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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:22 AM
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Paraguayans Protest Against Rumsfeld
Paraguayans Protest Against Rumsfeld

Asuncion, Aug 17 (Prensa Latina) A hundred people from different civil organizations Wednesday criticized the visit of US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, described as secretive by the local press.

The demonstration against Rumsfeld took place at Panteón Nacional de los Héroes, where the visitor and the US Ambassador to Asuncion John F. Keane, laid a wreath.

After his arrival on Tuesday, Rumsfeld met with Paraguayan President Nicanor Duarte, in the presidential residence Mburuvicha Roga.

Although the agenda has not been made public, the recent deployment of American soldiers in Paraguay will be discussed.

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID={AD6A656A-BC3D-42AE-BFA7-779380F97B08}&language=EN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:45 AM
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1. NOT good, not good news at all...
The empire continues to hegemonic grasping...

I am willing to bet any takers that 99% of the American
population is completely unaware about what is developing
there and why.

BHN
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:04 AM
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4. I've read several articles about US troops in Paraguay...
and I'll be damned if I can figure out what they are doing there. There aren't any good natural resources to steal, at least not in a quantity to make it worth the effort. My only guess is they want to use the area as a staging ground should action against the socialists become necessary. Even that's a flimsy justification. Lula's not that toast of Brasilia at the moment and Chavez is too far away. Ecuador is getting a little snotty over IMF usury; but Bush's close ties with kindred spirit Alvaro Uribe would make Columbia the natural choice. I'm baffled, but thats nothing new.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:25 AM
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10. Paraguay is adjacent to Bolivia's rich natural gas fields
If a leftist like Evo Morales were to win the upcoming election, the US will stage a Katanga style operation, and do to Morales what the CIA did to Patrice Lumumba in the Congo.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:41 PM
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17. Read this thread- Post number 5 in particular
This is SOOOOO creepy.
It's not just about the natural gas in bolivia and
the oil in Venezuela- it is also about WATER and
drug trafficing- tie all of it together with what
Sibel Edmunds has been alluding to thru her
"gag order" and it is VERY CREEPY indeed.
BHN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4386949
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:09 AM
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2. Rumsfeld Meets With Paraguay President
Rumsfeld Meets With Paraguay President

Wednesday August 17, 2005 8:01 AM


By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer

ASUNCION, Paraguay (AP) - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld wants Western Hemisphere countries to cooperate with one another to stem ``anti-social, destabilizing behavior'' like corruption, gangs and drug trafficking.

``The kinds of problems that the hemisphere faces are problems that don't lend themselves to single-nation solutions,'' the Pentagon chief said while embarking on a three-day Latin American trip.
(snip)

``There are countries like Paraguay and others, their neighboring countries, they're all interested in being able to grow and function in a manner that's free of external influence and to do things in ways that fit their history and their circumstance,'' Rumsfeld said Tuesday.

A country considered friendly with the United States and wary of Castro and Chavez, Paraguay shares its northwestern border with Bolivia. That country has been headed by an interim president since the June ouster of President Carlos Mesa and his U.S.-backed government after just 19 months in power.
(snip/...)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5215574,00.html





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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:08 AM
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3. I truly feel Rumsfeld has a case of senility....
he states countries should be "free of external influence" yet represents an administration trying to influence the world.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:21 AM
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5. more $$ going out again!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:55 AM
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12. War drums are a beating this is very interesting
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:22 PM
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14. When it should go to
helping the people that live in the U.S.

I am so sick of this!:banghead:

And they do it on the sly!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:34 AM
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11. What Rumsfeld really means here, is
"We in the State Department are concerned that many Central and South American countries are moving towards socialism and/or democratically elected leaders." "This strikes fear in our hearts, because for the longest time, we have ruled over these two enormous land masses and killed lots of people in the process".

"We're frankly concerned that C. and S. American countries are moving towards a unified force".
---------------------------

JL, thanks for posting the photos of Cheney and RumsFailed. It's hard to believe they once looked like that (top photo). Notice the conniving look Cheney gives Rumsfool. Then, in the photo below, the look is almost the same! (but 40 years later).

I once saw a photo of these two sitting at Gerald Ford's desk. They looked so mischievious, like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. They gave each other sly looks. God, why didn't we exterminate these two cockroaches when we had the chance?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:17 PM
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13. That Cheney face should make everyone suspicious of him.
Who on earth would want him on his team? Only criminals!

I found one photo of them at Ford's desk, knowing there are others, but they do pop up from outta nowhere from time to time. I had no idea their act went back that far before I saw these photos!




Found this snippet which tells what they did for Nixon:
The three main architects of Bush's imperial presidency gained their formative experience amid Nixon's downfall. Donald Rumsfeld, Nixon's counsellor, and his deputy, Dick Cheney, one after the other, served as chief of staff to Nixon's successor, Gerald Ford, both opposing congressional efforts for more transparency in the executive.

With perfect Nixonian pitch, Cheney remarked in 1976: "Principle is OK up to a certain point, but principle doesn't do any good if you lose." During the Iran-contrascandal Cheney, a republican leader in the House of Representatives, argued that the congressional report denouncing "secrecy, deception and disdain for the law" was an encroachment on executive authority.
(snip/...)
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:2OuoLpguZjIJ:www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1502532,00.html+Cheney+%2B+Nixon&hl=en

Criminals? Monsters? Typical Republicans!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:58 PM
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16. Wow, JudyL. that's great.
Notice, AGAIN, (in the photo above) they're looking at each other. NOT president Ford. See the sly, mischievious look?

The photo of the Dynamic Duo sitting at Ford's desk is even more telling. It's a black & white photo. I'll see if I can find it. This stuff speaks volumes.

It might take me a while, but it's here somewhere on one of these threads. Thanks.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:27 AM
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6. so, our troops have already been deployed in Paragrary. um...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:38 AM
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7. Bolivia is rich in natural gas, which we need for winter
and the leader of the indigenous and peasant Movimiento al Socialism (MAS), Evo Morales, is running for President, much to the chagrin of Condi Rice, who had threatened Morales when he first ran for President 3 years ago.


Prominent Bolivian Intellectual Elected MAS Vice President Candidate

La Paz, Aug 17 (Prensa Latina) Sure of victory in the next elections, the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) has elected prominent white urban intellectual and social activist Alvaro Garcia Linera as the party´s candidate for the post of vice president.

During a meeting, MAS´ leader Evo Morales praised the former urban guerrilla and local TV commentator´s contribution, and announced a draft plan for an electoral triumph.

Morales said the election of a candidate like Garcia Linera invigorates the largely indigenous party and provides an effective formula for victory, unity and diversity. It shows that professional and other middle-class sectors also support the MAS, he added.

Meanwhile, Garcia Linera said he appreciated MAS´ broad social base that made it possible for him to join, as a comrade and brother, the struggle to build a new country.

The candidate for the vice presidency was particularly applauded when he said he was sure that Bolivia will elect the first indigenous president in South American history, and condemned discrimination against Indians either for the color of their skin or their clothes.

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID={6E5BA272-EFAF-44CE-B562-994D1899316E}&language=EN


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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:04 AM
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8. "free of external influence"
Wasn't that the phrase used to support all Latin American dictators, with "outside (Communist/Socialist) agitators" as the enemy?

This is a wink-wink visit signalling U.S. blind-eye support of RW para- and not-so-para-military "crackdowns" on the burgeoning people's movements in this region. Another excuse now for murdering union organizers/farmers/peasants/laborers/leftists will be "in defense of CAFTA and free and democratic trade".

Next topic: Los desaparecidos, ca. 2006.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:13 AM
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9. I hope Latin America's memory is crystal clear, and that they mean
to keep it from happening again to them.

Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush saw Latin America as their own property, and spared no effort to stomp out dissent in the entire realm, at the vast expense of human life, all accomplished covertly. U.S. taxpayers are only starting to learn what the hell has happened in the last few years.

This Bush shouldn't be allowed to repeat their crimes.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:06 PM
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15. Failure in Iraq OIL brings evil to Paraguay and beyond.
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