keep reminding myself he was my 3rd choice in the 92 primaries

...after Tom Harkin and Jerry Brown.

[geek tragedy]

59. Pay attention, folks!

Did you notice what Bill did? He hugged Roberts and then shanked him with that school busing memo--getting it much wider circulation.

[Laurab]

91. I noticed - thanks!

It wasn't exactly a lovefest, was it? Roberts IS entitled to his politics, maybe just not on the Supreme Court....I really wish Bill would keep his mouth shut, but people could at least read beyond the first paragraph...

[ecstatic]

132. I caught that... BUT

I'm not sure if it was spin by the article author or what, but Clinton supposedly had a warm/admiring tone towards Roberts DESPITE the info about the Reagan memos. That's the part that pissed me off, although it could be that Clinton's comments were skewed.

[Ambrose]

61. Calm down...

I'm reading these comments and wondering if I'm on a Limblow forum or something. President Clinton said we shouldn't prejudge him before the hearings. It that so terrible? Other democrats have been equally complimentary. I'm a bit appalled when I read folks trashing the greatest President in my life time for being a voice of reason instead of slobbering hyperbole.

[geek tragedy]

63. Actually, Clinton highlighted Roberts' appalling hostility towards

human rights.

[bushisanidiot]

88. Exactly. He complimented his intelligence and his family. big deal.

he also said he doesn't agree with him politically.

``He's just as entitled to his politics as I am to mine.''

[bitchkitty]

62. Oh, shut the f*** up, Bill. n/t

[flyarm]

64. will someone pleaseeeeeeeeee tell clinton...

to shut the hell up..and stop giving bj's to the rethug liars and killers!!

[Justitia]

65. Will someone PLEASE lock Bill in a closet? He's like a drunk uncle at the

family reunion!!

:spank:

[Coexist]

70. LOL! Astute observation.

just make it a walk-in so he has room to exercise.

[shantipriya]

66. Clinton

Bill Clinton has become senile.

[Imagevision]

122. Has Bill Clinton joined the Skull & Bones and/or the Carlyle group??

recently??

[Coexist]

67. I am so over Bill Clinton nowadays.

Never thought I would say that, but Bill Bush irritates me.

[redqueen]

69. What about all the documents they're hiding?

Isn't he at all concerned about that?

[H5N1]

71. He is most concerned about his image as 'senior statesman'

Above the fray and all that. Non partisan. Wise and honorable.
He is a complete sell out.

[redqueen]

77. Screw his image.

I'm so sick of seeing so many democrats willing to trade their principles for success.

If we sell out to corporate power so we can win, what have we really won? NOTHING!

[Megahurtz]

75. Clinton is a Sellout. n/t

[anotherdrew]

78. so... they OWN Clinton now it seems

[anotherdrew]

80. THIS is why people "don't know where the dems stand"

Clinton was NEVER any good, better than bush isn't good enough

[PDXWoman]

81. What?

Never any good? He was the best we've had in decades!

[anotherdrew]

96. I used to think so too

but the facts are not really all that good for Bill. After all, if he had done ANYTHING about Iraq in his 8 years, bush might not have been able to get us in this mess today.

[Chicago Democrat]

82. Fuck you Bill! Fuck you Bill! Glad your gone! Now Shut up! BOOO!

What is with this sell out ex pres. Carter got better. Clinton became a neo con.

[Lost4words]

83. I wish the Clinton's would just go away!

What an absolute disappointment they both have become!

:puke:

[earth mom]

98. You said it-& the Clintons can take the *es with them when they go!

:puke:

[bushisanidiot]

84. ``He's just as entitled to his politics as I am to mine.'' - Clinton is

being diplomatic. I think he's trying really hard not to be a partisan former president. He's complimenting the guy on his family and his intelligence, but clearly points out that he doesn't agree with him politically.

[Ambrose]

85. Still don't get the hostility

I reread the article and I still don't see what everyone is bitching about? Are you all upset that he said the man is smart or that he didn't start jumping up and down like a lunatic attacking the man's character? What exactly do the Clinton haters here hate Clinton for? I'm so confused...

[DemonFighterLives]

87. Something bad must have happened during his operaation

and his sleeping on the floor next to poppy.
He seems so different, possibly corrupted.
I think Poppy put some koolaid in his Iv.

Back to the 50's with the Roberts clan.
:argh:

[choie]

94. please...

I'm so over Clinton - he's such a damn shill.:puke:

[FreeStateDemocrat]

95. Clinton playing statesman until he wants to be play dem again

when he tries to get back into the WH by hanging on Hillary’s coat tails. This guy is an inveterate liar, I know that no one died, but his big problem is that he didn’t have to lie but did it anyway. That is the difference between just telling a lie and being a liar he doesn’t have any moral compunction that restrains him from saying anything that will advance his agenda. Helping the working class is not a goal but a useful strategy to acquire power. In a word he is a PHONEY.

[HeeBGBz]

97. Suck up

Rapidly losing any respect for Clintonia.

[Generator]

99. Clinton is dead to me

Isn't that the dramatic way of saying you are shunning a former family member. I mean it. It didn't just happen. It's been happening for years. And years.

If any Clinton family would like to post all the hard work he has done the last few years fighting the fascism that has been creeping in and taking over America..his fight against the Bush admin..any of them? Please do.

I don't think you will find much but a few soft meaningless words betrayed by his lack of action and his own self interest.

[depakid]

102. I'd expect no less from Clinton

who was probably the best Republican president ever....

[ibegurpard]

107. Thanks Bill

You're a great help.

[cosmicdot]

109. I might not mind 'too much' if the times weren't so extreme ...

but, we're dealing with a secretive, defiant, contentious, arrogant, contemptuous, corrupt, diabolical, deceitful cabal with a radical agenda and control of the voting machines ... an illegitimate administration to boot ... we're fighting for our rights, our freedom, our lives, the Founders' principles, and more ...

It's the context, stupid.

As Poppy might say: not as this juncture


Hope is more than just a place in Arkansas ... it rests in every action and decision taken which either enables or opposes this 'administration'.

[ecoalex]

111. Caryle group

Just more from the evil marriage all against us.It's about $$$$ Power F the rest of youse all.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

112. i'll say it again....bill is a self-serving yuppie bastard

always has been. always will be

and his 8 years in office helped the GOP destroy the democratic party

thanks a lot, asshole

[raysr]

114. Like a little dance

"Ok kids, line up and move to the right!".

[bemildred]

116. Surely we are not supposed to take the word of an impeached liar?

Who got a blowjob from an intern?
Heaven forfend. This is just further evidence of Robert's moral turpitude.

[onecent]

117. What hold does ***Bush have over all these people???????????/ n/t

[Castilleja]

126. That's a really, really good question.

What is it, hypnotic or what??

[faithnotgreed]

118. so good to know that most here are finally calling him out

many times over the past couple years - esp the past year - when clinton would say some complimentary thing about bush or how we cant rush to judgment or on letterman when he feigned ignorance about the dsm etc etc etc

multiple people here would respond with
how clever clinton was and he is "keeping his friends close and his enemies closer" line
i just couldnt believe it but tried to stay out of those threads

i am as sorry as the next person that he speaks like this publicly but after his first term he has gone steadily downhill for me ever since

and i am sorry for many of his supporters who have come to realize just how much of an actor or manipulator he is
but this is who he seems to really be
maybe he doesnt even know who he really is
when you see him he does seem to put on a persona but then i cant really know its just a feeling based on his many years in the spotlight

its a bit sad for some but so very necessary that we look to new leadership
people who will speak up and stand for something real that supports all peoples

im so glad to be here with all of you
no we arent going to agree on everything but i have to tell you it does my heart good that we are starting to agree that the clintons are NOT our future

goodnight bill (and hillary)
we hardly knew ye

edit: a bit of grammar

[lateo]

119. It is time for Bill to...

take Bush 41's cock out of his mouth...or put it back in so we don't have to hear him any more.

[femrap]

127. Good One!

Check out Opus Dei...a weird Roman Catholic organization that Roberts and his wife are involved with....!

Roberts is one extremely dangerous person....and so was Clinton. Clinton did not serve the true Democrats of this country....NAFTA?? Pleeeeez.

[lateo]

128. Indeed...

Clinton was a terrible President who just happened to have, arguably, a good time economically. But he allowed the Republicans to rule the roost and set us up for this current bullshit.

[Seabiscuit]

130. A rather graphic way of saying "Go stuff yourself, Willie!" LOL! n/t

[Pachamama]

120. Seems to me that based on Big Dawg's & Hilary's recent comments that

someone has gotten to them....

As far as I'm concerned, we are a one party system and the day I saw Clinton and Poppy Bush chucklin on the boat and hearing Bab's calling Clinton "son", I knew they had something on him or that he's part of the Bush Crime Family Game now...

I don't want anyone with the name Bush or Clinton on the 2008 ticket..this country needs a fresh start....if we can even hope to be so lucky and make it that far....

[Imagevision]

123. I agree, I want no-one associated with the Bush mob, sorry Hillary!

I used to rather like the both of you, nothing personal, but I'd vote for Boxer in a heartbeat if they would draft a smart gal to run for President.

[Imagevision]

125. This is getting good, can't wait for future statements from Bill

Hillary may pull an Al Gore and tell him to stay out of the campaign?

BIll, you're an excellant/professional speaker - however your BS. as you've aged? pssst! can be detected a mile away ez!

[Seabiscuit]

129. Clinton's become a total whore. I had more respect for him when he was

lying about Monica.

[ecstatic]

131. Good man, so what if he wanted to reverse voting and civil rights?

Good going Clinton. You impress me more each day :sarcasm: