Details on the 200,000 new jobs

[serryjw]

Any info on the industries..Is McD's hiring again?

[napi21]

1. I saw on CNN that the majority of those jobs were in the retail and

service sector. The only sector that has lost jobs is mfg. They have been loosing jobs since Shrub appeared in DC.

I can't recall which show I saw that on. I think it was Lou Dobbs.

[kestrel91316]

3. Retail and service sector, huh?

Like working for Walmart for minimum wage, or a janitorial company that independently contracts work and then hires immigrants at minimum wage.

GREAT jobs to build the new economy!! They can all buy $500,000 homes and send the kids to Stanford on THAT.

Bush is great. War is Peace. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

[Joebert]

2. Nope.

As I'm sure you've read, they're actually piloting a project to have a call center in India take the drive-up orders.

You drive to window 1, call center takes order, sends it to the store's queue, you drive to window 2, and somebody handles the money.

Nice, eh?

[SoCalDem]

5. Would you be liking curry-fries with that?

:)

[Joebert]

6. I know you're just playing.

But there are a lot of people that I work with that are resentful of Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese.

As if they're supposed to say, "No, thanks, we don't need the money. Keep the jobs in your own darn country."

Outsourcing, and the War on Iraq are really fostering some seriously bad feelings for people all over the world.

And in almost all cases, it's not their fault.

[SoCalDem]

11. Yep.. I was joking..

I think it's a deeper problem.. Other countries ..emerging nations..are educating their people, and it's only natural for them to seek jobs..Unfortunately we have a "perfect storm" happening..We have greedy bastards who would sell out their grandma if they could have a better "bottom line"...AND it's at the same moment when millions of people are educated and able (via the internet) to actually compete for the same jobs that were once "ours" alone..

I saw a documentary about a grade school in Thailand.. EVERY CHILD had his/her own laptop.. THIRD GRADERS.. They spoke fluent english and in a few years they will be ready to compete for any job that can be outsourced..

OUR schools , on the other hand, are only worried about how many BOOKS they can do without if they get kids to "share"...or how much they can save if they eliminate subjects..

Until we plan for a 21st century world, and invite all our citizens to participate, we will lose..

[Joebert]

15. Bingo

(insert whiny voice here)
But that would make my taxes higher.

We're screwed for the long term at this point.

Our kids can hardly speak fluent English.

[gaia_gardener]

7. I saw this coming in October

there were reports of a call center in CO, I said "it won't be long before it is India". My repub FIL insisted I was wrong and even if I wasn't, it wouldn't be a big deal. "After all, you're doing fine, right?"

[getmeouttahere]

21. "After all, you're doing fine"

great...these people could'nt see beyond their front yard if someone rubbed their nose in it!

[skids]

12. As if the crummy loudspeaker wasn't enough of a language barrier... n/t

[benny05]

20. Colorado Springs is a call center for the Golden Starches

If I read Tom Friedman's book, the World is Flat, correctly.

[bufffbison]

4. some idea here.

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784279192

"The 207,000 increase in payroll jobs last month - the most since April - reflected hiring across a range of industries. Retailing, health care, financial activities and construction all expanded employment. But factories shed jobs for the second month in a row."

for some reason, i am skepitcal about these numbers. i recall just a short couple weeks ago, saying the number of unemployment has risen to higher record in recent months, on top of additional layoffs from some major industrial and financial insitituions. which leads me to believe these jobs created are either from mcdonalds, or inflated.

[leftofthedial]

8. Lies Lies Lies

Unemployment (the actual number of people who can't find jobs) is at 25%.

A further 25% are now grossly underemployed.

We are in a depression softened only be a massive propaganda and PR campaign.

You people better quit whining and start looking for that third and fourth part-time minimum-wage job.

[fearnobush]

13. Yes lies, but I know folks arent buyin' it. No big raises being given

, few folks leaving the mine these days. Yet the scriptors at DofL love to paint the bogus rosy picture of a grand and strong economy yet we are getting the life sucked out of us with Mr. murder (Bushler) blood sucking, kill America and his demonic group of satan warshippers, the GOP with their $62.45 per barrel of crude and your $2.65 per gallon of pain. Or that 20 co-pay that two years ago was 10, or that medicaid paid prescription that your grand mother in Tennassee just got cut and now you have to pay it to keep her alive. Yes, Oh what a great economy this is. Thank you people of great greed, the people that bring us Satan in a Jesus suit, those people, the GOP. Just wait till their run away inflation hits this spring and see Mr. lizard of death (Greenspan) crawl back in to the toxic sludge he came out of way way back in the 1980's. Then we will really know what pain is, then we will remember what the great communicator gave us in the early 1980's, double diget un-employment, double digit interest rates, double digit inflation. Government Cheese that was rotten and ooh yes, he did free us from those evil air traffic controllers :sarcasm: and his Union Busting with a smile.

[wli]

17. interesting, got anything I can cite for that?

[UpInArms]

9. here's an article

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B3837FE34%2D2283%2D4C2C%2D827A%2D9150E310789B%7D&siteid=mktw

excerpt:

A survey of some 400,000 business establishments showed private payrolls increased by 181,000. Government added 26,000 jobs, including 18,000 in local schools, which is likely the result of faulty seasonal adjustments.

Jobs in manufacturing industries fell by 4,000, although a majority of manufacturing industries were hiring in July, the first time that's been true in a year.

Construction jobs increased by 4,000.

Service-producing jobs rose by 203,000, including 50,000 in retail, the most in more than five years.

Leisure and hospitality industries added 33,000 jobs, as did professional and business services. Temporary jobs fell by 2,000.

Education and health care added 21,000 jobs.

...more at link...

[bufffbison]

10. additional links for more info

michigan's unemployment rate, 6.8%
http://www.detnews.com/2005/careers/0508/05/A01-255121.htm

a local county in tennessee unemployment rate, a staggering 7% and over 8% in some parts of the state!
http://hawkins.xtn.net/index.php?template=news.view.subscriber&table=news&newsid=123270

north carolina, unemployment increased by .5%, now up to 7.5% in some parts of the state!
http://www.morganton.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MNH/MGArticle/MNH_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784259717&path=!news


a little article about unemployment on the rise...

http://money.guardian.co.uk/work/story/0,1456,1543484,00.html
Young pay the price as job hopes plummet

Although the economy is weakening no one is pressing the panic button about widespread unemployment - yet one section of the workforce has been hit hard. Colin Cottell reports

Saturday August 6, 2005
The Guardian

With more than 28m people in work, and unemployment less than 5%, the great majority of us seem unlikely to be asking for directions to our local jobcentre any time soon.
But delve a little deeper into the latest figures, released last month, and you begin to unearth a less benign picture. Youth unemployment, which most thought had been eradicated for good, is showing signs of life. Brendan Barber, TUC general secretary says: "The slight weakening in employment performance seems to be hitting young people first. Other groups are mainly unaffected."

According to the Office of National Statistics, in the 12 months up to the end of June, the number of 18- to 24-year-olds claiming jobseeker's allowance rose by 9.4%. This compares with a 1.6% rise across the workforce as a whole. Figures from the labour force survey show that the number of 18- to 24-year-olds unemployed at the end of May 2005 was 35,000 higher than 12 months earlier. At 11.1%, this is more than twice the rate for the workforce as a whole, and three times the rate for 25- to 49-year-olds

[cliss]

14. What's the real truth?

Here's how we can tell if they're fibbing: go to the unemployment office. Take a look around. Here in Portland, it's quite packed. Next, take a peek at a homeless shelter. They're full here.

Look at the people wandering around downtown, carrying big garbage bags, full of pop cans, and homeless people, pushing their shopping carts around.

Check out the local Goodwill store. Here in Portland, the stores are packed. People are practically arguing over the stuff.

Next, take a trip to Saks Fifth Avenue. Look crowded? Not the one downtown. The Nordstrom store looks pretty empty to me. Where is everybody? Looks like they're all down in the homeless district.

Elaine Chao is the Secretary of Labor. She's also a big Bush supporter (I think he appointed her). She's told lots of fibs about the employment picture.

[ObaMania]

18. If Mitch McConnel's wife is "fibbing" then why isn't someone calling her..

.. on it?

If that is true, then this is yet another fraud being executed against the 'murican people by the * cabal.

[OneBlueSky]

16. no doubt a lot of temporary summer jobs were included . . .

in the tally . . . park workers, lawn and garden workers, lifeguards, concession employees, etc . . .

[TahitiNut]

19. There were 88,000 FEWER people employed in the private sector in July

... than in June. (There were 113,018,000 people employed in June and 112,930,000 people employed in July in the private sector. Those are still 'preliminary' numbers.)

Those "200,000 jobs" were 'Seasonally Adjusted' jobs ... a statistical method used to eliminate the month-to-month variances in employment caused by (so-called) 'seasonal jobs' like teachers, construction, camp counselors, etc.

Now, here's part of the "rub": Almost none of the jobs in the manufacturing sector are 'seasonal' - but jobs in retail and service are 'seasonal.' Since the share of jobs in the retail and service sectors are growing and the manufacturing jobs are shrinking, the statistical model is being preemptively "tweaked" to make things look shiney and nice.

Here's another interesting fact: The year-over-year number of people employed during the Bush/Cheney maladministration HAS NEVER been equal to or above the average increase in jobs as calculated over the past 50 years! This is the LONGEST and DEEPEST prolonged shrinkage (NEVER above average) in employment in the past 65 years!

This will help show that last factoid ....

[Miss Chybil]

22. Is this LBN? I think you posted in the wrong forum. nt

[jarab]

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