Bob Woodward Predicts a Cheney vs. Hillary Race in 2008

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Bob Woodward Predicts a Cheney vs. Hillary Race in 2008

By E&P Staff

NEW YORK If Bob Woodward is right, it will be The Old Man and the She in the 2008 showdown for the White House. Speaking in Colorado last night, the Washington Post journalist predicted that Vice President Dick Cheney and former First Lady Hillary Clinton would face off in the next election for president.

Speaking as part of the Aspen Institute's McCloskey Speaker Series, Woodward explained why it is "highly likely" President Bush might implore Cheney to seek the Oval Office.

"He would be 67 if he ran and was elected," Woodward said, according to a Denver Post account. "Reagan was 69. Republicans always like the old warhorse….both parties like to nominate vice presidents. ... Cheney would do it, and I think it's highly likely, so stay tuned."

Otherwise, Woodward talked mostly about two elected presidents, Nixon and Bush. He called the Nixon tapes "the gift that just keeps on giving" and said history would judge Bush's decision to go to war, and it's still unclear what it will say.

[meganmonkey]

1. oooh, gross

I hope not.

:(

[tk2kewl]

2. Woodward is a moron

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. isn't he infamous for getting everyone of his predictions wrong?

2004, 2000, each time, every race he talked about?

[leftchick]

45. he can kiss my ass

he has been wrong on everything since he CO-wrote a book in the 70s.

[Kikosexy2]

3. Bring him on...

we'll tear up that old snarly scum-bag to shreds!! Haliburton, Haliburton! Haliburton!=Corruption, Corruption, Corruption!

[LSparkle]

5. Woodward's floating a trial balloon for DarthCheney

Hopefully it'll be shot down soon enough ... That empty shell of a man has NO business even THINKING about running ... UNLESS the Cabal REALLY believes they've successfully rigged elections for all time.

[BrklynLiberal]

6. He is saying that to make anything else sound good by comparison.

[triguy46]

7. Lowering expectations...

for any real hope :(

[livvy]

8. He can't possibly run.

He'd have to come out of his super triple secret undisclosed location for the debates.

[d_b]

9. I hope he's right about Cheney

Though I'd prefer to see him lose to Feingold, Edwards, Kerry, Or Clark.

[K-W]

10. Nothing would unite the democratic party faster. EOM

[AlGore-08.com]

11. The problem is not going to be uniting the party

It's going to be winning the swing voters and peeling off enough red staters for an electoral victory. HRC can't do that, even against Cheney.

[Fovea]

66. I think running the poster boy for Halliburton's

no-bid rip off kings would be a great idea for the Republican party and I am all for it.

Even Hilary could beat him.
Hell, Joementum could beat him.
Jacko could beat him, Joe Isuzu could beat him.

Bob Barr could run as a Socialist Worker's Party candidate and beat him.

[Kelvin Mace]

23. I don't know...

The Vichy Dems love Bush so much they may nominate no one to give Cheney a clear win.

[fooj]

12. Screw Woodward.

:grr:

[MGKrebs]

13. No! No! Anyone but Cheney! We can't beat him!

(heehee. That was for lurking freeps who won't click on the post and will only see the subject line.)
:applause:

[fishwax]

49. It's definitely cause for concern. I'm sure you're right.

(Right on both counts. Good one MGKrebs :rofl:)

[JackieO]

14. barfola

:puke:

[FourStarDemocrat]

15. This is not the first time Woodwar has said this..

I heard him say during a tv interview a few months ago something to the effect of watch out-"Cheney just may be the dark horse candidate in 2008". Who knows, maybe he knows his powerhungry buddy well enough not to rule that out.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

48. Dark? Ebony is more like it. Black as my soul and my coffee.

horse? Horse's ass is more like it.
The man is a thief. A scoundrel. A fraud. A liar.

And those are his good points.

[The Night Owl]

16. Woodward is an idiot, but he is right about Cheney 2008.

Mark my words, Cheney will run. And I hope he does. After the ruinous Bush presidency, I would like nothing more than to watch Dick Cheney try to run for president. Imagine candidate Cheney trying to explain his "last throes" comment in a debate?

[maxsolomon]

17. cheney is beatable

but only if the dems actually fight this time. if he's the nominee, it will be decided before the first GOP primaries.

the dems must attack first, and frequently. they must have both barrels loaded before he announces his candidacy, and commence firing the second his press conference ends.

but my gut says: his health is a liability, and the GOP wants someone prettier.

[sendero]

18. Cheney...

... will be lucky to live 'til 2008, much less run. I don't believe this for a second, Cheney isn't really popular with anyone, even Republicans.

[lady lib]

40. Agreed.

That ticker of Cheney's is living on borrowed time and he has way too much Halliburton baggage. I'm just not seeing this one - at all.

[Kelvin Mace]

19. Bob Woodward is smoking crack

[endarkenment]

24. nah, he's sniffing crack. very different. no drugs involved. eom.

[Kelvin Mace]

25. LOL!

Sniffing? He's deployed tonsil-deep.

[napi21]

20. Woodward was ONCE a great reporter, but he's gone nuts!

There's no way Cheney is going to be the Pub candidate! His pollo numbers have been in the pitts for years, I don't think even his heart device would be able to carry him through the rigors of a national campaign, he's got a gay daughter that he sort of supports, his links to Halliburton would kill his chances.

I guess Woodward is looking for some new publicity to keem his name in the media, but this one is just dumb.

[davidinalameda]

21. someone's smoking some quality crack

[Mojambo]

22. I think Cheney is the only guy Senator Clinton beats n/t

[fishwax]

50. That's exactly what I was thinking (n/t)

[okieinpain]

26. woodward has lost his freakin mind. even the repugs aren't that

stupid. hell hillary would beat him with one hand behind her back.

[Mammoth]

54. hear hear. If Woodward predicted that the sun was coming up tomorrow...

...I'd start preparing for perpetual midnight.

He got facts in the introductory paragraphs to one of his Post stories wrong: incorrectly attributing the command ordering all commercial airplanes down to transportation secretary Norm Mineta instead of an FAA official, which was widely known at the time.
That in and of itself may not be so bad, but the problem is that in the face of overwhelming opinion that's he was wrong, he refused to concede that his story may be inaccurate.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2063935/
'refusing to admit a mistake.' Woodward's been hanging around his fave subject, W, waaay too much.
He ain't fit to carry Bernstein's jock.

[NaturalHigh]

27. I predict a snowstorm here in Oklahoma tonight.

If I wake up in the middle of the night to see white stuff falling, Woodward MIGHT be right.

[BootinUp]

28. No way......what are you smokin Bob? n/t

[Dover]

29. If true......that seems PROOF that the voting is rigged.

Not that Bush's election was any less an indicator of that fact.

[KamaAina]

30. Mr. Woodward? This is the operator. Your 15 minutes of fame are up.

Please deposit some meaningful thoughts or writing, or your call will be disconnected...

[Karla Marx]

31. I thought Big Time "Go F Yourself" Dick already was president...

...cuz Chimpy sure ain't.

[Captain Hilts]

32. Insane. Cheney hates campaigns. His health is lousy.

It's just not going to happen.

Woodward's crazy.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

33. He gets paid for this BS and is using it as a PR hype to extort

more money from a gullible public for insipid “analysis.” This guy is a neo con corporate media plant used to disseminate misinformation.

[Peace Patriot]

34. Bob Woodward has been hanging around Bush too much. It has

dimmed his vision.

[barb162]

35. Not with his heart problems, he wont do it

[henslee]

73. It would be hard for voters to ignore his ill health.

[Miss Chybil]

36. We can only hope.

Hillary can knock him out with one hand tied behind her back. Oh wait, she does have one hand tied behind her back. She's a she!

[chelsea0011]

37. Cheney? He could never take the stress of a Presidential run.

He will run though, and then drop out for "medical reasons" when his numbers tank. McCain will probably give it a go again.

[David Zephyr]

38. I've said it for years now here, Cheney will run & with the Bush Blessing.

Well, I now feel somewhat finally vindicated. Or at least I don't feel so lonesome in my belief that Cheney plans to run in 2008.


There are many here at the DU who know that I have long believed that Dick Cheney, in spite of the many public protestations to the contrary by him and his wife, will indeed actively seek out the GOP nomination in 2008.

George W. Bush will be impartial, but old man Bush, will be the one to say something along the lines of "Well, there's not a man finer on earth than John McCain and I have the greatest respect for all the GOP candidates, but speaking for just me and Barbara, we are hoping that it will be Dick."

Cheney will run.

[Joe Chi Minh]

39. I think it's Hilary he's really pushing.

Anyone but New Deal Kerry.... and worse, he's a Rotweiller of a public prosecutor.

[VegasWolf]

41. Not surprised in the least. For the last 8 years Cheney has had all

the power, now he wants all the glory too!

[William Bloode]

42. I hope so!

Cheney is the perfect candidate. His snarly old puss just screams evil, and most Americans have a bad view of him. I don't think they have enough elbow grease to polish this turd.

[Mammoth]

43. What about the old theory...

...that Cheney was going to resign for "health reasons" like in mid to late 2006, and whatever puppet the PNAC/Neocons have picked next was going to be inserted as the next VP, thus gaining the public visage to rise as the next a(R)se-hole candidate for president.

Anyway, isn't Cheney tired of being president? He's been at it de facto for five years already...

[4_Legs_Good]

44. God save us all

Old Man and the "She".

Gawd that's awful.

I can't imagine a showdown I'd likely be less interested in.

Well, I guess I can.

david

[donheld]

46. I shudder

I'd vote for Chelsea or sox before i'd even dream of voting for Satan/Cheney.

[Sanity Claws]

47. Don't hire him as a psychic

My tea leaves tell me no way. In fact, my tea leaves tell me that Cheney won't even be able to show his face in a year or two.

[Akoto]

51. Cheney can't run for president! Why, you ask?

Because he's already served for two terms. :evilgrin:

[Jackpine Radical]

80. Shoulda bin 2 terms in Leavenworth.

[fishwax]

52. Cheney may sound absurd, but the GOP doesn't have anyone better

That was one of the few threads of silver lining in the dark cloud of last fall's elections. The growing fissure (held together only by duct tape) between the religious fascist wing and the old-school libertarian conservative wing of the repub party was all the more exploitable because of the fact that the party had no obvious successors waiting in the wings (as they did with poppy bush after the reagan years). DeLay's a long shot b/c he's so divisive, Frist is out b/c he's a bore, Jeb is hampered by general public antipathy toward dynasty (as well as his first name--only in the mind of Aaron Sorkin will we have a president named Jeb or Jed)--anyway, the list goes on.

So Cheney may have health problems (and is, as we well know, a lunatic), but who better have they got? At least with Cheney they can argue for continuity.

That said, I'd love to see Cheney get the nod, as anybody this side of Lieberman could beat him.

[Robeson]

53. Oh, Canada! Is there room for me up there?

[The Sushi Bandit]

55. Woodward Dumps in his Sleep

and out comes this prediction!

[AndyTiedye]

56. Ewwww!! Yuck!

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[flaminbats]

57. he must enjoy making millions by acting like a fool..

if asked in 1973 who the nominees in 1976 would be, he probably would have predicted Spiro T. Agnew vs. Ted Kennedy.

[robertarctor]

58. Bob Woodward gets his talking points straight from Karl Rove.

This is the dream matchup for the PNAC neo-feudalists. Not gonna happen.

[Gman]

59. I find this very strange:

"...and said history would judge Bush's decision to go to war, and it's still unclear what it will say."

This is a "no shit, Sherlock."

[SillyGoose]

60. Oh. My. God.

I hope with every fiber of my being that this is bullshit.

:scared:

[AzDar]

61. Mr. Woodward.....step AWAY from the crackpipe!!! n/t

[Jamison]

62. The question is.

Will Cheney even live that long?

[despairing optimist]

63. Is Woodward doing WaPo's astrology column now?

I thought he was dating Vampyra.

[hippiechick]

64. WTF is HE smoking ?

:wtf: ???

[depakid]

65. Oh, and Bob Woodward has SO much credibility

After that embarrassment of a "book" called Bush at War, the mans a total laughingstock!

Bob, take some advice and go back into hiding... or wherever it is you've been. No one takes you seriously anymore...

[liberalcanuck]

67. What udder and complete bullshit - both candidates are almost

equally unattractive IMO. Cheney and Hillary are a late night host's dream.

Woodward must be smoking some of that good crank that's going around these days.

[Boo Boo]

68. Thanks Bob, I needed a good laugh. /nt

[LeftyMom]

69. NO way they'll run Cheney, he'd have to appear in sunlight.

Really though, he hasn't reacted well whenever the media pays any attention to him or his family so even if his health was up to it I don't think he'd run.

The fact that no clear sucessor-puppet is apparent suggests to me he plans to return to the private sector in 2009.

[Kittycat]

72. I don't know - with the proper staging...

They could set it up in a studio with actors, and bring in some robotic chucky dolls for him to kiss. Afterwards, they can all don their fangs and partcipate in a live sacrifice.

[shadowknows69]

70. I'd like to publicly beg now

for either canada or new zealand to adopt me.

[ngGale]

71. Ugh ...

no way!

[Occulus]

74. The last I knew, Cheney had a 15% popularity rating as vice

I hope ho DOES run. Can we say, LANDSLIDE AGAINST?

NO chance he can win. None. A ham sandwich could beat him, without campaigning.

[RSchewe]

75. I hope he runs. The way this mess is going it will probably help n/t

[shadowknows69]

76. If they run Cheney

then they know the fix is in on the voting tabulation. If they run Cheney its next level time because we can't win the conventional way from that moment on.

[Spider Jerusalem]

77. Cheney, with his dicey ticker?

Doubt he could take the stress of campaigning. They'd have to have a physician on hand at all times to shoot him up with digitalis and defibrillate as necessary. Hell, he'd probably keel over halfway through. Woodward has apparently gone mad.

[Gloria]

78. Oh, kill me now....funny, my very astute friend keeps saying she

fears a Cheney run....

[mikita]

79. really Bob, who gives a flying shit /nt