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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:10 AM
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WP: New Job-Hunting Sites Might Be Monster Killers (links)
New Job-Hunting Sites Might Be Monster Killers
By Leslie Walker
Thursday, August 18, 2005; Page D01


Monster.com may grow up to be a dinosaur. That was my first thought upon seeing a new breed of online job sites shaking up the recruitment industry.

Simply Hired and Indeed, upstarts less than a year old, are getting attention for their Google-like approach to helping people find jobs. They do for job listings what Google does for general information -- crawl or "scrape" listings from thousands of sites and create a free, searchable index in one spot.

The key difference between these sites and leading job boards Monster and CareerBuilder is that employers don't pay to be listed. Simply Hired and Indeed base their results on a crawling of the Web and mathematical formulas that attempt to judge the relevance of each job opening to a user's query, much as regular search results are presented on Google. As a result, Indeed ( http://www.indeed.com/ ) and Simply Hired ( http://www.simplyhired.com/ ) offer many more listings than Monster or CareerBuilder -- including some found at those sites, at specialty recruiting services and the sites of individual employers.

Indeed is even developing a pay-per-click advertising model that mimics Google's, including an online auction in which employers and other companies will bid to have their ads displayed alongside regular search results. In most cases, the paid ads will link back to listings on an employer's site. Simply Hired wouldn't say exactly how it plans to make money, except that it will use some form of pay-per-qualified lead and pay-per-hire model.

"By and large, employers will foot the bill," said Simply Hired chief executive Gautam Godhwani. "Over time, we are going to be able to bring a targeted job seeker over to your Web site or send them to a listing you have anywhere on the Web."...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/17/AR2005081702021.html
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:15 AM
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1. Thanks n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:24 AM
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2. "Simply Hired wouldn't say exactly how it plans to make money..."
Is there any industry other than IT where you can get away with a business plan like this?

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:28 AM
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3. Self-delete. How'd I end up posting in LBN??
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 09:33 AM by IanDB1
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:32 AM
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4. Someone wants to get bought by Google.
How long before this becomes Google Jobs? (No relation to Steve Jobs, I hope.)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:33 AM
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5. Thank gawd. Monsterboard is evil for so many reasons. For example...
1) They disguise military recruitment ads as "job postings."

2) They disguise "Business Opportunity" ads as "job postings."

And it's done with the full knowledge and consent of Monster.com

I complained about the Navy recruitment ads, saying, "These ads are fraudulent because they fail to disclose important requirements for the job. For example, a required 4-year minimum contract, and the possibility that you may be required to kill people."
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:39 AM
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6. that's pretty good stuff, thanks for the heads up
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:16 AM
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7. Wow, thanks
This has re-energized my job hunt!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:18 PM
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9. Great, ocean girl -- good luck to you! nt
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:17 PM
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8. Thanks
Timely for me - I may be job hunting be next week.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:39 PM
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10. Thanks DeepModem Mom...
Monster and CareerBuilder are really pissing me off. Sometimes I think those job sites make it so easy for employers that they get lazy as hell. I got a call back on my resume yesterday and I swear this bozo had just printed a list of resumes that contained general keywords. The guy hadn't even looked at it -- he asked me who my last employer was, what kind of product I worked on...all of which is in the top half of my resume. Argh.

Timely info for me, too, though...trying to get unstuck from defense contracting. ;)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:40 PM
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11. Best of luck, CGV! nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:17 PM
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12. Kicking this for others who might find these sites useful ---
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:37 PM
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13. kick
TYY:kick:
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:45 PM
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14. I discovered Indeed.com 2 weeks ago and have been using it to
search for a new job. It's awesome.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:07 AM
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15. Thanks for reporting, neverforget. nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:46 AM
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16. Just noticed this article is WP's top e-mailed - must be a lot of folks...
looking for jobs.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:22 AM
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17. fun stuff
I've been playing around with these links for half an hour and even though I'm not looking for work, these look to be very promising.

Even freelancers and those looking for p-t work can find something here.

A big thanks for posting this, deepmodem mom.


Cher
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:55 AM
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18. You're welcome, NJCher! nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:09 AM
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19. monster is worthless (at least to me)
and I've been using it on and off for 4 years...NEVER got a nibble
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:39 PM
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20. kick kick
TYY:kick:
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