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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:06 PM
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Falwell's 'Vote Christian' Criticized
Falwell's 'Vote Christian' Criticized
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<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050810/ap_on_re_us/falwell_statement>

A Jewish organization is calling on the Rev. Jerry Falwell to retract a "vote Christian in 2008" statement made months ago in a letter raising money for his ministries.

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Falwell, founder of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., and Moral Majority, included with his mass fund-raising letter for Falwell Ministries a sticker that reads, "I Vote Christian."

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"Understanding the danger of combining religion and politics, our founding fathers wisely created a political system based on individual merit and religious inclusiveness," Foxman said.

Falwell told The News & Advance of Lynchburg Tuesday that his statement was misunderstood.

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Poor jerry. So misunderstood. All he meant was vote like I say or fuck off, die and burn in hell. That's all.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:09 PM
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1. Didn't he mean, Vote Moonie?
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:11 PM
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2. No, it was actually, "Vote Mammon!"
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 08:36 PM
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19. No, it was Vote Moonie.
"One such Church leader and internationally recognized evangelical Christian, Jerry Falwell, readily admits that he accepted 2.5 million dollars from Moon in 1994 in order to bail out his Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. This was funneled through a Moon organization known as the 'Womens Federation for World Peace' which has been chaired by Beverly LaHaye, Wife of Timothy LaHaye, who is the popular co-author of the "Left Behind" Christian fictional book series and a well known evangelical Christian. The Womens Federation for World Peace paid 3.5 million to the Christian Heritage Foundation, which in turn bought Falwell's $73 million debt, and then frankly wrote it off. The Heritage Foundation then seems to have paid themselves a fee of one million dollars for their trouble.

Since that time Falwell has spoken at many of Moons functions, embracing the cult-leader with unabashed reverence and friendship. Even writings from Moons' Church confirm Falwells comradeship with 'the new messiah' and his cult. Moon has even been a guest speaker in mainline denominational Churches in the past few years. Falwell further praised Rev. Moon calling him, "An unsung hero to the cause of freedom, who is to be commended for his determination and courage and endurance in support of his beliefs."<2>

According to official court records of a lawsuit that was filed in Bedford County Circuit Court (West Virginia), it was alleged that Falwell and an associate flew to South Korea, January 9, 1994 to meet with Unification Church officials. This trip came shortly before Falwell was awarded the Moon money. Falwell stated openly, "If the American Atheists Society or Saddam Hussein himself ever sent an unrestricted gift to any of my ministries, be assured I will operate on Billy Sunday's philosophy: The Devil's had it long enough, and quickly cash the check."<1>

Falwell is not the only evangelical reported to have accepted money from Rev. Moon. Other notable speakers for Moon's organizations and affairs receiving as much as $80,000 to $150,000 have included Ralph Reed, Beverly LaHaye, Gary Bauer, and Robert Schuller, well known for his "Crystal Cathedral" in Southern California and "Hour of Power" 'positive-thinking' television ministry."

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:19 PM
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3. Great tactic, Falwell! Try it yourself! Say, "Bush is a fascist!"
Repub: "Take that back!"
You: "You have misunderstood what I said." (Then walk away.)
See, Mr. Durbin? It's easy and fun!
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:22 PM
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4. Falwell is a lot of things
BUT A TRUE CHRISTIAN HE IS NOT!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:34 PM
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5. Bush is a Christian?
He's peace seeking, loving and forgiving, and cares for the poor and the needy? He believes in the Golden Rule over the preemptive strike policy?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:41 PM
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6. Very well, then.
Now all I need is to get Jim Wallis to tell me exactly how to vote Christian.. :evilgrin:
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:44 AM
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18. cross yourself before putting your ballot in the optical scanner
then kiss your democracy goodbye

KL
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:43 PM
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7. The Church of Scientology has a "Vote Thetan in 2008" campaign! nt
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:55 PM
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8. So let's make a huge bumper sticker and have all religions
represented on it. This man acts like Christians are the only ones with "values".




"What I was saying was for conservative Christian voters to vote their values, which are pro-life and pro-family," Falwell said. "I had no intention of being anti-Jewish at all."


Then why didn't he say Vote Your Values!!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:03 PM
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9. Falwell Couldn't Hold A Candle of Morals/Values to Cindy Sheehan
Hypocrisy is "his" middle name. He wouldn't know true values, morals and "ETHICS," much less sincere and true love for his fellow human beings if it smacked him in his fake-a$$!
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:19 PM
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10. Yeh, like Jesus would really vote for Dubya
"Blessed are the meek"...

yeah, that describes Georgie..

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:26 PM
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11. Rael, leader of the Raelians, says "Vote Raelian and Human Cloning 2008!"
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:55 PM
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12. So why is the history & purpose of the ADL necessary for the story...
but similar info info isn't provided for Falwell's sham organizations?
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:10 PM
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13. Someone should remind them
Christian is not a political party.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:14 PM
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14. And funnily enough, if he changes
his statement to "vote Judaeo-Christian", everyone is supposed to be happy :eyes:
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:26 PM
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15. Don't settle for the lesser evil! Vote Cthulhu in 2008!
Hmm, why not try reopening the investigation into the assassination attempt on Larry Flynt?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:54 PM
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16. What a Fucking Freak!
So he thinks that Bush and himself are so "Holier Than Thou" that he can peddle this trash to the public?

POSER!!!:argh:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:43 AM
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17. Jesus rode a donkey so should you in 2008
that's my bumper sticker. Or Fawell can kiss my ass. I am a christian that's why am a democrat. :kick:
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