LAT: Radical Islam an Issue in (California) Prisons

[DeepModem Mom]

Radical Islam an Issue in Prisons
The arrest of 3 men in an alleged terror plot has put the focus on religious instruction given to inmates in the state corrections system.

By Solomon Moore, Times Staff Writer


Islamic extremism is a potential danger in California's state prisons, but one that can be mitigated by closely monitoring inmates and carefully and consistently screening Muslim chaplains, say Muslim clerics, scholars and prison officials.

Federal investigators suspect that an Islamist prison gang, called Jamiyyat Ul Islam Is Saheeh, or Assembly of Authentic Islam, may have links to three Muslim men recently implicated in a possible plot to attack National Guard Recruitment Centers in California.

One of the suspects converted to Islam while serving time at Folsom state prison.

Federal authorities are investigating Islamic radicalism in state prisons, and California Department of Corrections officials are facing a barrage of questions about the effectiveness of their Muslim chaplaincy programs.

The Corrections Department has a policy of hiring Muslim chaplains who are endorsed by an established board of Islamic leaders to minister to inmates. But in practice, each institution has wide latitude....


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance20aug20,0,7045730.story?coll=la-home-local

[TahitiNut]

1. Will they "carefully screen" the Christian chaplains, too?

:eyes: Or is radical Christianity OK?

[BiggJawn]

2. Oooh! Can I get a job as an Athiest Chaplain?

Probably not.

[DeepModem Mom]

9. Please see post # 8. Thanks! nt

[Rose Siding]

3. Maybe if they watch closely enough, they can reduce the number of rapes

Commission hears from prison rape survivors in SF

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Mr. Parsell, now 45, and a successful software executive who lives on Long Island, was one of six victims of prison rape to relate disturbing accounts with a bipartisan panel of The National Prison Rape Elimination Commission here.
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Kendell Spruce told the commission that he was infected with H.I.V. after having been raped at knifepoint in 1991 in an Arkansas state prison. Mr. Spruce, who was convicted of forging a check to buy cocaine, said that in one nine-month period he was raped by at least 27 inmates. He was 28 years old and weighed 123 pounds.
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Chance Martin, 50, an advocate for the homeless here, told the panel that he was incarcerated for 72 hours in April 1973, when he was arrested as an 18-year-old at a party where another guest had hashish. The charges were dropped, but Mr. Martin's three days in jail nearly ruined his life.
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"Predators looking to rape someone tend to pick people without close ties or a gang affiliation," Dr. Terry A. Kupers, a psychiatrist and an expert on prison rape, said.

http://nytimes.com/2005/08/20/politics/20rape.html

Eliminating one of the causes that produce the offending effect is probably too much to hope for.

[deadparrot]

4. Concern Grows Over Prison Islam Converts

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Recent arrests have focused attention on a potential terrorism danger that federal officials have been warning about — that inmates in state prison systems are particularly susceptible to radical Islamist ideology.

But prison officials across the nation say they so far have seen more potential for recruitment than real threats.

Federal officials have arrested three men in Southern California since early July in a plot that allegedly targeted National Guard facilities, the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles and several synagogues.

Authorities said they believe the plan originated among a shadowy group known as Jamiyyat Ul Islam Is Saheeh inside California State Prison, Sacramento.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050820/ap_on_re_us/terrorism_probe_prison

[mntleo2]

5. Well Lookee Here....

Soooo, now because right wingnuts disguised as christians have spent the last 40 years demonizing the poor, which is against the words of the very prophet they worship, and the poor are the ones these wingnuts imprison in corporate-run prisons so they can be used for their slave labor, NOW the results of their facist, elitist policies are coming home to roost.

If I were in prison today, I would be full of anger and become a convert to radical Islam too....anything but dealing with a bunch of hypocrites who ignore just about everything Jesus stood for. I am sickened at that sanctimonious pompous hypocrisy myself.

Cat In Seattle <----a disgusted christian

[Yupster]

6. This book was scary

It was about a US Muslim who became a jihadi warrior, then a CIA informant.

He fought in Chechyna and Kashmir. He was seriously wounded in Chechnya and had his leg unnecessarily amputated so he'd be able to get an artificial leg and go back to fight again.

Eventually he left the terrorists because he didn't like them killing civilians.

He had an idea to set up a weapons training camp in Arizona. He told the CIA that with his contacts and reputation, every single potential terrorist in the US would go through his camp. Then we could get their names and watch them.

It was an interesting proposal but Janet Reno turned him down which I probably would have too.

Anyway, then he left our side and wrote a book.

The point is that he converted to Islam and became radicalized in a California prison.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743470591/qid=1124577530/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-8248449-4356153?v=glance&s=books

[0007]

7. Hmmm. Sounds like a one way street.

Radical Christianity ideology is O.K.?

[DeepModem Mom]

8. Can no one here at DU accept that extremist Islam...

is a clear and present danger? Extremist Christianity is having a very harmful effect on our country, and has resulted in deaths at abortion clinics, but it did not engineer 9/11 or the London Underground bombings or Madrid, etc.

Leadership in the Muslim community is gathering itself to try to prevent extremists of their own faith from using that faith to kill innocents. Christian extremists deserve scorn, but does that prevent one from seeing the danger in extremist Islam, and does it mandate that any post that addresses extremist Islam be used to bash Christianity?

[shanti]

11. what goes around, comes around

the extremist muslims probably feel that we are ruled by extremist christians (*ush). in the name of *ush, the u.s. is killing far more people than extremist muslims.

HATE SUCKS.

[DeepModem Mom]

12. You make a good point, shanti. nt

[shanti]

10. BLACK muslims

we all know where this has been heading.