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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:06 PM
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Granny going to Iraq - At 60, she'll 'get message out about good things'
Granny going to Iraq
At 60, she'll 'get message out about good things'
By William Croyle
Enquirer staff writer

ALEXANDRIA - When Suzanne Fournier tells people where she's going, the 60-year-old wife, mother and grandmother always gets the same reaction: disbelief.

"They say, 'You're doing what?' " Fournier said.

"Yes, I'd be crazy if I wasn't a little apprehensive, but I'm comfortable with it. I want to help those who need help."

Fournier will depart for Iraq on Aug. 28.

...

She's especially eager to work with the Iraqi media so it can tell information to civilians.

"There was so much devastation when we got there," she said. "Not so much from the war, but from neglect for so many years. But it's just mind-boggling to see what's in place now."

(more)

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050815/NEWS0103/508150332


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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:10 PM
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1. She's SIXTY???
Well, she looks pretty damn good. She seems pretty damn naive to me though. I think she's in for an education!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:48 PM
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22. If she leaves the Green Zone she will be kidnapped.
And then. . . .
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:20 PM
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25. took the words out of my mouth...
yeah, she'll report on all the good the military is doing for all the rich and privileged in the green zone.

Tell her to walk 2 miles outside the zone to Sadr city. She wants to see what is going on, go there, but somehow I just don't think she wants to see "ugly" stuff.

I hope her little trip washes the shit out her eyes.

colossal failure*
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:42 PM
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30. Hey, Sixty is the new Forty! :)
n/t
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:06 PM
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43. Peter Jennings was 67 when he died, and he went to Iraq.
This means that he could not have been any less old than 65.
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:10 PM
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2. Kool-aid and Metamucil. Mm-mm good!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:11 PM
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3. Boy, is she in for a surprise!
She's obviously a brainwashed bush-bot.

Going to Iraq to seek out the good things happening there. That's whacky! Get her medicated quickly.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:12 PM
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4. Another snuff film in the making, I'm afraid
There used to be a soda shop in Hollywood where movie-star wannabes would hang out in hopes of being discovered. If this granny hangs out on a Sadr City streetcorner, she'll be discovered all right, and I don't want to know what will happen next.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:13 PM
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5. Let's hope she doesn't get her
damn head blown off before she can come up with some fucking "good things" about Iraq.

Geesh, some people's brainwashing is just COMPLETE!
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:08 PM
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44. I was thinking, "I hope she doesn't get her head CUT off."
And I hope none of our troops get assigned the duty to protect her. They've got enough on their minds without having to prop up a propagandist.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:14 PM
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6. We never heard back from the "Truth Tour"
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:18 PM by Barrett808
Wonder if Mrs. Fournier will be similarly silent after experiencing the horrifying reality of Iraq.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:19 PM
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9. I don't think she'll have very big smile on her face after she put her
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:24 PM by Rainscents
foot in Iraq. I give her credit for doing this, however, she is in for rude awakening!
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:21 PM
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11. What DID happen to the Truth Tour?
I saw them at the bbq in Tampa, then pffftt!!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:34 PM
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16. Good question. That one went down the memory hole
Either they didn't go, or they went and they don't want to talk about it

:rofl:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:36 PM
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19. I read here at DU that they broadcast for one day from a tent...
...in the Green Zone. Then left, I guess.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:50 PM
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23. They stayed in the Green Zone and talked to the soldiers
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:57 PM by tblue37
that were selected for them to talk to (like the way Bush talks to preselected groups). Then they came home and bragged about how wonderful it all was.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:14 PM
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24. Do we have any links on this?
I haven't seen anything.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:32 PM
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28. James Wolcott blogged about it shortly after they
returned. That entry is probably archived by now, so if you can't find it, email him and ask about it.

Here is his blog URL
http://jameswolcott.com
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:00 PM
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36. Is this the Wolcott post you were thinking of?
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 09:05 PM by Barrett808
For months the Couch Potato Pattons have been telling us loud and clear that despite all the gloom-mongering, the US was doing better in Iraq than the loathed MSM was letting Americans know (Rich Lowry even was bold enough to issue a proclamation on the cover of the National Review cover story claiming, "We're Winning"), that there was a wealth of good news that was being deliberately unreported, and that our soldiers knew the real story, saw truer and deeper into what was happening than those elite editors in NY and DC vegetating behind their computer screens. Michael Graham, a rightwing radio host who has just returned with his fellow full mooners from the "Truth Tour" of Iraq, brought home the gospel he had heard in that troubled land to the readers of National Review Online.

"Again and again, from 'white-collar' soldiers working in the relative safety of Camp Victory at the Baghdad airport to the "real" soldiers patrolling Route Irish (a.k.a the 'Highway of Death'), I heard that America and their Iraqi-army allies are winning the war against the insurgents. I was told again and again by the soldiers themselves that their (our) cause is just, the strategy is working, and the enemy they fight represents evil itself.

"In other words, I heard things seldom heard on CBS or read in the pages of the New York Times."

The Sunday pages of The New York Times must have brought Michael Graham only further confirmation that what he heard over there is the plain truth and what he reads over here is fancy hogwash. Denying the enveloping disaster in Iraq is how he maintains his membership in the marching band of useful idiots.

(more)

http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2005/07/sunday_bloody_s.php


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:09 AM
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51. Not much bragging, pretty subdued.
I think they were pretty shaken up by the whole thing.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:15 PM
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7. Yes, Suzanne! You and your guest
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:16 PM by longship
will be vacationing for two sun-filled weeks in beautiful Darfur. Enjoy the beach. Get a tan. Get blown up.

on edit: Or, do you want what's behind Door #3?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:16 PM
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8. Good luck Granny!
Take a good stroll around outside the Green Zone, get a good look at all the progress and good news there is to see.

Just make sure your will is up to date.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:20 PM
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10. I wanna see Granny shopping outside the Green Zone.
If she truly wants to help the media, she will have to be able to walk the streets, talk to the peoples, throughout Iraq.

Granny will come home and tell one and all just how lovely all is in Iraq......what a bunch of crap.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:31 PM
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13. Well, good luck to her.
May she stay safe.

I don't think she'll find what she expects if she truly gets into the heart of Iraq, but hey...to each his (or her) own.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:32 PM
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14. Not so much from the war?
I guess this lady thinks buildings blow themselves up on a regular basis.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:33 PM
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15. Can't wait to hear from her when/if she gets back
It should be very interesting to see and hear what she has to say, assuming she doesn't just stay in the Green Zone
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:34 PM
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17. Does she know how beautiful Iraq was BEFORE Desert Storm?
The devastation was devastation caused by 12 years of sanctions and carpet bombings during Desert Storm.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:35 PM
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18. And why shouldn't the U.S. rebuild Iraq's schools, hosptials, roads, etc?
They're the one who blew them up. And how much of the action are contractors getting verus the Corps of Engineers?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:37 PM
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20. Devastation "Not so much from the war" -- nice denial
She'll probably lose that in a hurry.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:28 PM
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26. Another shill for * -- "Saddam devastated Iraq".... nice try...
...how about Shock and Awe?

Oh yeah... that was just a fireworks show. No civilians killed and we only hit Saddam's palace. Or so my mom says.

Sheesh.

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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:46 PM
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21. Are they planting all of these stories
a la "Wag the Dog?"
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:30 PM
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27. I hope she can afford the 10,000 shuttle fee from Baghdad Intl to the
Green Zone.

Otherwise it's chunks of granny on the highway via IED
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:43 PM
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31. I heard it was $30,000 for the cab ride
things must be getting BETTER, its down to $10,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:35 PM
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29. She ain't crazy, she's fuckin' stupid.
She really thinks that she's going to help shape perceptions of how people will perceive the U.S., which is nothing less than an occupation. She's a woman and her gender by default will be put off by a male-dominated society. Apparently this never crossed her mind and at her age that's no excuse for being a freakin' idiot.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:47 PM
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32. she's not a granny, she's a PR professional
with a penchant for keeping information from the public...

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Pcci7dtbzogJ:www.govtech.net/magazine/story.php%3Fid%3D13175%26reprint%3D1+%22Suzanne+Fournier%22++army+%22public+relations%22&hl=en

Such instructions have so far resulted in the closing of information about bridges and dams, the location of water mains and aerial photographs of government facilities. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers took down information about locks and dams on the Ohio River. Corps spokesman Suzanne Fournier told the Cincinnati Enquirer, "We did that to protect the American public."


http://www.nben.ca/egroups/groupnews/groupnews_archives/03/incineration.htm

The JACADS incineration experience has demonstrated that accidental releases of
live chemical warfare agents into the environment can be expected with this
technology. On March 2, 1995, a "small" amount of nerve agent was detected outside of the
JACADS facility. This is the third publicly known release of lethal warfare agent at the facility.
Chemical and Biological Defense Agency spokeswoman Suzanne Fournier responded to this
release by saying, "There is such a (small) trace that quite frankly I have problems with this
information getting out ."11
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:40 PM
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46. Good find.
She really is a good little brownshirt, isn't she?

I find it very suspicious that a spokeswoman for the Chemical and Biological Defense Agency is taking a trip to Iraq to do PR work.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:48 PM
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48. Good find, indeed n/t
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:53 PM
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33. Stay out of Prison over there..I here there not the place to be...
just saying
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:55 PM
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34. my email to this reporter
Dear Willam,

Your article on Suzanne Fournier makes it sound like this is a personal project of hers.

Since Fournier is a public relations professional for the Army, it sounds like it's more likely she's going in an offical capacity, in a public relations role for the Army.

Nothing wrong with that, if it's so, but an article about her mission should make that clear. Your readers would be paying for her trip, and Fournier would be working on our behalf (in theory).

Thank you,
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:23 AM
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53. Nice, thanks for putting all that together. n/t
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:55 PM
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35. Granny Feelgood's Good Things About Iraq:
1) No electricity and no water = reduced utility bills for the Iraqi consumer.

:thumbsup:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:03 PM
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37. Good things ARE happening...
for Halliburton.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:05 PM
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38. So she's an employee of the Army out to catapault the propaganda.
Got it.
:eyes: :grr:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:49 PM
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39. She hasn't been there but she knows the following:
"There was so much devastation when we got there," she said. "Not so much from the war, but from neglect for so many years. But it's just mind-boggling to see what's in place now."

What a twit. She'll have her eyes opened wide.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:57 PM
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40. That's my question, too. How do these republi-bots "know"...
... there are "good things" happening over there? I've posed that question to several 'pukes, who admitted they had no relatives -- military or civilian -- in Iraq or anywhere else in the Mideast, no acquaintances, not even friends-of-friends.

Naturally, I got no answer to my question. Your never do, when confronting these brainwashed idiots with logic and facts.

But nevertheless, they all "know" that the "good news" is not being reported... by the "liberal media," of course.

These people have set a new standard for stupidity -- willful, proud, loud-mouthed, cross-eyed-and-frothing ignorance. It would be funny if they weren't being let out of the house with no adult supervision. :crazy:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:59 PM
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41. Granny Get Your Gun!
A new musical coming to your local dinner theater....
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:04 PM
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42. Granny works for US Army Corps of
Engineers, she is now on propaganda detail.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:28 PM
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45. two things
a. devastation NOT FROM THE WAR? oh, okay, cluster bombs are just nice toys for children

b. this poor old goose that just lay the PR golden egg would do well to remember Margaret Hassan, who was actually educated, informed, and spent all of her life helping the Iraqi people and was kidnapped and executed for her troubles.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:06 PM
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47. If she works for the army, it is no wonder she denies war caused damage
The propaganda efforts get more desperate every day. Support for the war in polls (the government polls that don't get released) must be scraping bottom.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:59 PM
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49. That is a silly woman...
I hope she doesn't get killed for dissolousionment...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:08 AM
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50. They will have her head cut off in 5 minutes
and "we don't care".
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:11 AM
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52. I'd be DAMNED if I would go an inch out of my way to prop up the
Bush regime.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:11 AM
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54. Well, it's her job
Professional propagandist.
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