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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:57 AM
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Santorum bashes liberals in speech (again)
How anyone could vote for this jackass is beyond me. He does provide a continuous stream of entertaining crap. What a guy!

Liberals see "France, Holland or Sweden" as their model for America, U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum told supporters yesterday at the conservative think tank that published his book, "It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good."

Santorum's thoughts on liberals and culture wars, and his exchange with a working mother questioning his belief in stay-at-home moms were among the highlights of his appearance at the headquarters of the Intercollegiate Studies Institute outside Wilmington.

It wasn't an occasion for vegetarians.

Lunch was a pig barbecued whole, with portions cut from his sides while his head and tail lay at opposite ends of an open grille. After the picnic, Santorum spoke, answered questions and signed books.

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/12354316.htm
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:01 AM
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1. Let's take on the basic hypocrisy in just this excerpt...
Liberals see "France, Holland or Sweden" as their model for America, U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum told supporters yesterday.... Santorum's thoughts on liberals and culture wars, and his exchange with a working mother questioning his belief in stay-at-home moms....

OK, lemme get this straight. Santorum believes that a mother should stay at home with her kids, yet he supports policies that essentially bankrupt working families unless the mother enters the work force.

Let's contrast that with Sweden, where EVERY WORKING MOTHER is guaranteed one year maternity leave with full pay.

It seems to me that these horrible "liberal" states in Europe do a helluva better job of promoting "family" than these asshat 13th-century reactionaries like Sanctimonium.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:27 AM
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16. having lived in Sweden for a year I am still
in awe of their standard of living, support of the arts, openmindedness, and educational system. I barely saw anything I DISLIKED...and I was an 18 year old conservative at the time!

We could learn a lesson or two from them...without copying the entire system.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:26 PM
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21. Krugman recently published this nice column...
Americans tend to believe that we do everything better than anyone else. That belief makes it hard for us to learn from others. For example, I've found that many people refuse to believe that Europe has anything to teach us about health care policy. After all, they say, how can Europeans be good at health care when their economies are such failures?

Now, there's no reason a country can't have both an excellent health care system and a troubled economy (or vice versa). But are European economies really doing that badly?

The answer is no. Americans are doing a lot of strutting these days, but a head-to-head comparison between the economies of the United States and Europe - France, in particular - shows that the big difference is in priorities, not performance. We're talking about two highly productive societies that have made a different tradeoff between work and family time. And there's a lot to be said for the French choice.

First things first: given all the bad-mouthing the French receive, you may be surprised that I describe their society as "productive." Yet according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, productivity in France - G.D.P. per hour worked - is actually a bit higher than in the United States. It's true that France's G.D.P. per person is well below that of the United States. But that's because French workers spend more time with their families.

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/072905.html


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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:01 AM
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2. Oh my goodness - check and see if Rove is missing!
"It wasn't an occasion for vegetarians.

Lunch was a pig barbecued whole, with portions cut from his sides while his head and tail lay at opposite ends of an open grille. After the picnic, Santorum spoke, answered questions and signed books".

Hoo boy. Sure hope Rick Sanitarium didn't eat the brain of his party by mistake..............

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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:02 AM
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3. She wanted him to see her as a successful working mother of 4...
...but my guess is it was lost when entered into his worldview. Let me guess: she does all the cleaning, cooking, etc and works a job...

Wonder what her husband does when he comes home from work.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:02 AM
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4. Interesting...
He must gave spoken before dinner?:hippie:
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:03 AM
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5. France, Holland and Sweden???
Those hellholes? No.:eyes: Not France, Holland and Sweden!!
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:03 AM
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6. He is so INSANE ...
Does anyone take him seriously? I can't imagine traditionally "conservative" voters being comfortable with him (?) ----- the religiously insane, YES; anyone else????
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:03 AM
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7. The horror!
"Liberals see "France, Holland or Sweden" as their model for America"

Conservatives, on the other hand, see the Taliban as a suitable model for 21st century America.

Those three countries are always above the the US on quality of life indexes, health care etc. God forbid anyone should try to copy what they do.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:53 AM
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17. Conservatives see the Taliban as a suitable model
Conservatives, on the other hand, see the Taliban as a suitable model for 21st century America.

LOL
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:38 PM
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23. And Sweden hasn't been in a war since the 18th century...
...if I recall correctly. The Swedes are truly blessed not to have equivalent of Commander Cuckoo Bananas.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:04 AM
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8. Fuck you, you stinky pile of poop!
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:06 AM
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9. When someone like Santorum bashes liberals they're rehabilitating the word
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 11:08 AM by Gonnabuymeagun
as far as I'm concerned

On edit: I prefer modern France Holland and Sweden to whatever backwards era Santorum prefers.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:06 AM
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10. They barbecued Sancto-rectum whole?!?
How rude! Lucky his head wasn't carved up so he could answer questions.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:08 AM
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11. Pretty funny that slash-and-burn Ricky would invoke de Tocqueville
Also funny, his description of the liberal view of freedom ("freedom from all restrictions, restraints, a freedom to do whatever I want to do, what I call 'no-fault freedom,' in a society where we have no ties that bind, no commitment to our neighbors") sounds very much like a pro-business, ownership society Republican.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:11 AM
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13. Exactly
That describes libertarianism, not liberalism.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:08 AM
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12. Way too many column inches...
are dedicated to that fucking psycho.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:19 AM
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14. Ugh! I can't stand this guy.
:puke:
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:24 AM
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15. Come on Rick, can't you think of a new spiel?
The liberal=French comparison is so 2004, and is getting stale. I honestly think this and the dissent=treason argument is wearing thin with the American people.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:00 PM
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18. hold it, he 's a US senator
and the best outfit he could find to publish his book is the Intercollegiate Studies Institute? how...pathetic.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:00 PM
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19. Guess what Tricky Ricky sees as his model for America
Liberals see "France, Holland or Sweden" as their model for America, U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum told supporters yesterday at the conservative think tank that published his book, "It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good."


Tricky Ricky sees the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, and Iran as the model for America, only with Christian fundamentalism codified in the law.
:mad::grr:
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:19 PM
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20. How fitting
Pigs eating a pig. Would this be considered a case of cannibalism?

The man's living in a parallel universe. Fucking loon.

:crazy:
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:32 PM
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22. What "liberals"?
LOL!

Apart from the old guard, there's nary a senior Democratic leader who professes liberalism.

How many members in the House progressive caucus? Take that number and add maybe half a dozen from the Senate, and you have the sum of the remnants of liberalism in Washington.
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