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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:52 AM
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Approval of Bush's Handling of Iraq Drops
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 01:53 AM by Bush_Eats_Beef
pproval of Bush's Handling of Iraq Drops

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Americans' approval of President Bush's handling of
Iraq is at its lowest level yet, according to an AP-Ipsos poll that also found fewer than half now think he's honest.

A solid majority still see Bush as a strong and likable leader, though the president's confidence is seen as arrogance by a growing number.

Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq, which had been hovering in the low- to mid-40s most of the year, dipped to 38 percent. Midwesterners and young women and men with a high school education or less were most likely to abandon Bush on his handling of Iraq in the last six months.

American troops have suffered heavy casualties in Iraq in recent days. On Wednesday, 14 Marines were killed in the Euphrates River valley in the worst roadside bombing targeting Americans since the war began in March 2003. William Anderson, a retired Republican from Fort Worth, Texas, said Bush "has the right intentions, but he's going about them the wrong way."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050805/ap_on_el_pr/bush_ap_ipsos_poll

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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:02 AM
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1. Yup, Americans just love the way Bush is ruling the world.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:03 AM
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2. Hitler and Trotsky were "strong and likeable" leaders, too.
:eyes:
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:10 AM
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4. Trotsky?!? Lenin I'm with you, Stalin was a demon from hell, but Trotsky?
He was a Marxist communist, no where near the level of evil embodied by Hilter and Stalin.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:19 AM
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7. Of course not to the levels of Hitler and Stalin...
but he had his own streaks of violence and terror.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:29 AM
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8. I agree, but even Trotsky doesn't compare to Hitler, Stalin, or Bush.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:42 AM
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10. Hitler and Stalin have always been at the very top of my list,
and Bush is rapidly making his way up there. No contest there. I was just trying to illustrate that "strong and likeable" doesn't mean he/she is a good person or leader. :)
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:10 AM
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3. let's just take a peek at those numbers...
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 02:10 AM by truthisfreedom
Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq, which had been hovering in the low- to mid-40s most of the year, dipped to 38 percent. Midwesterners and young women and men with a high school education or less were most likely to abandon Bush on his handling of Iraq in the last six months.

<snip>

Bush's overall job approval was at 42 percent, with 55 percent disapproving.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:11 AM
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5. This quote sums it up:
"This country is a monarchy," said Charles Nuutinen, a 62-year-old independent from Greenville, Wis. "He's turning this country into Saudi Arabia. He does what he wants. He doesn't care what the people want."

His first term, he and his cabal at least tried to pretend this wasn't the case.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:15 AM
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6. this is big stuff approval down to 38%..well yeah!
this is a great stuff too.
But the portion of people who view his confidence as arrogance has increased from 49 percent in January to 56 percent now.

"This country is a monarchy," said Charles Nuutinen, a 62-year-old independent from Greenville, Wis. "He's turning this country into Saudi Arabia. He does what he wants. He doesn't care what the people want."

Six in 10 said they think the country is headed down the wrong track, despite some encouraging economic news in recent weeks.

Be sure and rate this up!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:34 AM
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9. nice lipless wonder pic there
gawd gwb is one ugly SOB
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:45 AM
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11. Bush is a MONSTER, an arrogant SOB...
he's another Saddam, just a little more subtle, on a f--king delusional power trip. He feels nothing for anyone. He has not attended even one funeral! All the suffering he has caused, dead and maimed Americans, innocent Iraqis, and anyone unlucky enough to get in Bush's way, all for oil. We know that! If he was concerned about suffering, we would be sending food to Darfur and Niger. I have never been so ashamed of an American as I am of Bush in my entire life. And the Republican politicians support this madman. Party loyalty ranks above integrity, honesty, and compassion. All from a coward who had help from daddy so he didn't have to into combat and then skipped out on what little he had agreed to do. He is a stupid lying punk whose word is less than nothing. When will they wake up?
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:52 AM
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12. The 38% approving: Jeb Bush, Bo & Luke Duke, Ted Nugent, Bush's mommy
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 04:41 AM
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13. To dumb Murikins: "We Told You So!"
A little late now.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:05 AM
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14. another snippet from the article:
But the portion of people who view his confidence as arrogance has increased from 49 percent in January to 56 percent now.

but...bush* doesn't pay attention to polls. IMHO - polls are an informal "up or down" vote -- so when bush* says he doesn't pay attention to polls he's ignoring the will of the people, flipping us all the bird and saying "who cares what you think"

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:16 AM
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15. At this rate, there is no way he is going to get reelected!
Seriously, though, this man's court and ambassadorial appointments should be an issue based on his treacherous handling of the war in Iraq.
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PDX Bara Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:13 AM
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32. Re-"election"
Unless the law changes, this evil protoplasm cannot be "re-elected" unless he does succeed in turning his squat at the White House in to an official dictatorship (his comment December 2000). Does Daddy buying him the presidency really count as an election or re-election?
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:35 AM
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35. It's the best democracy money can buy
Finally saw that last night.It's a wonder I ever fell asleep.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:27 AM
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16. What the hell took t hem so long to wake up?
Meanwhile, those of us who were intelligent and had the foresight to see this train wreck coming have to live with the consequences also. The stupid Bush voters should be the ones who are made to suffer and not all of us who knew he was an abysmal failure from day one. Everything he's ever been handed (and make no mistake - he's been handed everything he ever got - he never worked for anything - still doesn't) has been a colossal failure.

I, too, am embarrassed that this idiot and coward and traitor is an American. I hope the rest of the world knows that plenty of us hate him too. Just don't hold it against all of us.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:30 AM
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17. If the Media didn't have its lips GLUED to his ass,
can you imagine what his ratings would be?

:hurts:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:34 AM
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18. men with a high school education or LESS were most likely to abandon Bush
A very revealing statement about his supporters. Not too bright, eh?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:19 AM
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21. Probably says more about
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 06:25 AM by Jim4Wes
their income level than their intelligence. they might not have had the money for higher education, and they most likely make less money now without a degree.

*edit for clarity
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:28 AM
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22. Actually, it may have something to do
with their likelihood to become cannon fodder. Apparently, the men most likely to end up in this war (lower income, less educated) still have their BS detectors running.

mikey_the_rat
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 07:46 AM
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27. I think you forgot a "not"
they were more likely NOT to abandon bush.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:16 AM
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33. That's not the way I read it...
...Midwesterners and young women and men with a high school education or less were most likely to abandon Bush on his handling of Iraq in the last six months. (bold and italics mine)

Perhaps AP left out a "not" -- or maybe the implication here was that these groups previously supported the Lyin' Asshole but now are beginning to see the light (for either altruistic or self-preservational reasons).

Either way, if Jerkface's numbers continue to drop, watch for some really fancy dance moves in Washington as our "leaders" attempt to distance themselves from the Slacker-in-Chief and his Wild-Hair-Up-His-Ass policies.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:34 AM
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34. you're right: I'm wrong...
*I* misread it the first time through, although I think my misreading SHOULD be the case.
sorry for the confusion.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:46 AM
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19. I'm confused
"A solid majority still see Bush as a strong and likable leader, though the president's confidence is seen as arrogance by a growing number."

Then:

"Bush's overall job approval was at 42 percent, with 55 percent disapproving. "

"The portion of people who consider Bush honest has dropped slightly from January, when 53 percent described him that way while 45 percent did not. Now, people are just about evenly split on that issue — with 48 percent saying he's honest and 50 percent saying he's not."

"But the portion of people who view his confidence as arrogance has increased from 49 percent in January to 56 percent now."

"Six in 10 said they think the country is headed down the wrong track, despite some encouraging economic news in recent weeks."



Where is the "solid majority" numbers? His job approval is down, the majority thinks he is dishonest, most people think he is arrogant and 60% interviewed said the country is heading down the wrong track. Am I missing something?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:43 AM
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24. The Yahoo board of directors must have their requirements...
Corporate Sold Media (CSM) typical propaganda. And if not, then maybe Mr. Lester himself thinks every rating over 25% represents a majority (about 25% of all US eligible voters chose ** and his Iran/Contra & PNAC gangsters to rule), so every rating above 35% must be a "solid majority" for him.

Just trying to help clarifying the confusion (not an easy task). :freak:
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:13 AM
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20. A couple of very ominious words in this article for Pugs
"fewer than half now think he's honest."

Uh oh that word honest poor wittle Georgie is gonna cry.

"the president's confidence is seen as arrogance by a growing number."

Arrogance...well fuck me running finally the smirking and leaning over the podium like we are children is finally being noticed after 5+ years.

"Midwesterners and young women and men with a high school education or less were most likely to abandon Bush on his handling of Iraq in the last six months."

Midwesterners holy shit this is their base isn't it? I thought he was all down homey and aww shucks to a degree these ppl follow him to their deaths like lemmings? The men and women with HS diplomas is easy to answer...they are being asked to go and sure as fuck aren't gonna die willingly for his BS anymore.

Beginning of the end folks this is it for him. But can the Dem party grow nuts and take advantage of this for once or are they in bed with the corporations to a degree we don't know about and either tank enough on purpose to lose or be corporate lovers as much as BushCo? Give me Clark or someone else from the outside of the party.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:54 AM
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36. No, "Midwesterners" are NOT his base

Most Midwestern states went for Gore and Kerry.

However, of those recently waking up since January, yes, I'm sure there were many Midwesterners. I figure Bush is being stripped down to his most fanatical base of followers... Christo-fascists (not to imply all religious folk), racists, and the ultra-greedy.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:34 AM
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23. Strong & Likable VS. Arrogant & Stupid.
Hmmmm, which will win?

I think history will choose the right ones.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 07:00 AM
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25. Hate to say it...
... but something bad's gonna happen in the fall. Dunno what, but it won't be pretty.

His numbers haven't stinked this bad since around summer, 2001. They were headed for the toilet then.

And sewer rats that he and his bunch are, they think they have to work on his "legacy."
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 07:49 AM
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28. Unfortunately, I think they are going to "pearl Harbor" one of our
own cities...probably in the carolinas.

the attacks in London proved not enough of an incentive to justify attacking Iran.

I think the more they get pushed into a corner, the more desperate and dangerous they become.

I think they will MIHOP a moderate sized city, and then blame Iran.

:scared: :nuke:
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Stevious Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 07:39 AM
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26. List of Journalists Who've Died in Iraq
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Stevious Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 07:53 AM
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29. U.S. Launches Attacks in Western Iraq
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:31 AM
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30. Kick & Nominated
:kick:
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:54 AM
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31. morons!
Who are those morons who still think Shrub is a strong and likeable leader. What is there to like about this idiot and what do they mean by he is a strong leader.some people!!!
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