Jessica Lynch to be Honored

[sabra]

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http://www.wboy.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=4350

Jessica Lynch to be Honored

Former Iraq POW to be honored at upstate New York event.
Story by The Associated Press

SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. (AP) - Former Iraq POW Jessica Lynch will be honored tomorrow at a fund-raising event being held in Saratoga Springs, New York.

The 22-year-old from Palestine, West Virginia, will receive the Hope and Courage Award from the Teresian House Foundation during tomorrow night's gala being held next door to the Saratoga Race Course.

Earlier in the day, Lynch will be in the winner's circle to present the first-place award to the winner of the third race.

Lynch was an Army supply clerk riding in a convoy through an Iraqi town in 2003 when her vehicle was ambushed after making a wrong turn. She suffered serious injuries and was in an Iraqi hospital for nine days before being rescued by American soldiers.

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[SoCalDem]

1. "rescued" is the wrong term.. She was "turned over"

to US forces.. She was not "heroic"..she was injured in the attack, and then hospitalized and well taken care of by Iraqi doctors & nurses.. She was unlucky..not heroic..

[rocktivity]

5. I think she WAS lucky

that the Iraqis didn't take away her Geneva Convention rights because she was a "detainee", put her in a "stress position", and "manipulate her environment." Instead, they put her in a hospital and told the coalition troops to come get her, the wimps!

:headbang:
rocknation

[manic expression]

22. I wish US forces

would treat their POW's with the same respect.

I heard Iraqi nurses sang her to sleep.

[SoCalDem]

66. Lucky AND unlucky..

Lucky to have survived and been well cared for, but unlucky to have the need of both.,.

[Imagevision]

70. Yes but she came clean in the interview with Diane Sawyer that it wasn't

all true the way it was portrayed.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

100. "Came clean"? She wasn't the one perpetrating the lies about....

...her ordeal in Iraq, it was the Pentagon brass, and Rick Bragg, the guy they picked to write Lynch's autobiography.

[gardenista]

137. SHE "came clean"? WTF?

SHE never had anything to do with the media circus surrounding her capture. SHE never asked for this. SHE is probably a democrat. Did you hear her interviewed on Air America by Al Franken?

SHE never portrayed her story in any way other than how she portrayed it to Diane Sawyer.

SHE was used by the Pentagon to get media sympathy for the war, and SHE does not deserve to have her integrity questioned by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

[Mairead]

24. "Hero" seems to be a synonym for "veteran" in the US these days, SCD

Haven't you noticed?

I can't imagine what they'd call some soldier who really did something heroic, like save lives at the risk of her/his own. 'Fool', probably.

[Guitarman]

29. That is the way it is in the Norfolk, Va area...

The local news touts every sailor that has served in the Persian Gulf area during this "war" as our local heroes.

Let's just say, I have a hard time swallowing that one.

[Captain Hilts]

104. Agreed, Guitarman

My dad was a sub skipper, but my mother and I were horrified that the navy gave medals to the six sub skippers who got up from their acey duecy game, pushed a button to launch a missile at Iraq - with no risk of suffering retaliation. It just doesn't fit my definition of 'heroic'. Slade Cutter, who just died was a real hero.

We have boundless admiration for submariners, but getting a medal for shooting an uncontested missile stank. And we hope some enlisted men got medals for loading the missiles, and chiefs for giving the command to push the button.

[6000eliot]

41. Unless you run for office as a Democrat, that is.

[boddhi]

63. unless you're Kerry

... or McCain until you've dropped out of the presidential race

[SoCalDem]

68. Heroes these days are any people who undertake a dangerous job

Soldiering IS a job, undertaken voluntarily these days. Fire fighters and cops are much the same. Their JOB description is dangerous, so the general public (who is basically afraid of their own shadows these days) has to elevate these professions to hero status.. I guess they do it to avoid having to accept responsibility for their own safety.. It's "HARD WORK" being safe, so the HEROES simply have to do that job for us..:eyes:

[Jersey Ginny]

73. More specifically, heroes are veterans who are not DEMOCRATS n/t

[trapper914]

90. I'll go you one better...

"Hero" is defined as any U.S. soldier made famous by the MSM through no action of their own.

[Ratty]

151. I think you also have to be Movie of the Week - worthy

No matter what you personally have done or endured, if the networks are clamoring for your story then apparently you deserve a medal. Give the masses what they want I guess.

I have nothing against Jessica Lynch, she seemed like a reasonable woman in the interviews I have seen. I just can't shake the feeling she's being used, and has been used, to apply a heroic, noble tint on a dirty, nasty, criminal war. I'm guessing there are a lot of soldiers who also deserve medals, but we'll never hear about them.

[radwriter0555]

25. You got that right. Maybe we should HONOR ALL THE injured war mongers

who went to iraq to collect a paycheck and got wounded?

[BikeWriter]

30. Injured war mongers? I take it you don't support the troops...

They are following orders!

[peacebird]

50. my assumption is he was referring to the mercenaries and halliburton folk

not the soldiers...

:shrug:

[radwriter0555]

77. a dog follows orders. Killing a human for no reason is murder. US troops

still have a brain, free will and a conscience. Murdering innocent iraqis while being paid with MY tax dollars for NO REASON is murder.

I have no respect for anyone who is in this unlawful invasion. The US troops are nothing more than the New American Gestapo complete with death squads.

[BikeWriter]

82. So once again American troops are called murderers.

You and I are responsible for the people giving them orders.

[geek tragedy]

94. The ignore function is a wonderful thing. nt

[BikeWriter]

112. That's true. I've tried to ignore such people for forty years...

It is a difficult thing to do.

[radwriter0555]

119. I'm not responsible for this war. The republicans are, as is anyone who

excuses this murder for hire.

Supporting the troops in iraq is no different than supporting the nazis when they were slaughtering jews.

It's all a matter of choice. These troops can get up and walk away.

I'd rather serve 15 months in jail than commit murder for a republican's profits.

[BikeWriter]

127. You are just as responsible as the troops...

in Iraq. They have only one vote, the same as you. You say you'd desert and spend time in jail. Saying it is easier than doing it.

[fujiyama]

131. And why don't you just stop paying US taxes?

Unless you're not American, Face it. You're just as guilty. Your taxes fund this military regime.

Please get off your high and mighty horse. Many that have gone there originally signed up to help in case of natural disasters here at home. They went to help fund their education (like Jessica Lynch who wanted to be a teacher).

[BikeWriter]

134. I told them the same thing.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

91. IMHO, comments like yours are born out of extreme ignorance....

...based on the facts that you've probably never served in the military, have never been ordered to do anything that you definitely did not want to do, and have never been in a life or death situation.

Here's a couple of questions for you....if you're a soldier ordered to Iraq even though you disagree with the policies of the NeoCon Junta, do you refuse to go, get court-martialed, spend time in a military prison and jeopardize any future employment in the U. S., or do you decide to go and hope you get back home in one piece? How about adding the idea that you're the primary earner for your family, and you can't find any job in the States that will pay anywhere close to what you're being paid in the military?

Here's another couple of questions for you...after you've made the decision to go to Iraq, what would you do if your unit comes under fire by pissed-off Iraqis wanting to kill you for what they see as an the worst injustice to ever befall their country? Do you shoot back, hoping to save your life and the lives of your friends in your unit, or do you shoot your weapon aiming away from possibly hitting any Iraqis, or do you just not fire back at all?

I have no respect for people on this board that make complete generalizations and blanket statements.

[Mairead]

110. This position doesn't seem up to your usual standard

Usually I agree with the positions you take, but this one seems more reactive than thoughtful.

Certainly you're right in your illumination of the probable consequences of refusing to go, but a major consequence of giving in is the strong likelihood of becoming a killer of innocents.

Is killing innocent people a good price to pay for a 'clean' record and easier job search later? At what point should someone baulk and say the price in innocent lives is just too high -- 10? 100? 1000?

Or is there any fixed point? If you could be assured of another $20K p.a., would you kill a whole village?

It seems to me that that's the tradeoff being talked about here. Radwriter is saying even 1 innocent life is too high a price to pay for one's own later material comforts.

As Stanley Milgram demonstrated in his series of experiments on obedience to authority, people will carry out the most awful acts and excuse themselves as having only followed orders. But should 'orders' be a Get Out Of Responsibility Free card when the penalty for disobedience is less than one's own death?

[U4ikLefty]

126. Excellent point

n/t

[BikeWriter]

115. Thank you.

[radwriter0555]

120. I have no respect for people who support murder, genocide and slaughter.

What happened to integrity and ethics?

You walk away no matter what the consequence if you have integrity and ethics. You stand your ground and you do the right thing. It IS that simple.


Murdering people for profit isn't doing the right thing.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

122. U. S. troops are killing people for "profit"? Show me the "profit"....

...the troops are making from defending themselves if fired upon? Tell me the "profit" earned by a U. S. soldier who kills any Iraqi in combat or under any other situation.

Where's the "profit" to the soldier's family if the soldier returns home in a flag-draped box?

Where's the "profit" to the soldier and their families if the soldier returns home missing part of their brain, and/or one or more limbs?

Where's the "profit" to the soldier and their families if the soldier returns in one piece but his mind is gone?

IMHO, trying to hype a situation over which a soldier has no control lacks integrity and ethics, too. You may feel that a soldier can walk away from bad situations, but it just isn't that simple, and you should know that.

[Mairead]

129. The soldiers aren't getting any of the money, but that doesn't mean

that money isn't why they're over there killing people. They are killing people for profit--just not for personal profit.

As Smedley Butler said, it's a racket.

[radwriter0555]

133. It's a paycheck. If they had integrity, they'd refuse to serve under this

treasonous regime, no matter what the cost.

It IS that simple. Cairo is 800 miles away from Bagdhad. Any US Citizen who has a mind to can walk there, away from the service of the New Americanazis.

[BikeWriter]

135. Show us your commitment. Stop paying your taxes...

What's a little jail time to someone with conviction?

[BikeWriter]

128. Fine, refuse to pay taxes then.

[stanwyck]

109. OK. Rush has his "crazy liberal" quote

for today. And Hannity. And O'Reilly.
You should get a check from those warmongers for your efforts.

[BikeWriter]

111. You could always refuse to pay your taxes...

since they're being used to pay those troops.

[BikeWriter]

33. I don't get this fuckin' shit. Our W/I/A are war mongers?

[wrlwnd]

34. sad

grow up

[laylah]

56. Exactly! n/t

[retnavyliberal]

69. yea, how very humane

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-11-06-lynch_x.htm

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In the book, author Rick Bragg writes that scars on Lynch's body and medical records indicate she was sodomized, but that Lynch recalls nothing: "Jessi lost three hours. She lost them in the snapping bones, in the crash of the Humvee, in the torment her enemies inflicted on her after she was pulled from it."

He adds, "The records do not tell whether her captors assaulted her almost lifeless, broken body after she was lifted from the wreckage, or if they assaulted her and then broke her bones into splinters until she was almost dead."

</snip>
I think you skipped a step or two in your time-line there SoCal

[SoCalDem]

71. Gee. I didn't realize that FAUX SNOOZE had written a book

I heard HER` tell the story, and have watched many "retractions" of the heroic staged rescue..When they figured out that most inteligent people were not buying the "story", it pretty much faded away..

[retnavyliberal]

72. Perhaps you can define "authorized biography" for me....

because I must be misunderstanding it.

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PALESTINE, W.Va. — Jessica Lynch, the former prisoner of war whose rescue made her the most famous GI in the Iraq war, was raped by her captors, according to her authorized biography.
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[Media_Lies_Daily]

92. How about the fact that Rick Bragg was fired from the New York Times....

...for paying stringers to write his articles while he claimed full credit for those articles?

How about the fact that Bragg based his entire book on the information fed to him by the military, to include alleged documents from her military file?

How about the fact that Lynch has steadfastly refuted the charges that she was abused by her Iraqi captors in ANY way?

Lynch's parents authorized the writing of the book because Lynch was in no condition to do so. What they didn't realize, was the fact that they absolutely no input into how the book was written, and/or the contents of the book.

"Authorized biography"? Only in the eyes of those that have consistently played fast and loose with the truth since the Coup of December 2000.

[retnavyliberal]

113. Well, gee, looking at the cover photo...

she seems to be in ok shape. Are you saying she was forced to put this book out? Maybe someone should get her a lawyer if there are lies in her authorized biography!!!!

Just because we do not like a certain fact, or something does not help us make our point, does not mean it is a lie. The conspiracy theorists drive me insane. The only person that was at these events that can or will talk is her. I will go with what "she" says directly and by proxy.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

121. The book was published without her personal consent....

...what is it you didn't understand about that? She was still in the hospital recovering from her wounds wheh the book was authorized by the Pentagon after discussions with Lynch's parents. I'm sorry you don't like that, but then again, you don't have to like it.

Additionally, she has stated publicly many times that there are things written in that book that were untrue. Where were you when that was discussed more than once on this board?

Additionally, you made the comment that you "will go with what 'she' says directly and by proxy". How come you're not willing to do that when she stated that the book contained lies about what happened to her in Iraq?

As far as your rant about conspiracies goes, what conspiracy did I mention that got you wrapped around the axle?

[retnavyliberal]

155. I would love to see a link where she says that the book has lies please...

if you have one. Thank you.

[MemphisTiger]

2. For what? Getting caught and forcing others to risk

their lives to rescue her bacause she got lost? I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but I'm not sure she should get a medal for being taken prisoner.

[Ian David]

3. She didn't screw-up enough to get a medal

If she'd gotten her entire division killed, she would have gotten a medal and a promotion to Deputy Director of Defense.

Now, Lyndsie English... I bet she will get a medal.

[anotherdrew]

15. its england not english

[damntexdem]

11. She didn't force others to risk their lives to rescue her.

Had the U.S. military simply come and got her, as requested, or had they not shot at the ambulance that was trying to deliver her to U.S. authorities, no one's life need have been put at risk. As it was, the lives actually put at risk were Lynch's, and those of the healthcare personnel and the other patients in the hospital that the U.S. militarily unnecessarily attacked to 'rescue' Lynch.

She deserves a medal if for no other reason than having to put up with being put through the Bushista PR/spin machine.

[LostinVA]

19. Or, if her convoy had been given directions

And not abandoned, then none of them would have been killed, injured, or/and taken prisoner.

I think Lynch DOES deserve to be honored, because she and her family have steadfastly refused to play the Bush Poster Soldier.

[HeeBGBz]

16. Sorry, but you do sound like a jerk

She was in a group of soldiers. Most of whom were killed. You sound like it was all her fault for not dying with the rest of them. I seriously doubt she was the one who got the convoy lost.

She's probably not a hero, but give the girl a break.

[MemphisTiger]

28. My point is that you shouldn't get a medal for being part

of a screw up. It's not like she saved the lives of all or some of the soldiers in her unit. She rolled on to the wrong road, got shot and taken prisoner. It's also not like she saved the lives of the others captures by risking hers. I just have a huge problem with the military handing out medals like candy now. She served honorably, but it doesn't deserve a medal.

[annarbor]

37. How do you know what she did.....

I guess I missed that part where Lynch was the driver of the vehicle and was therefore responsible for the death of her platoon mates, not to mention her best friend. Did she return fire during the shootout? That poor girl was used as a huge propaganda tool when she returned, she disputed the bullshit every chance she got. All in all, I think she's been pretty humble and quiet about her time in Iraq. She survived a horrible ordeal...

Ann Arbor

[MemphisTiger]

43. Anybody that sees combat survives a horrible ordeal

and don't get medals, they get service ribbons, but not medals. I'm just not understanding where she went above and beyond the call of duty here to deserve a medal.

[Pepperbelly]

59. if you knew half as much as your post indicates ...

you would know that she was wounded under fire.

And that certainly qualifies for a medal.

[MemphisTiger]

86. A purple heart, yes.

[Booster]

53. Actually her friend Lori was driving and I agree with you about

Jessica being used by the Pentagon & Bush for their agenda. I admire Jessica for not going along with their BS and also her Dad who wouldn't go along with the BS from the very beginning. I also say give the girl a break.

[jbane]

35. Lay OFF J. Lynch. She served OUR country...

She did her job, she's humble and she's a normal young woman thrust into a hell of a situation both in what happened to her in Iraq and the media blitz at home.

[MemphisTiger]

44. I'm not blaming her for anything, I just think she doesn't deserve

a medal for getting caught. That's all.

[Pepperbelly]

60. Judge much?

It is the Hope and Freedom Award from a Catholic charity. Calm down.

[MemphisTiger]

85. Ohhhhhh, I was under the impression it was from

the military like a silver star or something like that. This makes more sense.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

95. She received a "Purple Heart" medal for being wounded/injured....

...while under fire from the military. She's being given an AWARD by the group in New York state...not nearly the same as being awarded a medal while in the military.

[Captain Hilts]

105. She agreed she's not a hero.

She knows what heroes are and that she isn't one.

Good for her.

[gardenista]

136. THANK YOU! I don't know what is wrong with some people on this board

Jessica Lynch did her best in a horrible situation, and this bashing of her is disgusting.

[LostinVA]

142. More than enough, especially after the fact

For her courage and integrity after the "rescue," she is a hero to me. For refusing to kowtow to the Admin and be their poster girl, for living up to her promise to Lori, for everything. Jessica Lynch gets two thumbs up from this cynical pinko.

[gardenista]

150. This one, too!

She is now a hero in my book!

[LostinVA]

152. "Cynical Pinkos for Jessica" Club

We can be the founding members...

[gardenista]

153. Sounds good! I suggest we put a pink heart on our bumpers

and call the meeting to order!

[LostinVA]

154. That;s actually not a bad idea...

[rman]

83. Maybe she'll be honored for not going with RW spin regarding

her ordeal.
And yes, you do sound like a jerk.

[MemphisTiger]

84. You may be right on both points

[gardenista]

138. If only people would recognise that she is one of us.

This bashing of her makes me so sick.

[LostinVA]

143. I said that two days ago when this thread started

"Fuck her," and "she endorses Chimpy," etc. Crazy.

[gardenista]

149. Crazy made up freeper food. nt

[Mizmoon]

4. Where's Shoshana Johnson?

Is she going to be honored too?

[Dhalgren]

6. No, she wasn't available - too black...

[livinginphotographs]

7. Last I heard...

Her life was a mess. PTSD and broke.

I guess it helps to be a blonde white girl... :shrug:

[Xithras]

58. Nope. Shoshana is doing very well today.

She avoids the media spotlight by choice, but she's earned quite a few awards and honors from the NAACP, veterans groups, and others. Today she's spending time with her daughter and making a more than decent living giving speeches on the lecture circuit. She gave a speech at a local college about a year ago about heroism being colorblind that had several thousand people in attendance. As I understand it, she makes a few thousand dollars a speech, and is averages a few every month.

I can't say anything about her having PTSD, but she seemed very normal, energetic, and passionate at her speech, and appeared to be doing very well.

[boddhi]

64. Thanks for the real info

It would suck to be the source of yet another urban myth about her

[LostinVA]

79. Jessica Lynch AND Shoshanna have received

awards together. I remember them both being honored at an award ceremony for a woman's group a years or so ago, because Jessica was on crutches, and Shoshanna had either a crutch or a cane, and they were all dressed up to the nines.

[livinginphotographs]

89. Glad to hear it.

I saw her on Oprah a while back (my ex-gf watched Oprah, not me, honestly, seriously) and she seemed to be having some troubles.

[bushisanidiot]

38. Don't be silly. She's not a blonde white girl..

:P

[Captain Hilts]

107. I heard an excellent interview with Johnson

on the radio. It was about an hour and I came away really liking her.

I'm glad she's going aroudn speaking to kids. What I'm NOT glad about is that she speaks extremely clearly - that immediately identified her to me as growing up in a military family - but her grammar was horrible.

She could really go places if she spoke more correctly. It was weird hearing someone with such good diction speak so poorly. A little coaching would ensure she goes places and does things in her career.

[livinginphotographs]

8. And there's Shosana Johnson

The first thing to come up on google:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/shoshana.asp

"Shoshana Johnson, the other female U.S. POW of the Iraq war, is slated to receive a far smaller disability pension than that granted Jessica Lynch. "

[LostinVA]

20. Jessica Lynch has been very vocal about Shosanna

getting screwed, and has set up an educational fund with alot of her book money, specifically for the children of soldiers killed in Iraq. She also got ABC's "Extreme Home Makeover" to build a new house for the parents of Lori Piestewa, who are raising Lori's children. AND, helped get a museum honoring Native America soldiers built.

Lynch is okay. It's not her fault the MSM fixates on blond women.

[livinginphotographs]

21. I'm not blaming Lynch by any means.

Both of them went through something horrible.

I blame the media (and the military, to some extent) though for putting Lynch on a pedestal and screwing Shosanna.

[bushisanidiot]

39. Good point about the MSM's fixation on blonde white girls in trouble

i agree with you that Jessica does seem to be a very decent human being. it's just frustrating to see how biased the MSM is in their breathless pursuits to find the next big story about a blonde white girl in trouble.. bah.

[wanpete]

49. The number of countless media hours spent on the blonde beauty

missing in Aruba is dumbfounding. Nancy disgrace, Greta, Scarborough, Larry King, Geraldo, ad nauseum have stretched this non story into two months of programming. Sadly, I do not think she will be found. It just goes to show that if you are white and beautiful in America, your life is valued more (being blonde is a major plus). I wish Shoshana and Jessica well.

[Karenina]

46. Has Shoshanna EVER spoken

about the "good 'ol white boy" who "profiled" her as NOT AMERICAN (Name , rank and serial number delivered in a southern Ami accent were not enough to appease this guy) and subjected her to humiliation until her unit mates forced him to call it off?

[livinginphotographs]

47. Where did you hear this?

[Karenina]

48. I read it on DU

in the very first flurry of reports back in the day. My "bookmark" was reading accounts from several wires, then seeing them ALL disappear. THAT was where I got hip to the shit of story spin!

[NYC]

55. I remember reading it.

Shoshanna Johnson's rescuers said/thought she was not American.

[saigon68]

130. I REMEMBER THAT TOO

[Media_Lies_Daily]

96. Do you happen to have a link to whatever it is you're referencing?

[gardenista]

139. No, of course not, it some kind of made up crap to justify a ridiculous

position on an issue he/she knows nothing about.

[rocktivity]

9. You have to admit that her admitting the truth of what happened

took a lot of courage.

:headbang:
rocknation

[PassingFair]

12. Yup, in my mind, she deserves a medal

...just for telling the truth and refusing to catapult more lies for chimpy's propaganda campaign.

[DrFunkenstein]

42. Doing The Right Thing When It's Profitable To Do Wrong

She had the nation at her doorstep and all she had to do was nod her head at the right times. She could have become an icon of heroism for women and, well, all of us. But she didn't. She told a hard, hard truth.

If I ever saw her, I'd give her a big hug and say, "Thank you. You are an inspiration."

[ChairmanAgnostic]

54. how far has our society fallen

when we give medals to troops sworn to obey orders and to tell the truth,
for simply telling the truth?

[gardenista]

140. Thing is, she didn't "admit" anything. She told her truth when she

finally had an opportunity to do so.

And I agree, it did take a lot of courage to tell the truth in the face of all the lies perpetrated about her.

[davidinalameda]

10. do you all know anything about this girl's background

why bash this girl?

it's very unbecoming of adults to criticize someone who enlisted in the military so she could go to college and become a teacher

[anotherdrew]

18. no one criticized HER

I don't think anyone has anything bad to say about her.

[progressivebydesign]

75. I don't see bashing.. I mostly see puzzlement.

People are wondering why this girl, who was cared for in a hospital surrounded by doctors and nurses, and "rescued" on camera, is more of a hero than any of the other troops that have been through much worse? They are asking why Shoshanna, who is black, is not treated the same way?? That's all.. just wondering.

[LostinVA]

80. Some people on this thread have bashed her

Saying "Fuck her" is bashing. Not saying you did it, just saying some have,,,,

Jessica has also made a point of being public about certain things, especially about her friend Lori. Shoshanna hasn't been treated right by the media or the Army, but Jessica has been vocal about that, too. Also, I saw Shoshanna on TV not that long ago, and to an extent, she chooses to be private about Iraq.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

97. Maybe she's being treated as an hero because she refused to....

...agree to the so-called "official story" that was fabricated by Pentagon officials desperate to create a positive imagery of the war they created based on a pack of lies.

Maybe you ought to do a little more research on Shoshanna...she gives speeches on the topic of "courage" several times a month for a pretty good fee. She also chooses to avoid media attention.

[kentuck]

13. She never said she was a hero...

She been very honest about the whole matter. She still has very serious injuries and must use a crutch. In my mind, she is one of the good stories out of this war. She should not be criticized, in my opinon.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

27. She's also financially helped her comrade's family...

Another woman she was close to during basic training and who was killed in the skirmish. Lynch has gone out of her way to provide for them through the proceeds of her book. She's all right.

[BikeWriter]

31. Damned right she is.

Any proceeds from one of my books will be shared the same way.

[katinmn]

14. Her rescue was a staged PR event

I wish they'd just leave the poor kid alone. She has some serious health issues and doesn't need to be used further.

[gatorboy]

23. I remember the coverage of that.

Didn't they drape her in an American Flag when the film crews arrived? They made it out as if her first request upon being rescued was, "For the love of God! Someone get me an American Flag!"

[Kraklen]

17. Hopefully she'll use the opportunity...

to denounce the Bush administration.

[GoldenOldie]

26. This young girl has more honor and integrity than anyone in DC

Jessica Lynch a small town girl who joined the military in order to pay for college to become a teacher. I am sure that the Money the CON's attempted to bribe her and her family with could have been put to good use. She and her family chose not to be the puppets for this administration and the Pentagon Generals.

She has kept her promise to her comrade-in-arms, Lori Piestewa that if anything should happen to either of them the survivor would look after the family of the one who died. Jessica has used her funds to establish college educations for Lori's 2-children. The Piestewa family and their tribe have adopted Jessica as one of their own and the Home that has been built for them includes a bedroom for Jessica whenever she vists her Piestewa family.

This young lady lost her best friend and will carry her injuries throughout her life has more character than the idiot POTUS AWOL Commander-in-Chief and his corporate team of thugs could muster together.

[BikeWriter]

32. I agree completely. She has shown honor and...

should herself be honored.

[Catrina]

36. I agree completely

She refused to go along with the fairytale the military had been telling about her once she was free to do so.

She went out of her way to give credit and thanks to the Iraqis who she says, saved her life.

She has emphasized that not only was she not a hero, she has told anyone who will listen that she was scared to death and didn't even try to shoot. Her father also contradicted the federal fairy-tale being told about his daughter and used as propaganda for this war.

The military tried to paint her as a female rambo, and her captors as evil terrorists. She corrected those lies, despite ramifacations from the rabid rightwing.

I admire her and think it took a lot of courage to not allow the lies, about herself and the Iraqis (who would never have been believed had she not verified their claims) to prevail. She stood up for the truth. I think she would have profited more had she let the lies stand, and been trotted out to State Of The Union addresses etc. But she told the truth. And we should thank her for that, imo. She's from a very poor area in WV. But apparently rich where it counts, in integrity. :patriot:

[maxrandb]

40. Pray that She Never Runs for Political Office as a Democrat. n/t

[gardenista]

141. Why, because her service will be used against her, as it has been on this

thread?

Sad, ain't it?

[cyberpj]

45. anyone see Tim Robbins' EMBEDDED Live play on DVD?

just askin'

wonder how she really feels about all this still.......

[boddhi]

65. Amazing show

must see dvd....

[cyberpj]

132. I just brought it up here because of their Jessica Lynch act.

Hey! Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Joey Liberal]

51. Lynch is no hero

PFC Lynch could not clear her weapon, which is something that all Soldiers should be able to do without thinking about it. She fell to her knees and prayed when her rifle jammed. She's no hero. She was a Soldier that was not well trained or well led. Is she a good person? Hell yes. I think she's a great person. But a hero, worthy of military decorations? No. Her rescue was a sham.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

98. Let's take a look at the facts of the situation in which she found....

...herself. Lynch suffered the following injuries during the crash of the vehicle in which she was riding:

* a head laceration,
* an injury to her spine,
* fractures to her right arm,
* fractures to both legs,
* fractures to her right foot and ankle

Based on the extent of her injuries, it is extremely doubtful that Lynch "fell to her knees and prayed", much less did anything at all with her rifle. Personally speaking, I would probably have either been passed out or screaming my head off.

It is also interesting that you claim that Lynch was "not well trained or well led", when nothing in the events of the ambush or their attempts to get away from the ambush indicates that at all. If you believe that, then you probably also believe that any of the U. S. troops that get blown up by IEDs are also "not well trained or well led".

The only comment in your post with which I agree is the fact that "Her rescue was a sham". The rest of your post is inaccurate at best.

[Joey Liberal]

116. Perhaps you should read her book

Based on the extent of her injuries, it is extremely doubtful that Lynch "fell to her knees and prayed", much less did anything at all with her rifle. Personally speaking, I would probably have either been passed out or screaming my head off.
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In her book, she states that her weapon jammed and she fell to her knees and prayed.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

123. Her book was written by a guy that was fired from the New York Times...

...for claiming the work of stringers for his own. That was clearly unethical behavior

The words written in that book were fed to the author by the Pentagon...they needed a female hero, and the author was willing to write anything he was told to write. Lynch is not responsible for any of the crap in that book.

She didn't fall to her knees because she couldn't even get to her knees.

[LostinVA]

146. And, due to the extent of her injuries, that she was sexually assaulted

The Iraqi doctors and nurses who cared for her said she had not been rapes, either. Per a friend who is an ER doctor: there is NO WAY she could have been raped with her injuries and survived.

I believe the Iraqi medical personnel WHO SAVED HER LIFE before a bunch of Pentagon hacks who scrambled to find something to humiliate Lynch after she wouldn't play ball with them.

Foiled by a 19-year-old girl.

[Joey Liberal]

117. She was not well trained or well led

Her Commanding Officer got them lost. They had not bothered to clean their weapons. That is not being well led and it is not the result of good training.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

124. Right. Whatever you say.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

52. she endorsed chimpy

and appeared with him in wv on july 4th last year

fuck her

[ribrepin]

57. I hadn't heard that

Do you have a link?

[Pepperbelly]

61. she certainly did nothing to support the fictions they built up around

her and that says a lot about her.

[davidinalameda]

76. actually she did

she told the truth

and I never heard that she endorsed Bush either

and I don't doubt that she would have appeared with him last year--of course they would drag her out during the campaign

[Pepperbelly]

78. that's what I said ...

So you both agree and take exception?

Odd.

[ezekiel333]

62. What city in WV? n/t

[LostinVA]

81. No she did not

Although I DID read the Bushies tried to get her to, just like nancy Reagan.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

99. Do you have a link proving your story?

[gardenista]

144. Got a link to support your crap assertion?

I believe you are misinformed.

[greblc]

67. Good, but lets move on, her 15 minutes are over.

There are plenty of others to honnor.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

101. She didn't ask for those "15 minutes"....the Pentagon and the media...

...are responsible for that.

[progressivebydesign]

74. I wish her no ill will.. but why her? Pretty and blonde? Female? n/t

[Catfight]

87. She's an attention whore...puke. nt

[Tesla]

88. I hope she sees the plight of her fellow vets, and stands up for them.

Let's just pray her good heart wins over, and she has a heroes courage to stand for what is right!!!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

102. She's already been doing that.

[gardenista]

145. She has answered your prayers ten times over, but gets no credit for it

from some people here.

She has raised thousands of dollars for Lori Peistewa's children and the children of other soldiers killed in Iraq.

She has shown herself to be a courageous young woman in the face of the RW spin machine, and has told the truth about what happened to her.

[LostinVA]

148. She helped build Lori's parents a huge home, helped in the

building of a ,museum honoring Native American soldiers. She has been made a legal member of the Hopi tribe, and LOris's parents consider her this daughter. She rocks. And she's barely legal to drink.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

103. Where have you gotten that idea?

[gardenista]

147. You are misinformed. She never asked for any of this.

Ignorance is also nauseating.

[LifeDuringWartime]

93. i was disgusted to read about this in the local paper

it seems like they'll do anything to make more money at the track x(

[Media_Lies_Daily]

106. The foundation hosting the award ceremony is the Teresian House....

Teresian House
<http://www.teresianhouse.com/>

QUOTE:

Teresian House is a not-for-profit home for the elderly nestled in thirteen acres of the scenic Pine Bush area of Albany, NY. Its view of the Helderberg Mountains and close proximity to the cultural riches of the state capital makes Teresian House an ideal home for people with diverse interests. Conducted by the Carmelite Sisters for the Aged and Infirm and under the sponsorship of the Roman Catholic Diocese, Teresian House is a 300-bed facility, which strives to provide the highest quality of care to the elderly in a home-like atmosphere. It is our goal to give residents that care which comes from traditional Roman Catholic commitment to the sanctity of life. This is implemented through a caring staff, volunteers, families and friends who dedicate themselves to serve God through care to the elderly. Teresian House strives to serve as a model of a high quality of life presented in an environment, which promotes human dignity, self-esteem, and inner peace of mind and soul.

Still think this is all about the race track?

[retnavyliberal]

114. And what is wrong with that? As Liberals....

i thought a group caring for the elderly would be applauded

[Media_Lies_Daily]

125. I responded to the other post because the poster was implying that....

...Lynch was being used solely to promote the race track. By posting the information on Teresian House, I was making it very clear that she was in town supporting the efforts of the Foundation to take care of the elderly.

It's pretty obvious that you completly missed the point I was making. Next time, try reading the post to which I'm responding before making yourself look bad.

[retnavyliberal]

156. Maybe I misunderstood you...

Your ending line :

Still think this is all about the race track?

Made me think you were implying there was an ulterior motive.

[DebinTx]

108. Lynch - a POW?? Since when?

Good grief.

[Rex]

118. Wow

nt