(Santorum) Leading Republican differs with Bush on evolution

[sabra]

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http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=1071656&tw=wn_wire_story

Republican differs with Bush on evolution

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A leading Republican senator allied with the religious right differed on Thursday with President Bush's support for teaching an alternative to the theory of evolution known as "intelligent design."

Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, a possible 2008 presidential contender who faces a tough re-election fight next year in Pennsylvania, said intelligent design, which is backed by many religious conservatives, lacked scientific credibility and should not be taught in science classes.

Bush told reporters from Texas on Monday that "both sides" in the debate over intelligent design and evolution should be taught in schools "so people can understand what the debate is about."

"I think I would probably tailor that a little more than what the president has suggested," Santorum, the third-ranking Republican member of the U.S. Senate, told National Public Radio. "I'm not comfortable with intelligent design being taught in the science classroom."

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[Mojambo]

1. Santorum must be reading some TERRIFYING poll numbers n/t

[skypilot]

9. That's exactly what it is.

The election is a ways off but Bob Casey Jr. is beating the shit out of Santorum in the polls. If the election were held today or tomorrow or next month Santorum would lose. He's trying to appear moderate and like less of the nutcase that we all know him to be.

[blm]

14. Add me to that - palpable fear in a state where they don't control the

voting machines....YET.

[antonialee839]

39. Intelligent Design I sure hope so! This guy needs to be

kicked to the curb. Casey can beat this creep.

Working woman in Pa.................

[phantom power]

2. Who is this impostor, and where is the real Santorum?

[Beaverhausen]

3. LOL!!!

[Mass]

23. Why - He is perfectly consistent with himself. He is catholic,

not evangelical.

[phantom power]

35. A couple reasons.

1) he's been a solid "toe-the-Bush-line" tool up til now, and this was a high profile break with the Bush line.

2) He also just reversed his position on stem cells, which is (I think) against the Catholic church's position, and also another break with the Bush party line.

[Mass]

37. Santorum is for stem cells research? Since when?

[phantom power]

48. Can't find my ref. Maybe I confused this with Frist.

[marbuc]

61. You're thinking of Frist

but the Cons are jumping (the radical right) ship so fast it's hard to keep track.

[Universal Acid]

95. He's fading fast...

He know's he's in trouble next election.

Santorum's in his last throws.

[Geoff R. Casavant]

42. Also on the interview

He revealed that on his Blackberry he keeps a list of all the names he has been called. He says it's because of his faith alone, but whenever I have heard someone use the terms he mentioned, it's usually because of his insistence on using his faith to pummel the rest of us into acting like he wants.

[Mass]

47. I found him frightening enough not knowing that.

This guy is crazy. I was just pointing that the ID remark was not necessarily a change on his position.

But the guy is crazy, no doubt about that.

[Javaman]

62. Here's a new name for his blackberry, fucking ass face jerk. :)

[pseudostar]

102. DAMN!

beat me to it.... :grr:

well, i still like mine better :)

[pseudostar]

101. Hey Rick....

Add "cockbiting fucktard" to the list.

[Javaman]

105. That is a good one LOL

[kbm8795]

106. And one wonders where he keeps. . .

a listing of all the names he has called the rest of us? In a warehouse?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

45. *GUFFAW*

:rofl: :yourock:

[Broken_Hero]

92. He is...

Hiding in a church, praying, that is where the real RS is, but in reality, he would rather go to a strip joint or a titty bar, everything that comes out of his mouth is pandering, and rallying his consituents, its his job, thats what all politicians do, dems/repugs, and thats what he is doing. I think he is trying to be more moderate to get a little more votes, but i don't think he will get squat, he will lose.

[geek tragedy]

4. Ouch! My jaw just hit the floor. eom

[devinsgram]

Wow, first Frist and Santorum

If we just let them go they'll do themselves in for us. Sit back and enjoy the show.

[stanwyck]

40. I'd like to think this is another

case of the right eating their own. But. I'm jaded and cynical and very suspicious.
I still think the right is intentionally splitting their stated viewpoints in order to keep their adherents under their big tent. Nobody knows exactly what is going on. So, the confusion works to their advantage. They're NOT against gay rights. Yes, they are. They're for stem cell research. No. They're not. They're for teaching intelligent design. Well, no, not really.
This kind of Chinese menu approach works wonders with the freepers. They're always happy because they get just the meal they ordered.
Only, of course, they don't. No one does. It's just happy talk to keep people satiated. Meanwhile, whatever gets done will be whatever the corporate taskmasters want. Like the energy bill. And CAFTA. And our disgraceful minimum wage and healthcare.
Frist and Santorum are just part of the marketing game for the next election.
It's meaningless.

[confludemocrat]

55. Even the zealots are edging away from a radioactively incompetent Prez

With increasingly wierd and bizarre behavior. The guy's closer to a crackup lately. They don't really like each other or have loyalty, but they are in it together for "the fun" of tearing down the country's remaining foundations of decency.

[tinrobot]

41. We complain a lot about Dems trying to be Repugs...

...and now it looks like the Repugs are trying to act more like Democrats.

Verrrrry interesting.

[stanwyck]

65. they just want to get re-elected

face it. The Republicans did a wonderful job of getting together and forming their message and taking it to middle America. It worked. They looked strong. They have ideas. (bad ideas...but ideas). They made the Democrats look scattered and whiney.
Now. They just want to hang on. They want to keep their power. The cohesive message is gone.
But it doesn't matter. As long as hate-radio demonizes the liberals and doesn't hold any conservatives accontable, many in middle America will keep swallowing whatever these guys serve up.

[formerrepuke]

5. So...? Pol Pot probably accepted evolution, also. He's still a creep.

[lebkuchen]

6. Are we to believe there IS a difference between RW fringe radicals?

I doubt it.

[aion]

96. Someone is worried about his job

I think it is safer to believe that Santorum has seen some recent polling data, and is worried for his career.

[VegasWolf]

7. One is supposed to swing to the middle only after one has won his

party's nomination. I don't believe this turd for a second.

[ovidsen]

8. Santorum is consistent

In his inconsistencies. Maybe he should consult more with his openly gay communications director, Robert Traynham.

[beyurslf]

12. Every time I hear about this guy, I don't think anything bad about

Santorum. I am thinking why the hell would an openly gay man work for the troll? What kind of self loathing asshole would do that? Queers like that don't deserve to be part of MY community.

[kliljedahl]

10. I heard that this morning on my way to work

Damn near drove off the road. Thought I had accidentally switched stations.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Judi Lynn]

11. He must believe he's got his group's undiminished support.

He'd better get ready for a backlash. He's going to learn who's really in the driver's seat here; the radical right's not as easy to manipulate as he has assumed.



Either you're with them, or you're against them.

[wurzel]

13. And the Repukes have to worry about the other PA Senator who may retire.

And would be replaced by a Democrat by Gov. Rendell.

[Endangered Specie]

15. Two words:

[Caution]

16. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. (on of my favorite aphorisms)

and completely applicable here for whatever reason santorum said this.

[YDogg]

19. You can't polish a turd.

One of my favorite sayings, which seems especially appropriate when discussing Santorum's lame attempts to moderate his image.

[eauclaireliberal]

76. I always liked

"I'd slap you, but shit splatters."

[modrepub]

85. No but

you can try and put a veneer on it!

Boss's saying for saying for trying to put the best face on a bad idea from upper management

[Ian David]

27. Not a broken clock. A stopped clock. A broken clock may never be right.

Santorum is done gone dang ol' broken, man.

[Caution]

70. doh :) yep it is a stopped clock

but the point holds. He's correct for once in his damned life. I could care less why he chooses this one time to be correct about something.

[alfredo]

17. Thsi could be a sign that the religious right is not as strong

as it was with the GOP.

Or

The GOP is losing the center because of their support of the Theocratic right.

There's some reason the GOP is running away from the Theocrats. We need to know why.

[VegasWolf]

30. Yes, first Frist and now Sanitarium, nt

[alfredo]

46. Let's see if another prominent Repub breaks with bush over

another hot button issue. It could be bush is falling on his sword to give a boost to presidential hopefuls and congressmen who are in tight races.

[marbuc]

58. I think the reason is fairly obvious

Theocrats are WAY out of the mainstream, and just plain scary.

[alfredo]

77. Are they no longer needed by the GOP?

Or has the polling data shown that they are losing more than they are gaining by sucking up to the Theocrats?

[marbuc]

82. I think it is the latter.

Polls are showing public dissatisfaction with the current establishment, and pandering to the interests of the hard right is a big reason for this.

The Radical Right has applied the full court press, and forced legislators into questionable decisions that contradict mainstream interests (Schiavo, stem cell research, gay marriage, etc., instead of "Main Street" issues like the economy, the war, education, and health insurance). The Republicans rightfully fear a push back, and therefore some are moving distancing themselves from these extreme groups.

[alfredo]

87. Could a split in the party or a third party?

Do you think the Theocratic party could form their own party, crippling the GOP if the 2008 candidate is not to their liking?

I heard rumblings back in 2004.

[marbuc]

88. Perhaps in the long run

but I think in the short term you'll see people jumping to the existing fringe parties, especially if someone like McCain or Guiliani wins the nomination.

[alfredo]

93. I think they have the numbers and organization to build

a viable third party.

[54anickel]

109. Depends on how successful the Pat Robertson gang was in taking

over the GOP. It may be the old/true Republicans that bail. Roberts plan was to take over the party by 2000 - seems he's been pretty successful. Could go either way, but I do think there will be a split - hopefully very soon.

Google pat robertson republican party - pretty interesting stuff.

How Pat Robertson and the Virginia GOP Use Each Other
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/pat_quotes/main.htm

Sen. Lautenberg blasts Robertson, calls on Frist to condemn remarks
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/lautenberg_judges_robertson_frist_503.htm

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The almost constant assaults on our federal judges by the radical right of the Republican Party has now caused one of its most prominent spokesmen to claim judges, not terrorists, are the number one threat to this country. I hope you will join me in condemning such harmful and heated language and call on Reverend Robertson to publicly apologize to every family who has lost a loved one to terrorism. Your silence on this matter would send a resounding signal to the entire country that the radical right controls the leadership of the Republican Party.


McCain assails religious right on Pat Robertson's home turf
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/28/campaign.wrap/

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"I'm a Reagan Republican who will defeat Al Gore. Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore," said McCain, who again stressed his GOP credentials on abortion, taxes and defense while continuing to preach his reform message.

Boy, was he off on that call


The Christian right and the Republican Party: the dirty secret of American politics
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/mar2000/elec-m06.shtml

The political crisis within the Republican Party has reached an extraordinary level of intensity with the speech given by Senator John McCain February 28 in Virginia Beach, Virginia. McCain's indictment of Texas Governor George W. Bush as a prisoner of right-wing bigots was more than a campaign broadside. He put his finger on the dirty secret of modern American politics—the pervasive influence of extreme-right, racist and fascistic elements in the Republican Party.

Traveling to the city which is the headquarters of the Christian Broadcasting Network and the other business and media ventures of Pat Robertson, McCain denounced Robertson and Reverend Jerry Falwell, founder of the Moral Majority, declaring that the two right-wing fundamentalist preachers were “agents of intolerance.” McCain labeled Bush a “Pat Robertson Republican” whose subservience to the ultra-right would alienate voters and produce a Republican defeat in November.

snip.

Barely 24 hours after issuing his denunciation McCain began to retreat, after he was attacked by erstwhile supporters such as Bauer and former Secretary of Education William Bennett. McCain apologized for a later comment to the press in which he sarcastically referred to Robertson and Falwell as “the forces of evil.”

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...Nonetheless, his attack on the Christian right and the ferocious response from the Republican establishment reveal political fissures within the ruling elite which have far more significance than who wins the Republican presidential nomination.

[Felix Mala]

18. He's not a comfortable with ID; how about 'young earth' theory?

Does he think the dinosaurs existed concurrently with humans? That they're actually the remains of the Goliath and the other Philistines that were put together by Godless secular sinners to dishonor God.

[Mass]

21. No he is catholic, not evangelical.

He is perfectly consistent with himself.

[Mass]

20. Santorum is catholic, not evangelical

John Paul II has endorsed evolution a few years ago. Just say this was God's plan.

[CatholicEdHead]

71. Correct, he seems to publically toe the line 100% with the

Vatican hierarchy. Evolution IS compatable according to the Cathachism. Of course, one rogue Cardnial came out not long ago questioning evolution (I think he was from Austria). I am suprised that Santorum did not take that statement and run with it.

[David Zephyr]

83. Thanks for posting this.

I was going to post this, but you have.

Neanderthal Santorum has no problem, as a Catholic, with evolutioin as some evangelicals do.

[AlCzervik]

22. He is running to the middle instead of to the right---scary.

[Shipwack]

56. Wasn't it Reagan that said...

... the way to win an election was to zig to the middle to appear moderate, than zag back to the right to reassure your base?

[gkhouston]

24. yes, and he went on to say that when evolution

is taught, they should also teach about the "holes" and "problems" with evolution. Apparently not all weasels walk on four legs.

[DebbieCDC]

25. Of course he doesn't want ID taught

It's pure creationism or nothing for "one of the best minds of the 13th Century"

[Brooklyn Michael]

26. Fuh...fuh... fuh....fuh.... fuh....

Fuh-LIP Fuh-LOP!!!

[despairing optimist]

28. NY Post headline: Witless Republican Found in Gutless Stand

It's lose/lose. Hosanna in the highest.

[hippiegranny]

29. Saints Preserve Us

This is a twilight zone news story.

[endarkenment]

31. Remember that junior isnt running for shit

So he is acting as the far-right pole, doing all the pandering to the taliban while frist and santorum and the rest of the fascist cabal who are actually running for something in 2006 are all publicly marking a distance from the looney-tune taliban nonsense coming out of junior's mouth. They are, as usual, having their cake and eating it here.

[HockeyMom]

32. I am getting very confused by all this

Are they interchanging the terms Intelligent Design and Creationism just to muddy the waters?

What Santorum (personally think he's a idiot) said makes me very suspicious.

Let me explain. I was raised a Catholic and went to Catholic school. I WAS taught Evolution in Catholic School in Science Class. This was not that God created the world in 6 days, Adam and Eve were created from nothing, bla, bla, bla. We were learned about the big bang theory, the age of the earth, lower life forms evolving, Neanderthals, etc., etc. About the only religion brought into it all was that "God created Evolution and that once God decided to give man a soul, it didn't matter what animal form he used, it was now a human being, even if it still had more chromosomes of an ape."

I hope I have been able to explain this correctly. This is why Santorum saying this troubles me, because if you leave out the part about God's role in all this, all you are really left with is true Evolution as it is being taught now. Why would he say it is fake science? From all I have read, the Fundies believe in the literal intpretation of the Bible. The Catholic Church has never had any problem with Evolution. This is a major difference between them and the Fundies.

That is why I am worried that they are cloaking the term Intelligent Design, when they really mean Creationism: the LITERAL interpretation of the BIBLE.

[stanwyck]

43. It's intentional confusion

to cast their nets very wide.
They're catching everybody in their sticky webs. They really believe nothing but the power of money.
And they know the way to keep control -- and keep power -- and get their hands on the most money, is to spread all kinds of conflicting messages so people who aren't really paying attention will think they're being represented.
They're not.
These guys only represent themselves.
This is all marketing. It's intentional and coordinated.

[marbuc]

64. the Intelligent Design "theory" is designed

to cast doubt on evolution, nothing more. Literally, all it offers is the belief that cells/organisms are too complex to be created "randomly." It offers no basis for this assumption, or alternative theory. I don't kbow why the theocrats want it taught, there is really nothing to teach.

[NYC]

84. Tell me the difference, please.

I thought Intelligent Design was Creationism. Thanks in advance.

[marbuc]

91. The difference is Creationism is a creation story

while Intelligent Design is merely a criticism of evolution. IDers mischaracterize evolution as a series of random mutations, and they believe organisms are too complex and efficient for this to be true. They have their lengthy explanations I'm sure, but that is pretty much it. As I said previously, it's primary function is to cause doubt of evolution, possibly opening debate for alternative ideas.

[NYC]

94. Thanks.

:hi:

[VegasWolf]

33. Sanitarium stills feels comfortable with the Hollow Earth Theory though.

[Plaid Adder]

34. Oh my God, Cuckoobananas is now officially crazier than Rick

"Man On Dog" Santorum!

Wow. I'm scared.

:scared:

The Plaid Adder

[Jacobin]

36. Now, that is an especially frightening thought!!

:hide:

[Initech]

38. Is that one of the signs of the apocalypse?

I mean finally (in)San(e)torum shows he has SOME brains.

[YankeyMCC]

44. F! Him!

Signed a native of the Boston area.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

49. LIAR! LIAR! Read Ricky's history on the Un-science issue

From National Center for Science Education

http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/ID-activists-guide-v1.pdf

In proposing the amendment, Senator Santorum cited a law review article coauthored by "intelligent design" proponent David K DeWolf, professor of law at Gonzaga University and Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute's Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture. And the godfather of the "intelligent design" movement, Phillip Johnson, was quoted in the June 18 Washington Times as having "helped frame the language" of the amendment.

On June 13, 2001, the US Senate adopted a Sense of the Senate amendment to the Elementary and Secondary Education Act Authorization bill, S 1, then under consideration. Proposed by Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), the amendment read:

It is the sense of the Senate that (1) good science education should prepare students to distinguish the data or testable theories of science from philosophical or religious claims that are made in the name of science; and (2) where biological evolution is taught, the curriculum should help students to understand why the subject generates so much continuing controversy, and should prepare the
students to be informed participants in public discussions regarding the subject.


The Santorum Language does not Appear in the Final Version of the Education Bill Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, writing in the March 14, 2002 issue of the Washington Times, claimed that his language was a "provision" of the bill:

At the beginning of the year, President Bush signed into law the "No Child Left Behind" bill. The new law includes a science education provision where Congress states that "where topics are taught that may generate controversy (such as biological evolution), the curriculum should help students to understand the full
range of scientific views that exist." If the Education Board of Ohio does not include intelligent design in the new teaching standards, many students will be denied a first-rate science education.


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Hypocrite and liar all rolled into one wingnut package. Get out of PA.


:banghead:

[EST]

67. You left out sneaky 'shit out' of the package

[kbm8795]

107. This sounds just like Ricky

And I do so love it whenever a wingnut assumes that something becomes "controversial" just because they've had a new cultural war wet dream.

[FrankieWVU]

50. Catholic Schools

I am Catholic (lapsed) and although I went to public school, I have student taught in Catholic schools and know for a fact that they teach evolution and not even mention ID in class. Also even the Pope said evolution is true... I don't think there are any major religions that argue against evolution. It's these right wing wackos, otherwise known as Southern Baptists

[Im_Your_Huckleberry]

51. a wolf in sheeps clothing.

[displacedtexan]

52. Mr. "pursuit of happiness" hurts America?

I suspect that Repukes are trying to stage a "we're a big tent after all" crapfestpalooza ahead of the 2006 election.

See, folks? There's room in the Repuke Party for all kinds of Kool Aid drinkers!

[confludemocrat]

53. Some of these Repubs are only 90% crazy, Bush& Cheney-100% screwy

Frist w. stem cell thing shows he's only 90 fucked up, but the champeens of insanity are these two turds.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. Moderating like a maniac: Santorum must be scared

Pennsylvania: getting bluer by the minute?

[Kalish]

57. Well he is Catholic

The Catholic church has made a relative peace with Darwin and evolution. This is in stark contrast to fundies of the James Dobson stripe.

And then of course, Santorum has a tough election fight ahead of him, he no doubt wants to appear moderate on some issues.

[meow2u3]

73. Santorum thinks Pennsylvanians were born yesterday

and they're not onto his phony centrist crap. SORRY, RICKY! We know you're insane--and we weren't born yesterday!

[deadparrot]

59. Dance, puppets, dance!

[Gelliebeans]

60. hmmm.......

me thinks the word "polls" entered into the fray.

[progressoid]

63. Whaaaaat the fuuuu...

I must be living in bizzaro world

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

66. He's lying...see post #49 for the TRUE Ricky

He's just pretending to be reasonable since his wingnut ways have led to piss-poor poll numbers here in PA for the 06 election.

It's a moderate veneer on a wingnut body.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

68. triangulation

one republican takes this position, one takes that postition. perhaps they even switch positions at some point, what does it really matter they're just positions. it gives the right the illusion of debate - and a mirage of depth and complexity. hell, it makes both look more steadfast in a debate of their own making. perfectly framed. in the end, everybody gets their tax cut.

ya didn't think it was about God or Science did you, only blue-collar republicans believe that!

[0007]

69. Santorum's cup runneth over

[goforit]

72. Ooooo......this is a big issue Santorum (sarc), try threIraq war next.

[DuaneBidoux]

74. Both sides? What does that mean exactly? Science vs. myth? Is that what

both sides means? I don't understand.

[Raiden]

75. He DISAGREED with Bush???

WTF is up?!

[VegasWolf]

78. These Repukes are supposed to be in control. They act like Keystone

Cops!

[barb162]

79. monkeyboy v. monkeyboy, both directly descended from monkeys

[hyphenate]

80. Rick Santorum is an asshole

who actually doesn't know the difference between his own asshole and his mouth. All he's doing is spewing shit from both holes for a very long time. I really, really hope that someone is taking all of the many things he has been saying and is compiling them into one giant "anti-Santorum" campaign if the asshole DOES decide to run for president.

Hey--great idea for the fucking radical right: Run Santorum with Alan Keyes--they'd be a GREAT match together!!!! :sarcasm:

[jamesinca]

99. That will never happen

The repugs will never run a minority candidate, this is a male WASP country in their mind and it would kill the "southern strategy" if they did it. But they would gladly run somebody like Bull Connor and his fire hoses. You remember that inclusive guy that hung out with Negroes in the south during those turbulent times. They will embrace Strom Thurman and say he was very supportive of minorities, he had babies with them as proof. Strom Thurman loved Negroes so much he thought everybody should have one. They will never truly get behind a minority candidate, but they will support Strom and Bull and call it an all inclusive party.

[Cha]

81. Yeah, well bush can't help it..

[DemBones DemBones]

86. Apparently Santorum paid attention in Catholic school

and learned about evolution and natural selection.

Bush wasn't homeschooled by creationists, either, so he should know better, but perhaps he wasn't paying attention in science class. Or English class. Definitely not speech class.

[chookie]

89. He pretends to be sane election time

I predicted this, that Santorum was going to miraculously lean leftwards as elections loomed in his future. He knows he cannot be elected unless he can temporarily hide the fact that he's crazier than a shithouse rat. He discovers all sorts of reasonable things to say around election time. He's managed to fool stupid people in Pennsylvania twice now through this tactic, so why not this time?

[deadparrot]

90. A PROVEN FLIP FLOP!

Read it and weep, bitch.

"Therefore, intelligent design is a legitimate scientific theory that should be taught in science classes."

http://www.arn.org/docs/ohio/washtimes_santorum031402.htm

[Count Popeula]

98. Thank you for that.

It was good fodder to base a letter to the editor of my local (PA) newspaper on. Contrasting the two statements, they're nearly exactly the same, only on the exact opposite side of the issue.

And only 2 years apart. Hell, Bush called Kerry a flip-flopper for statements that were 25 years apart about abortion. Could anything other than public opinion have motivated Santorum's flip-floppery?

[melnjones]

97. But the funniest part is this...

---Bush's science adviser, John Marburger, was quoted in The New York Times this week as saying intelligent design was not a scientific concept, and that Bush's remarks should be interpreted to mean he thinks the concept should be taught as part of the "social context" in science classes.---

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050804/pl_nm/politics_evolution_dc

Bush's remarks should be interpreted to mean...hee hee.

[truthisfreedom]

100. *taps on the glass* excuse me people! ahem! what does bush know about

"intelligent" anything???

[4_TN_TITANS]

103. Oh... this is rich

Can you say "flip-flopper" backlash on the Repubs? You better believe we won't let Frist forget about his mega flop on stem cells here in TN.

As if we wouldn't notice these assholes doing complete 180's with elections around the corner :eyes:

[freedomfries]

104. KICK

[liberalcanuck]

108. Methinks this asshole is trying to differentiate himself somewhat

from * like Frist did with the stem cell research. 2008 has some real repuke winners vying for nomination.

[dajoki]

110. FLIP-FLOPPER!!

everyone knows he's a bible thumping right wing fanatic. who's he trying to fool?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

111. Anybody else find it humorously ironic

that two simians are debating evolution? Me, I think it's damned funny.

[Megahurtz]

112. Santorum is another Radical Repuke Idiot.

Oh God, please don't tell me that this asshole is going to run for President in 2008.:puke: